No terror threat from Afghanistan, but from Pak: US

[Gandhi G in da house]

AFAIK, he meant the threat to US from Afghanistan has reduced, while the talitubbies are still a threat to Afghan people. It also means that NATO is slowly concentrating on the epicenter of this terrorism threats.

What was US policy again - taking the fight to the terrorists! Unless Pak army pulls up its socks and acts where it actually should, things are going to be a little bleak in the border regions.

So does that mean the US will allow Afghanistan to go back under the Taliban ? That will be disastrous for US and rest of the world .

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Why, cant your army defend your borders? Or is it only good to interfere in the country's internal politics while eating away a large portion of the budget without any accountability?

very easy for you bhartis to open your large beaks..

there are 2 sides to a border, so you could ask why couldnt NATO (consisting of several top-notch and well endowed armies) prevent those militants from allegedly coming INTO Afghanistan?

did it ever occur to you that it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to monitor every part of the long, rugged and demarcated border? Its very easy for you indians to just yap away and say what other countries should do.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Why, cant your army defend your borders? Or is it only good to interfere in the country's internal politics while eating away a large portion of the budget without any accountability?

So let me ask you Why can't NATO/US stationed for 10 Years in afghanistan did not prevent and stop afghani terrorists (taliban/AQ) over the other side of the border so whose Job is it "Pakistan"??

 

[Leader]

very true, since usa is begging peace with afghan talibans so the threat as claimed is left in pakistan, where usa wants pakistan to conduct military operation !!

champs of hypocrisy at their best !

 

[gubbi]

very easy for you bhartis to open your large beaks..

Dude. talking like trolls is one thing, addressing topics under discussion is another.

there are 2 sides to a border, so you could ask why couldnt NATO (consisting of several top-notch and well endowed armies) prevent those militants from allegedly coming INTO Afghanistan?
did it ever occur to you that it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to monitor every part of the long, rugged and demarcated border? Its very easy for you indians to just yap away and say what other countries should do.

India too has a long rugged border. And although China has no safe havens and is not involved in pushing in militants into India, India has spent considerable resources to monitor that border. Heck that border is much more difficult than the one you are talking about.

Pakistan has the resources to man that border, but is unwilling. There lies the problem. NATO can do only as much. It is as much you job as that of Afghan and NATO forces. They are trying to do their jobs. Are you? Thats the question.

Taliban and its various factions including your beloved Haqqani network are Pakistani establishment's creation and thats why there is an apprehension going against them.

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So let me ask you Why can't NATO/US stationed for 10 Years in afghanistan did not prevent and stop afghani terrorists (taliban/AQ) over the other side of the border so whose Job is it "Pakistan"??

Yes. On your side of the border.

 

[American Pakistani]

very true, since usa is begging peace with afghan talibans so the threat as claimed is left in pakistan, where usa wants pakistan to conduct military operation !!

champs of hypocrisy at their best !

Well, if you remember we did a peace deal with terrorists back in beginning 2009 but what were the results? these terrorists march near the capital, human abuses & torturing of civilions increased 100 times. So for Pakistan it is MUST now to defeat these napak terrorists with full brutal force.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Just because it is published by the Hindustan Times does not mean it is not, ipso facto, true. The piece seems totally credible to me. What aspect of the piece do you think is not true? Why simply flame and troll about it. What sentences do you think are lies? The entire article has the ring of authenticity. And the implied corollary is that even when the USA removes its "surge" 33,000 troops, it will still fly the drones over FATA. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if drones become even thicker in the FATA skies as the USA boots-on-the-ground in Afghanistan fade away. THAT IS, unless Pakistan finally shuts down the Afghan Taliban safe havens on its soil.

Ignorant Americans really piss me off! open your eyes! see the reality.....

Pakistan forces kill 50 militants near Afghan border | Reuters
Militants from Afghanistan attack post in Kurram | Newspaper | DAWN.COM
Border incursion in Bajaur: Clashes continue between Afghan intruders, tribesmen – The Express Tribune
Five killed in cross-border attack: officials | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

these are self explanatory^^^^

 

[Leader]

Well, if you remember we did a peace deal with terrorists back in beginning 2009 but what were the results? these terrorists march near the capital, human abuses & torturing of civilions increased 100 times. So for Pakistan it is MUST now to defeat these napak terrorists with full brutal force.

nonsense ! as for peace to work is concern, it can work if foreign element doesnot play its role.

 

[Luftwaffe]

gubbi Yes. On your side of the border.

Do you understand what I asked don't you have reasonable answer when I asked whose Job is it on the afghan side of the border for the past 10 Years and you came up with a dodgy BS "on your side"....

So I guess Abu Zolfiqar said it right at bhartis very easy for you bhartis to open your large beaks..

 

[Dance]

Oh really then wtf is this?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/116148-east-afghanistan-al-qaeda-taliban-central-2.html

The title and article are just yellow journalism from a third class news paper

 

[Major Ram]

Afghanistan and Pakistan both are same when it comes to the terror threat. Its wrong to say that its just Pakistan.

 

[DV RULES]

Original article which the news is based on.

Obama’s variation on ‘mission accomplished’ - The Washington Post

Washington post = Best propaganda source in the world.

 

[khanz]

If you indians think it's so easy to secure borders why can't you stop 50 million illegal bangladeshis from entering india ?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Washington post = Best propaganda source in the world.

New York Slimes is a lot worse dude....

believe me

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Heck that border is much more difficult than the one you are talking about.

debatable

Pakistan has the resources to man that border, but is unwilling. There lies the problem. NATO can do only as much. It is as much you job as that of Afghan and NATO forces. They are trying to do their jobs. Are you? Thats the question.

yes we do our jobs despite limited resources and that's why Swat --which was full of militants as early as 2008 --is peaceful again and largely miscreant-free. We've had many successes, we've had some failures. We're learning on the job from both.

but to monitor every individual who criss-crosses the border --is almost impossible. you dont know the realities on the ground, so best to remain mute on a subject you hardly know a thing about

Taliban and its various factions including your beloved Haqqani network are Pakistani establishment's creation and thats why there is an apprehension going against them.

okay from now on i will no longer take your posts seriously at all

''Haqqani is a Pakistani creation''

it's hogwash like this which makes me wonder why I even bother replying to some of these posts. Haqqani is a tribe, they exist on both sides of the border and have always existed for a very long time on both sides (even before we had Pakistan). This is the reality with a lot of the other tribes (you also have Durranis, Afridis, Kakars, etc.)

so stop acting like the Haqqanis are some Pakistani science lab experiment or something. They are just tribal guys -- yes many of them are against NATO but not because NATO represents the West. If Nigerians or or Burmese were occupying Afghanistan --it would have been the same thing as well.

Yes. On your side of the border.

there are 2 sides to a border...we learn that from time to time, especially when drunken farmers on your side stumble into our side and have to be escorted back