'No prison in Bangladesh where people are tortured like in USA's Guantanamo': Information Minister Hasan Mahmud says

[Azadkashmir]

regime change assignment accepted by usa.

 

[UKBengali]

regime change assignment accepted by usa.

BD will be a far tougher nut to crack than Pakistan.

Unlike Pakistan, it has no effective opposition and the army is loyal to the government.

 

[Azadkashmir]

BD will be a far tougher but to crack than Pakistan.

Unlike Pakistan, it has no effective opposition and the army is loyal to the government.

yh the dollar has cracked many pples. i am sure army has a taste for luxury.

 

[Bengal71]

yh the dollar has cracked many pples. i am sure army has a taste for luxury.

We shall see. Now that you guys got regime changed, you now want to see the same done to us to drag us down to your level to feel good.

 

[Azadkashmir]

We shall see. Now that you guys got regime changed, you now want to see the same done to us to drag us down to your level to feel good.

no you pagal it true south asians suffer from crab mentality but not all. i wish bangla breaks all forms imperialism unlike slave pakistan. we pak ppl are cursed ppl with cruel rulers.

i can live with american or chinese bussiness men becuase they maybe billionaires but bthey keep wealth in the country n fund where the country benefits and open factories but pak crooks take it all n transfer abroad and give bak less than zero.

 

[bdslph]

that part is true but be careful what you do and say
usa is keeping everything written in books

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You think colonialism is a one way street? No!
When you trangress on someones land you are in fact opening yourself for transgression by some other culture. This is the reality of every interaction in nature. Any action is always a two way street.

Do you think Norway had colonies? Or Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Austria or Switzerland? Why they took so many migrants and refugees from Asia and Africa? Even the biggest EU migrant destination Germany was not that of a colonizer. It had a few African colonies only for a brief period of times. Germany took one million Syrians. Did Germany colonized Syria? The fact is, current migration pattern in the West have little to do with colonialism. Only in case of UK and France we can clearly establish link between former colonies and current migration trend. This lack of gratitude and sense of entitlement on part of refugees and migrants in Western countries is one of the major reasons why gulf between migrants and host societies is increasing day by day.

 

[Wergeland]

Do you think Norway had colonies? Or Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Austria or Switzerland? Why they took so many migrants and refugees from Asia and Africa? Even the biggest EU migrant destination Germany was not that of a colonizer. It had a few African colonies only for a brief period of times. Germany took one million Syrians. Did Germany colonized Syria? The fact is, current migration pattern in the West have little to do with colonialism. Only in case of UK and France we can clearly establish link between former colonies and current migration trend. This lack of gratitude and sense of entitlement on part of refugees and migrants in Western countries is one of the major reasons why gulf between migrants and host societies is increasing day by day.

While its true that neither Of the country you mentioned had colonies, except Denmark, they still are living in the same sphere (thus benfited from) where major powers were colonialists. It all began with the Spanish Empire and Culminated in the American and Russian Empires which are still extant.

I find it peculiar that a immigrant is supposed to live up to standards that white people not even expect from themselves. Some immigrants are trapped by what we in Norway call «takknemmelighetsgjeld» which translates to thankfulnessdebt, leading to a sense of inferiority. A wise elder Norwegian man once told me that there is no reason a immigrant should feel this debt and try to prove his/her patriotism. Because for him all people who lives in Norway is equal.

I pity those immigrants who feel they have to prove their worth and allegiance. Does a white drunkard have to prove that hes a patriot?

Europe and the west have been throughly secularized since WW2. Young people no longer wants children. One can guess what will happen if immigration stops; there wont be anyone left to take care of aging population and there wont be economic growth. Either the west stop being socially and sexually liberal and go back to pre WW2 society. Or it keeps being liberal society woth abundance, accept low birth rates and therefor the corresponding net immigration society it currently is.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Its important to get highlight what i am trying to say. That is; Try to be the best of yourself, not bcause you owe it to somebody or some entity, but because you then would be able to live a good life and help your friends and neighbors. In that way youll automatically be a good citizen.

 

[bluesky]

no you pagal it true south asians suffer from crab mentality but not all. i wish bangla breaks all forms imperialism unlike slave pakistan. we pak ppl are cursed ppl with cruel rulers.

i can live with american or chinese bussiness men becuase they maybe billionaires but bthey keep wealth in the country n fund where the country benefits and open factories but pak crooks take it all n transfer abroad and give bak less than zero.

It is the same in Bangladesh. Rich and powerful people steal money and send it to Western countries instead of investing in the country.

 

[UKBengali]

Interesting discussion.

I think there are good points on both sides.

While it is true that the West does have better human rights for people that live within those countries, that is more a function on the overall development of those countries rather than an intrinsic better value system.

I am sure that if secular countries like BD one day become developed the human rights there would be at least as good as that found in the West today. In fact probably even better due to the nature of BD people.

While immigrants should count themselves fortunate to live in the West, they should not go out of their way to show any gratitude or extra patriotism.

 

[Wergeland]

While it is true that the West does have better human rights for people that live within those countries, that is more a function on the overall development of those countries rather than an intrinsic better value system.

I am sure that if secular countries like BD one day become developed the human rights there would be at least as good as that found in the West today. In fact probably even better due to the nature of BD people.

you nailed it 100%

That is exactly my view too.
What the west has achieved is fantastic, but there nothing instristic about western society that makes it a better value system. IMO any good governance system with good development, will eventually lead to to similar good results.

 

[Destranator]

We shall see. Now that you guys got regime changed, you now want to see the same done to us to drag us down to your level to feel good.

Let's not go gung-ho on everyone and reserve ammo for the biggots/haters.

 

[bluesky]

While immigrants should count themselves fortunate to live in the West, they should not go out of their way to show any gratitude or extra patriotism.

Yes, you are just an ingrate like most of BD people. So, are you asking Rohingya in BD to think like you have suggested, as well? Will not people say they are ingrate if they follow your advice?

Better to learn many good human qualities. Ungratefulness is a bad human quality.