NO JOKE: Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC

[DJ_Viper]

@DJ_Viper

Are you voting for this guy?

No. In fact, HELL NO!! I wish, Jeb Bush, or Carli would've remained in a race. I wish, guys at the RNC, now having a holly fu*ck moment.....would've put Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney or even John McCaine again for a run. Any one of those would've made a perfect future US president!!

This guy is derogatory towards all minorities, he's flat out racist, abusive towards women, disabled people and even towards our military vets and their families. This guy represents nothing that America stands for. He thinks we may still be living in WWII so he's trying to act like another Hitler. If the Reps don't get him out of our party, I am afraid that he would've caused the Republican party a serious reputation blow and we may not win the next election either.

Just by really paying attention since this weekend, I think my prediction is that Hillary would win with a HUGE landslide. Many prominent Reps have already said they'll support her.

...The old 'unnamed source'. Sounds like bullshit to me. Anyone but Killary. Dig up Sadaams corpse, I'd vote for him before Killary.

I am a lot more die hard Rep than you are, I am almost positive of it. But, you should also know that the entire Republican party is shi*tting in their pants right now as to wtf have they supported, and not made a concrete effort to stop him a while ago.

I don't like Hillary either and have serious issues with some of the policies of Mr. Obama. BUT, one thing I can't do (and events prove it) is to question their loyalty to America and be concerned that they'll act in the nation's best interest with maturity and calm headedness. This guy, will put a LOT of our children serving in the military in the harms way without question. Leon Panetta and how Hayden, two top intelligence officials are concerned as you can see one of them above. Many senior level Republicans have openly said that they'll vote for Hillary. Not because anyone wants to, its just to keep this nation together and ensure our leadership across the globe.

Mr. Trump's erratic decisions like he's made in his business (dealing with much lesser powerful people than himself), may have worked for him well. But when he uses his mentality that we all now know in the real world, he'll easily give our Global Leadership to China, India or Russia by getting us into a mess that would weaken us.

Just listen to this guy's "expert" opinions on military strategy and yet, he can't tell the difference between Europe, the ME and Asia!! Hell, he's been so demeaning towards our Vets, disabled and the families of military personnel that I've never seen that in my lifetime in American politics. And you want him to have the power to press the nuke button?

Its time (I say this with pain), that we put our country above politics and party. This is exactly what Megg Whitman and many other top level Republicans are doing. I suggest you do that too so we can continue to keep our country on the top, military wise.

 

[C130]

we can't use nukes because it's not profitable for the MIC, why use a few nukes to destroy or scare the enemy into submission, when you can spend a trillion dollars on weapons and personnel over 10 years.

 

[New Resolve]

If this guy gets elected, were going to have to go in and secure america's nukes.

 

[Akasa]

There is nothing legally- or constitutionally-binding that prevents the United States from using nuclear weapons under defensive circumstances.

 

[Paksanity]

No. In fact, HELL NO!! I wish, Jeb Bush, or Carli would've remained in a race. I wish, guys at the RNC, now having a holly fu*ck moment.....would've put Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney or even John McCaine again for a run. Any one of those would've made a perfect future US president!!

This guy is derogatory towards all minorities, he's flat out racist, abusive towards women, disabled people and even towards our military vets and their families. This guy represents nothing that America stands for. He thinks we may still be living in WWII so he's trying to act like another Hitler. If the Reps don't get him out of our party, I am afraid that he would've caused the Republican party a serious reputation blow and we may not win the next election either.

Just by really paying attention since this weekend, I think my prediction is that Hillary would win with a HUGE landslide. Many prominent Reps have already said they'll support her.



I am a lot more die hard Rep than you are, I am almost positive of it. But, you should also know that the entire Republican party is shi*tting in their pants right now as to wtf have they supported, and not made a concrete effort to stop him a while ago.

I don't like Hillary either and have serious issues with some of the policies of Mr. Obama. BUT, one thing I can't do (and events prove it) is to question their loyalty to America and be concerned that they'll act in the nation's best interest with maturity and calm headedness. This guy, will put a LOT of our children serving in the military in the harms way without question. Leon Panetta and how Hayden, two top intelligence officials are concerned as you can see one of them above. Many senior level Republicans have openly said that they'll vote for Hillary. Not because anyone wants to, its just to keep this nation together and ensure our leadership across the globe.

Mr. Trump's erratic decisions like he's made in his business (dealing with much lesser powerful people than himself), may have worked for him well. But when he uses his mentality that we all now know in the real world, he'll easily give our Global Leadership to China, India or Russia by getting us into a mess that would weaken us.

Just listen to this guy's "expert" opinions on military strategy and yet, he can't tell the difference between Europe, the ME and Asia!! Hell, he's been so demeaning towards our Vets, disabled and the families of military personnel that I've never seen that in my lifetime in American politics. And you want him to have the power to press the nuke button?

Its time (I say this with pain), that we put our country above politics and party. This is exactly what Megg Whitman and many other top level Republicans are doing. I suggest you do that too so we can continue to keep our country on the top, military wise.

Got to agree with you. American voters don't have good choices this time around. Republicans have shot themselves in the foot. He isn't going to make it to the White house. Hillary will outsmart him and this is no good either.

 

[neem456]

Whats the big deal.
There are number of countries that says it all the time.
Take pakistan for example.

@HRK
Read this for proof and its a neutral source, not indian.
And do you mind taking down the negative points now. You should behave more sensibly before showering anyone.


Why does Pakistan threaten India so often with nuclear attack?


Pakistan national security advisor, Sartaj Aziz, accused India of acting like a regional superpower and said, “We are a nuclear-armed country and we know how to defend ourselves."

The scheduled meeting of the NSAs of India and Pakistan was cancelled by Islamabad citing New Delhi's refusal to allow an expanded agenda and involvement of the Hurriyat in the talks.

Following the cancellation of talks, Aziz came up with a statement threatening the use of nuclear weapons by Pakistan.

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Pakistan has pursued its nuclear missile program in a bid to counter India’s conventional capability

This threat, that of using nuclear weapons against India, from Pakistan, is not new and other members of its establishment have made similar statements in the recent past.

Why does Pakistan rely heavily on the nuclear threat?

Why does even something like cancellation of talks, which is an effort towards normalisation of bilateral relationship, result in a nuclear threat by the Pakistani establishment?

Terrorism

Islamabad initiated the development of the nuclear weapon program with full rigour after the defeat in the 1971 war and the creation of Bangladesh.

A deep desire to neutralise India's conventional capability and fear of further disintegration of Pakistan were the most compelling factors for Pakistani leadership to go nuclear.

The military has pursued terrorism as a tool against India for four decades now and nuclear weapons have served as a shield for conducting acts of terror.

Terrorism in Kashmir and other parts of India such as Punjab accelerated much more after Pakistan acquired nuclear capability in 1987.

Pakistan has used nuclear weapons to carry on terrorism on the sly and to prevent a conventional war.

The threat of nuclear weapons has been used rather conveniently and frequently by the Pakistani leadership during times of crisis.

Since the objective of the nuclear weapons has been to neutralise India’s conventional capability and also to avoid Indian retaliation to Islamabad's acts of terror, Pakistan's penchant for the adoption and excessive reliance on “first use” doctrine was not surprising.

Although the assertion – that of using nuclear weapons first – has varied with changing strategic scenarios, Islamabad has very often stated that it could and would use nuclear weapons as and when it would feel the need.

However, it did take a stance during the 2000-10 period that use of nuclear weapon would be the last resort option for Pakistan. What's not clear is what determines “last resort” for Pakistan?

Arsenal

Pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world with reportedly 120 warheads or even more.

With Chinese assistance, it has also developed land-based ballistic missiles up to the range of 2,500km, as well as built up the cruise missiles – Babur and Ra’ad.

It is very proud of having developed tactical nuclear weapons (Nasr) to be used in the battlefield to further deter India from any form of conventional retaliation.

Pakistan has excessively relied on nuclear weapons for the last three decades and is likely to continue to do so since it has failed to build other strengths or overcome its fundamental challenges.

Its most daunting problems include economic stress, power shortage and rising extremism in the society.

The raging insurgency has been difficult for the military to control.

Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has been launching repeated terrorist attacks, despite military's claim that it has managed to hit the insurgent factions on the borders with the ongoing major operation – Zarb-e-Azb.

Being crippled with the inherent problems of extremism, unemployment and low growth, Pakistan significantly lags behind India on most of the parameters of national security.

Its excessive reliance on nuclear weapons to project its power emerges from its weaknesses within.

It has failed to develop any fundamental strength and support its youth, who seem to be trapped in the culture of violence, terrorism, unemployment and, very importantly so, an extreme identity crisis.

Until Pakistan focuses on building its economy with consistent improvement and investments over a sustained period, its insecurity as a state is unlikely to go away.

Threats

Repeated threats of using nuclear weapons are not an answer to deal with internal weaknesses and challenges.

Also, with India's officially declared doctrine of assured massive retaliation, a nuclear attack by Pakistan would result in a significant retaliatory nuclear strike leading to huge destruction in Pakistan.

The use of nuclear threats again and again will also not allow any productive steps in the direction of normalisation of the hostile relationship between the two countries.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahom...eaten-India-nuclear-attack.html#ixzz4GLs8weQs

 

[HRK]

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trolls always attempt to derail the thread by provocation & off-topic posting ... read the stufff before parroting old propaganda shit

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...n-aq-khans-nuclear-attack-threat_1889915.html
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[neem456]

trolls always attempt to derail the thread by provocation & off-topic posting ... read the stufff before parroting old propaganda shit

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...n-aq-khans-nuclear-attack-threat_1889915.html
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...n-aq-khans-nuclear-attack-threat_1889915.html
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Don't engage me in your stupidity ... I am NOT INTERESTED

That is just validating my point further.
I have said there are many countries who have said that before, and i mentioned pakistan. You add india to that list.
So ?
Since i stand corrected that gives negative point ?
I would had taken it sportingly if you could have proved me wrong rather.

 

[Mugwop]

No. In fact, HELL NO!! I wish, Jeb Bush, or Carli would've remained in a race. I wish, guys at the RNC, now having a holly fu*ck moment.....would've put Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney or even John McCaine again for a run. Any one of those would've made a perfect future US president!!

This guy is derogatory towards all minorities, he's flat out racist, abusive towards women, disabled people and even towards our military vets and their families. This guy represents nothing that America stands for. He thinks we may still be living in WWII so he's trying to act like another Hitler. If the Reps don't get him out of our party, I am afraid that he would've caused the Republican party a serious reputation blow and we may not win the next election either.

Just by really paying attention since this weekend, I think my prediction is that Hillary would win with a HUGE landslide. Many prominent Reps have already said they'll support her.



I am a lot more die hard Rep than you are, I am almost positive of it. But, you should also know that the entire Republican party is shi*tting in their pants right now as to wtf have they supported, and not made a concrete effort to stop him a while ago.

I don't like Hillary either and have serious issues with some of the policies of Mr. Obama. BUT, one thing I can't do (and events prove it) is to question their loyalty to America and be concerned that they'll act in the nation's best interest with maturity and calm headedness. This guy, will put a LOT of our children serving in the military in the harms way without question. Leon Panetta and how Hayden, two top intelligence officials are concerned as you can see one of them above. Many senior level Republicans have openly said that they'll vote for Hillary. Not because anyone wants to, its just to keep this nation together and ensure our leadership across the globe.

Mr. Trump's erratic decisions like he's made in his business (dealing with much lesser powerful people than himself), may have worked for him well. But when he uses his mentality that we all now know in the real world, he'll easily give our Global Leadership to China, India or Russia by getting us into a mess that would weaken us.

Just listen to this guy's "expert" opinions on military strategy and yet, he can't tell the difference between Europe, the ME and Asia!! Hell, he's been so demeaning towards our Vets, disabled and the families of military personnel that I've never seen that in my lifetime in American politics. And you want him to have the power to press the nuke button?

Its time (I say this with pain), that we put our country above politics and party. This is exactly what Megg Whitman and many other top level Republicans are doing. I suggest you do that too so we can continue to keep our country on the top, military wise.

https://defence.pk/threads/texas-support-for-hillary-clinton.442404/#post-8529296

 

[Shotgunner51]

we can't use nukes because it's not profitable for the MIC, why use a few nukes to destroy or scare the enemy into submission, when you can spend a trillion dollars on weapons and personnel over 10 years.

Exactly!

 

[Hellfire]

In Pakistan, you have the laws, but if military wants to do it, no one's gonna stop it.

Think hard on that - and then re-post. Are you sure about that?

 

[Allen Iverson]

Whats the big deal.
There are number of countries that says it all the time.
Take pakistan for example.

I don't know why people have rated this post negative.?? Strange..

 

[Paksanity]

I don't know why people have rated this post negative.?? Strange..

Because it reeks of hatred and lies.

 

[Allen Iverson]

Because it reeks of hatred and lies.

I don't think so.. He just quoted what the Pakistani defence establishment claims time and again whenever there is a tense situation in the border.. Are you saying that it is a lie..?? I don't see any hatred in the post.. You sir, have a peculiar sense of observing things, which are invisible for naked eyes..

@neem456, let it go man.. Negative ratings here doesn't mean that you are robbed of your ancestral property.. We are all witnessing what happened here.. No need to prove yourself innocent to someone who will never heed to your plea.. Just relax and move on.. If possible, press ignore button to few around here..

 

[Paksanity]

I don't think so.. He just quoted what the Pakistani defence establishment claims time and again whenever there is a tense situation in the border.. Are you saying that it is a lie..?? I don't see any hatred in the post.. You sir, have a peculiar sense of observing things, which are invisible for naked eyes..

@neem456, let it go man.. Negative ratings here doesn't mean that you are robbed of your ancestral property.. We are all witnessing what happened here.. No need to prove yourself innocent to someone who will never heed to your plea.. Just relax and move on.. If possible, press ignore button to few around here..

Pakistan's stance has always been of defending against aggression. You can leave the forum if you feel so. Nobody dragged you Indians to come here.