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No talks till India restores Kashmir special status: PM

To persuade pakistan? Hahahaha.they were there to humiliate us.have you seen any joint statement against India? They do business with India.india is using money as a weapon and we are using speeches which nobody listens.this is real world sir.now Arabs are feeling the heat again after aramco attack.they will come again for us but I don't see Arabs standing against India now.times have changed.

I agree with you. On highlighted part, what if they are thinking of reducing the dependency on Pakistan (you will see Gen Sharif back in Pakistan in couple of months), and asking India to train their army....just a thought.
 
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PESHAWAR: Pledging to present the “Kashmir case” at the United Nations General Assembly “like no one ever did before”, Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said there was no use talking to India unless it lifted curfew and restored the special status of held Kashmir.

“To India’s misfortune, it has been taken over by extremist and racist Hindus. Only a person with an extremist mindset would do what they have done in Kashmir by keeping it under curfew for 45 days,” he said at a presser after inaugurating the Integrated Transit Trade Management System at the Pak-Afghan border.

Torkham, located 55km northwest of here, serves as one of the major border crossings with Afghanistan. The new management system has allowed for round-the-clock trade and immigration facilities at the border crossing.

“I consider this to be a very historic day,” said Mr Khan, who was the first elected prime minister ever to visit the border crossing at Torkham.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi accompanied the prime minister. Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Mahmood Khan and Governor Shah Farman received PM Khan at the helipad in Torkham.

The Governor of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province, Hayatullah Hayat, had driven to Torkham on special invitation to attend the ceremony.

Imran says those wanting to go and fight in occupied valley will do great injustice to Kashmiris; Trump will be asked to resume Afghan peace talks

Prime Minister Khan came down hard on the Indian leadership, whose RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) ideology, he said, had led them to hate Muslims and Pakistan. “Their entire policy towards Pakistan is a policy of hatred. This is the RSS policy of hatred towards Muslims. So unless they lift curfew in held Kashmir and rescind the revocation of Article 370, there is no chance of negotiations [with India],” he declared.


Mr Khan is due to address the 74th session of the UN General Assembly later this month.

When a reporter pointedly asked if Pakistan would permit those eager to fight for the Kashmiris, the prime minister said anyone wanting to go and fight in India-held Kashmir would do a great injustice to the Kashmiris by undermining their legitimate cause. “Anyone from Pakistan wanting to fight in Kashmir or go for jihad in Kashmir would do the greatest injustice to the Kashmiris. Such an act would be an act of animosity towards the Kashmiris,” he emphasised.

He said that India, while keeping 900,000 troops in Kashmir, had always been blaming Pakistan for instability in the held territory. “Anyone going from here will give them the pretext to blame Pakistan for cross-border terrorism and infiltrating terrorists,” he said.

Mr Khan said India had accused Pakistan of cross-border terrorism. “The entire world’s attention was drawn towards us, Pakistan,” he said. “Now India is stuck,” he said while referring to international concerns over the state of affairs in the held valley. “And the pressure is building up day by day,” he added.

“Now this is what I am going to say. Anyone making any such attempt [to cross over into Kashmir to fight] would be an enemy of Pakistan as well as an enemy of Kashmiris,” he asserted.

US-Taliban talks

Prime Minister Khan said Pakistan did all that was in its power to facilitate talks between the United States and the Afghan Taliban. “We arranged for the meetings and facilitated the travel of Afghan Taliban to Qatar. Even the Americans acknowledge this. We went to the extent of not participating in the peace talks. We didn’t participate in the talks. Had we known there was some problem, we would have made more efforts,” he added.

“You are right,” PM Khan said when this reporter asked if he too was taken by surprise by US President Donald Trump’s sudden cancellation of peace talks with the Taliban. “We read about the breakdown in talks in newspapers,” he said.

“This is very tragic. They were close to signing a peace agreement,” Mr Khan said, adding: “I have a meeting with President Trump in New York on Monday and would insist that peace dialogue resume.”

The prime minister said peace in Afghanistan was important for Pakistan, adding that Islamabad had tried to convince the Taliban to sit down with the Afghan government and conclude a peace agreement ahead of the elections. He said peace in Afghanistan would open up trade with Central Asian republics which were more than keen to expand trade ties with Pakistan through the Gwadar port.

Mr Khan noted that with the opening of 24/7 trade services at Torkham, trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan had shown 50 per cent increase over the last few days. “But this is nothing compared with the potential of trade with the Central Asian republics. Peace in Afghanistan will transform the entire region,” he said.



Ghotki incident

The prime minister condemned in the strongest terms acts of vandalism against Hindus in Ghotki and said such acts were against the Constitution, the vision of Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the spirit of Islam which considered minorities as equal citizens. “This is a conspiracy to undermine my visit to the UNGA. This has been done deliberately to sabotage [my address],” he added.

The prime minister accused the opposition of pursuing a one-point agenda of seeking an NRO [deal] and said that the NRO given by former military dictator Gen Musharraf to the leaders of opposition parties had only harmed the country and added more debt to the national exchequer. “I want to make it clear before the entire nation that no matter what happens, we will not give an NRO to anyone,” the prime minister declared.


Published in Dawn, September 19th, 2019
What imran nazi means is that..
India can inslave kashmir but do it lawfully......
I never thought that oxford produce eunuchs also....
Now we have 2 oxfords eunuchs .. billo and imran bahji..
 
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I agree with you. On highlighted part, what if they are thinking of reducing the dependency on Pakistan (you will see Gen Sharif back in Pakistan in couple of months), and asking India to train their army....just a thought.

I feel that after Yemen snub,they formulated a strategy to counter pakistan and I think we are in this situation because of iran.we have people in our country who supports Iran and iran has destroyed our relations with Arabs which India wanted from a very long time.where are we standing as a country? Nobody even cares about Kashmir now.it is like those who take actions are winners.speeches are useless.also Iran is playing a crucial role in Taliban India talks.basically Iran is doing everything for the destruction of pakistan but we care so much about Iran lol. Arabs don't need us now and our diplomatic failure can be seen.we are in deep trouble.
 
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What imran nazi means is that..
India can inslave kashmir but do it lawfully......
I never thought that oxford produce eunuchs also....
Now we have 2 oxfords eunuchs .. billo and imran bahji..

He only said wait for the right opportunity and let him talk at UN first.

Didn’t Prophet Muhammad saws stop early Muslims from fighting back?

When we strike, it should a moral as well as military victory.

I fully trust Pak Fauj and PTI on this.
 
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In any case, talks are utterly useless, under the prevailing circumstances.
 
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India is not interested in talks with Pakistan, period.

In past it was India which was finding all the excuses to not to talk, now Pakistan have drawn a line as well.

We are heading for eventual military conflict of biblical proportions. Enjoy the ride. The 27th Feb will look like a walk in the park.
 
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I find there should be two-three pre-conditions of talks with India

1. Restoration of everything India tried on Kashmir on 5th August
2. Opening Indian Occupied Kashmir for Journalists and visitors so they could see reality on the ground.
3. Kashmiris will not be blocked to visit Pakistan and anybody from IOK will be free to visit Azad Kashmir.

In negotiations, you have to give up one or two things, so you must have additional conditions as your starting point, more conditions than you actually want. Putting one condition before India will not result in giving you what you are after. Art of negotiations must be learned.
 
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He only said wait for the right opportunity and let him talk at UN first.

Didn’t Prophet Muhammad saws stop early Muslims from fighting back?

When we strike, it should a moral as well as military victory.

I fully trust Pak Fauj and PTI on this.
i disagree , both are masters of delusions..............

lets wait till there is no kashmiri alive....democrazy is a waardaat............UN is a fraud........... go ahead ,

all the pol-parties in pakistan are followers of Joseph Goebbels.....including pti...
 
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If IK thinks he can change the world's mind about Kashmir in a speech at the UNGA, then he's just fooling himself. Those speeches are made to a mostly empty hall and are made for local consumption. Their impact is almost nil.

To be honest, such meetings are a monumental waste of time.

Actually they do...
No talks + hitler modi's fascist gov + indian state terrorist in custody + human rights violation + great risk of nuclear war = investments leaving india with global pressure on modi to submit to demands

Yeah but india has FAR more to loose than us...and they ARE loosing it; indians are just beginning to find out how far reaching Pakistan's words can be.

You are delusional. No one is listening to what Pakistan has to say...and for good reason.

Just two out of which one really worked.
Block Indian Air Space and enjoy indian suffering

Suffering? :what: It's more of a nuisance, and it only impacts Indian airlines. Non-Indian airlines can still transit Pakistan to fly into India.
 
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If IK thinks he can change the world's mind about Kashmir in a speech at the UNGA, then he's just fooling himself. Those speeches are made to a mostly empty hall and are made for local consumption. Their impact is almost nil.

To be honest, such meetings are a monumental waste of time.





You are delusional. No one is listening to what Pakistan has to say...and for good reason.



Suffering? :what: It's more of a nuisance, and it only impacts Indian airlines. Non-Indian airlines can still transit Pakistan to fly into India.
oh good...you shouldn't be worried then. :enjoy:
 
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This is an internal matter
1) File a petition in Indian supreme court.
2) do a dharna infront of Indian parliament.

PESHAWAR: Pledging to present the “Kashmir case” at the United Nations General Assembly “like no one ever did before”, Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said there was no use talking to India unless it lifted curfew and restored the special status of held Kashmir.

“To India’s misfortune, it has been taken over by extremist and racist Hindus. Only a person with an extremist mindset would do what they have done in Kashmir by keeping it under curfew for 45 days,” he said at a presser after inaugurating the Integrated Transit Trade Management System at the Pak-Afghan border.

Torkham, located 55km northwest of here, serves as one of the major border crossings with Afghanistan. The new management system has allowed for round-the-clock trade and immigration facilities at the border crossing.

“I consider this to be a very historic day,” said Mr Khan, who was the first elected prime minister ever to visit the border crossing at Torkham.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi accompanied the prime minister. Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Mahmood Khan and Governor Shah Farman received PM Khan at the helipad in Torkham.

The Governor of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province, Hayatullah Hayat, had driven to Torkham on special invitation to attend the ceremony.

Imran says those wanting to go and fight in occupied valley will do great injustice to Kashmiris; Trump will be asked to resume Afghan peace talks

Prime Minister Khan came down hard on the Indian leadership, whose RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) ideology, he said, had led them to hate Muslims and Pakistan. “Their entire policy towards Pakistan is a policy of hatred. This is the RSS policy of hatred towards Muslims. So unless they lift curfew in held Kashmir and rescind the revocation of Article 370, there is no chance of negotiations [with India],” he declared.


Mr Khan is due to address the 74th session of the UN General Assembly later this month.

When a reporter pointedly asked if Pakistan would permit those eager to fight for the Kashmiris, the prime minister said anyone wanting to go and fight in India-held Kashmir would do a great injustice to the Kashmiris by undermining their legitimate cause. “Anyone from Pakistan wanting to fight in Kashmir or go for jihad in Kashmir would do the greatest injustice to the Kashmiris. Such an act would be an act of animosity towards the Kashmiris,” he emphasised.

He said that India, while keeping 900,000 troops in Kashmir, had always been blaming Pakistan for instability in the held territory. “Anyone going from here will give them the pretext to blame Pakistan for cross-border terrorism and infiltrating terrorists,” he said.

Mr Khan said India had accused Pakistan of cross-border terrorism. “The entire world’s attention was drawn towards us, Pakistan,” he said. “Now India is stuck,” he said while referring to international concerns over the state of affairs in the held valley. “And the pressure is building up day by day,” he added.

“Now this is what I am going to say. Anyone making any such attempt [to cross over into Kashmir to fight] would be an enemy of Pakistan as well as an enemy of Kashmiris,” he asserted.

US-Taliban talks

Prime Minister Khan said Pakistan did all that was in its power to facilitate talks between the United States and the Afghan Taliban. “We arranged for the meetings and facilitated the travel of Afghan Taliban to Qatar. Even the Americans acknowledge this. We went to the extent of not participating in the peace talks. We didn’t participate in the talks. Had we known there was some problem, we would have made more efforts,” he added.

“You are right,” PM Khan said when this reporter asked if he too was taken by surprise by US President Donald Trump’s sudden cancellation of peace talks with the Taliban. “We read about the breakdown in talks in newspapers,” he said.

“This is very tragic. They were close to signing a peace agreement,” Mr Khan said, adding: “I have a meeting with President Trump in New York on Monday and would insist that peace dialogue resume.”

The prime minister said peace in Afghanistan was important for Pakistan, adding that Islamabad had tried to convince the Taliban to sit down with the Afghan government and conclude a peace agreement ahead of the elections. He said peace in Afghanistan would open up trade with Central Asian republics which were more than keen to expand trade ties with Pakistan through the Gwadar port.

Mr Khan noted that with the opening of 24/7 trade services at Torkham, trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan had shown 50 per cent increase over the last few days. “But this is nothing compared with the potential of trade with the Central Asian republics. Peace in Afghanistan will transform the entire region,” he said.



Ghotki incident

The prime minister condemned in the strongest terms acts of vandalism against Hindus in Ghotki and said such acts were against the Constitution, the vision of Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the spirit of Islam which considered minorities as equal citizens. “This is a conspiracy to undermine my visit to the UNGA. This has been done deliberately to sabotage [my address],” he added.

The prime minister accused the opposition of pursuing a one-point agenda of seeking an NRO [deal] and said that the NRO given by former military dictator Gen Musharraf to the leaders of opposition parties had only harmed the country and added more debt to the national exchequer. “I want to make it clear before the entire nation that no matter what happens, we will not give an NRO to anyone,” the prime minister declared.


Published in Dawn, September 19th, 2019
 
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This is an internal matter
1) File a petition in Indian supreme court.
2) do a dharna infront of Indian parliament.
well We won't file a petition with the kangaroo courts of the banana republic of india...but a dharna in delhi?
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NOOOO PROBLEM!8-)
 
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