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No slums in China ? Think again - Meet China's 'well people'.

There are slums in China. You wud be delusional if you believe otherwise. Thats why China needs to grow more and more to bring per capita GDP to 20k+ that is the world average.


Chinese slums are different than other slums, first of course there are people living poorly, we are still very much third world, the thought that there isn't is stupid.

But let's look at the facts, in brazil crime is a huge problem in slums as is drugs in Mexico. In China slums are no more dangerous than most other places. It's just poor.

Then let's look at Indian slums, people living on unregulated "housing" even in the "heart" of Mumbai. Unregulated and abandoned by the government.

China is still very much socialist in many respects and this is one of them, all these people collect monthly welfare, however little it is, all have some sort of identification, except migrant workers, but the migrant workers have identification just not for the city and back home they have a farm so they won't ever starve to death.


China has poor areas, but it doesn't reflect the same as slums in other areas, because our government reaches far and wide, same can't be said of Brazil and India where the government is not nearly as powerful.
 
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Ah! I was waiting for a Chinese troll to show up and bring India into the thread which is about China and its cavemen who live on the horizons of civilization!

I guess the Chinese posters out her can't digest their meals without mentioning India. :hitwall:
This one Indian guy took over China and Far East section and posted dozens of posts negative about China in a couple of hours ,and you blame China to drag India in?I almost never go to Indian section.
 
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China has slums,even US has slums. When I was in Miami I saw many people live under the bridges,the local people told me that homeless people move to Miami in winter cause it's warmer there.

Ha ha ha....
Looks like today OP is in a secrete mission to unravel all hidden Chinese Mysteries ..... :lol::lol::lol:
Thanks for the western media's unfailing passion for everything negative about China, nothing can't be hidden.
 
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This one Indian guy took over China and Far East section and posted dozens of posts negative about China in a couple of hours ,and you blame China to drag India in?I almost never go to Indian section.
Then discuss bout the topic. Dont assume the intent of OP and shoot the messenger.
 
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Oh, when will they stop this China comparing and wake up from their Disney dream

This thread is about China . Nobody was comparing anything and the only one who bought India into this was a Chinese .
 
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India is collapsing and they need to make digs on China to make them feel better. The Indian economy over the past 3 years has taken a nose dive. The Indian Rupee has lost 38% of her value and the Indian growth rate has slowed from 7,8% to about 4,8% year on year. Forex reserves has fallen while international debt is on the increase as is inflation. Social cohesion is fraying and that's why you hear more and more stories about violence and rape coming out of India.
 
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Last winter in Guizhou Province, five street children sheltering from the cold in a rubbish bin died of suffocation.

Another self deceiving poster. You aren't really fooling anybody here except maybe yourself.

Bad example anyway. The 5 kids were runaways. They died because of carbon monoxide poisoning not suffocation.
 
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There are plenty of poor areas in China, but it's funny seeing Indians comparing their poverty rates to China. China does not have more poor than the entire continent of Africa, nor does it have half the households without working toilets. I'm surprised this Mech guy posts about these topics, as if the problems in his home country was not worse. I got to say, some Indians seem to care more about China's problems than Chinese themselves.
 
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How can any one live in such filth? :bad: Shame on Indian government
 
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BEIJING — At a conference in Beijing, I once met a Cornell University professor who told me that he always likes to hire a taxi to explore the hidden corners of whatever city he is visiting. He said he was surprised to find that in all the Chinese cities he’d been to — unlike Bangalore, Mumbai, Calcutta, or even in New York or Chicago — he’s seen no “glaring slums.”

I tried to explain to this professor why slums don’t exist in China. It’s because of the housing allocation by employers, the household registration system and the so-called urban management system of China’s planned economy. But I somehow couldn’t quite convince the professor.

China’s urban areas are growing faster than anyplace in the world. During the 1980s, the population increase in Chinese cities was equivalent to what 19th century European cities experienced.

So how does China keep its first and second-tier cities so shiny and glamorous, and keep the extremely poor out of public sight?

The so-called “cavemen” who recently have been found living in Beijing’s wells offer one painfully clear answer. Around upscale residential areas and four-star hotels there are homeless people living among the city’s wells, giving them access to warmth from the nearby heating pipes.

China’s state ownership of city land and its supporting urban planning and management system help prevent widespread cases of unauthorized and chaotic construction. At the same time, an array of poverty relief measures, from subsistence allowances to low-cost housing, are all linked with household registration or resident permit.

But there are many migrants who have left their rural domicile to work in the cities without being able to find affordable housing. And urban management agents responsible for keeping the city clean and orderly kick out people who take refuge under bridges, in parks or other public places, day or night. All this makes the bottom of a thermal well an “optimal choice” for some of these homeless people.

Slum as solution

Beijing’s modern “cavemen” offer an important perspective about the dark side of urbanization. Although the Chinese government is built on Marxism — a critical theory — a crucial dimension of it has long been neglected in China. Economic development, the GDP and urbanization, which have evolved into complex concepts in the West, are instead pursued in China without reflection.

Only if this fact is addressed squarely can a solution be found. As a matter of fact, the slum itself can be considered a sort of solution. It is the manifestation of a liberal government’s limits of power and responsibility. The existence of slums illustrates how a government can leave part of a city’s space to the poor, to create some sort of shelter for themselves, unsightly as it may be.

Once these underground residents were discovered, Beijing authorities promptly sent people out to seal the wells with concrete. One can assume in good faith that this was done to prevent safety hazards and to protect the city’s heating equipment. And yet, if there is no appropriate follow up to provide relief to the underground residents who have been ejected from the only home they know this action can also seem quite abrupt and heartless.

A neat-freak government that is paternalistic and intolerant of the appearance of slums should naturally take more responsibility to provide shelter for the homeless that doesn't affect city infrastructure.

Last winter in Guizhou Province, five street children sheltering from the cold in a rubbish bin died of suffocation. Similarly the heating pipe wells are potential security risks. From the government point of view, it is obviously wiser to take preventive measures. But sealing the wells cannot solve the problem, and may even block another path to survival in the face of extreme poverty.

The next step is the hardest: how to find sustainable decent housing for China’s most vulnerable people. The hidden homeless are caused by various government policies such as household registration, one-child family planning, and urban management.

Wang Xiuqing, a father of three, washes taxis in Beijing by day, and lives and sleeps in the well near his work to save money for his children and for paying the fines of having more than one child. His wife and children live somewhere else.

The one-dimensional economic development that has made a small part of the Chinese population get very rich fast has left a heavy toll in terms of social justice and the environment.

In another epoch it was said that “the portals of the rich reek of flesh and wine, while frozen bodies by the roadside lie.” It’s time for the Chinese government to focus on the dignity of all people, on social justice and protection of human rights.



Read the full article: Hidden Poverty - The Well People Of Beijing - All News Is Global
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Chinese know there are poor areas, we don't deny that. Being poor is not good any where but being poor in China is better than in india. Not sure what the purpose of the article is other than to troll or let us know something we already know.
 
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