No flats for Muslims, says Bandra to saviour of Indians stuck in Kuwait

[Iggy]

Well I was denied housing many times because I was a bachelor

 

[bornmoron]

MUMBAI: In September 1990, Captain Zainul Abidin Juvale, master of a cargo vessel calledMV Safeer, became master of the fate of 722Indians who sailed out with him from Kuwait to Dubai. Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's troops had invaded Kuwait and the Indians there were stranded for over a month.

Tanweer Khalfay, one of the passengers on Juvale's vessel, had told TOI (September 12, 1990): "The BBC team that covered our arrival in Dubai called him [Juvale] a hero, but we don't need foreigners to tell us that."

For over a month now, Juvale has been house-hunting in Bandra (W), but he is unable to buy a flat when he likes one.

The brokers have frankly told him that the societies where he has shown interest have an unwritten rule: not to rent or sell flats to Muslims.

"Nobody asked me my religion when I risked my life to rescue fellow Indians who faced starvation and death in Kuwait," says Juvale. "Now I am being made aware of my Muslim identity."

Juvale, whose family originally comes from the Konkan, proudly says that he is a Maharashtrian. His grandfather, Fakir Mohamed Juvale, was the first Indian captain in the merchant navy and was instrumental in opening the first nautical school in the country in 1923. He was awarded the Padma Shri in 1981.

"My grandfather's autobiography was first published in Marathi," says Juvale. "I never thought that my own city, Mumbai, and especially Bandra, which I call the most cosmopolitan area in the city, would shut its doors on me."

For a Muslim, finding a home outside a Muslim ghetto is a real problem in the city. Seven years ago, Zafar Sareshwala, a businessman from Ahmedabad who had settled in England after the 2002 riots, moved to the city and underwent a similar experience. "I must have seen more than a dozen flats and everywhere I was told that they were not for Muslims," says he.

A veteran broker who took TOI reporters around a 2-BHK sea-facing flat in Pali Naka, Bandra, says he no longer takes prospective buyers to societies which might discriminate against Muslims.

He says he now takes clients only to buildings with "cosmopolitan mindsets".

Amir Rizvi, who started a 'Flats Without Brokers' page on Facebook in 2007 says there is segregation in the city, which is further perpetuated by real estate brokers.

"They take potential clients to areas that have been unofficially earmarked for Muslims," says Rizvi. "Millat Nagar near Lokhandwala, pockets in Bandra (west), Jogeshwari, [and outside the city] Mira Road, Kalyan, Mumbra and Bhiwandi have come up as Muslim areas."

Now, rental advertisements seeking tenants read like those put up in matrimonial columns.

"Everything is mentioned, including caste, creed, skin colour, work timings and marital status," says Rizvi. "It is as if you are not looking for a tenant but a life partner."

It did not surprise Rizvi when a broker put up an advertisement saying 'No Muslims' on a property website. Though the advertisement was withdrawn after public protests and the website apologized for allowing it to be uploaded, the reality has not changed.
No flats for Muslims, says Bandra to saviour of Indians stuck in Kuwait - The Times of India

 

[dray]

@Zarvan There are plenty of Muslims residing in Mumbai, You may not be knowing common Muslims, but you must be aware of many famous Muslims living in Mumbai. There are some residential societies that restrict members based on many factors, religion could be one of them, maybe the residential societies that are preventing Muslims, are preventing all non-veg eaters also. You will also find Muslim residential societies preventing other religions to stay with them, then there are Persi societies, Gujrati Societies, Marwari societies, Sindhi societies, definitely many Vegetarian societies, and even Chartered Accountants societies!! From my personal experience I can tell you that many house owners in Delhi won't rent a flat/house to a non-veg eater.
There are people who would like to live with like-minded people, instead of cribbing about it just let them live the way they feel happy, there are plenty of other options.

 

[Kloitra]

Of course its your property & you can do whatever you want with it, but if I scream at you for stepping on my lawn & willing to call the cop for it that will make me look like an asshole.

Non-Vegetarian? Usually most owner will just check criminal record.

Generally people outside India have hard time understanding this, but this is a big concern in India. Most vegetarians would not want to live in a place where they can smell their neighbour cooking meat.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Generally people outside India have hard time understanding this, but this is a big concern in India. Most vegetarians would not want to live in a place where they can smell their neighbour cooking meat.

That's why I said; "only in India."

 

[Aka123]

@Zarvan ap Kay mullah bhaiyon nay itna zeher phela diya hai Kay "" in khi Sunnis don't rent to shia's and vice versa it's absolutely forbidden .. What are your thoughts ??

I was wondering, how come you get -15 points ? As per me you are one of the most sensible posters!!

 

[pak-marine]

Mr its not Mullah ALLAH itself hast old kafirs will not be friends of Muslims they are friend of each other and will be always against Muslims

Lol yeah right ok to take money and aid from kafir or work for them , go live I. Their countries .. But when it comes to you Just don't rent your houses

 

[HariPrasad]

Of course its your property & you can do whatever you want with it, but if I scream at you for stepping on my lawn & willing to call the cop for it that will make me look like an asshole.

Non-Vegetarian? Usually most owner will just check criminal record.

Your analogy has flaws.

Reason is very simple. We do not want non veg to be cooked in our sacred kitchen. We can not allow the organ of a killed animal to be cooked in our kitchen. It is a sin.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I was wondering, how come you get -15 points ? As per me you are one of the most sensible posters!!

We live in a strange world, my friend.

Reason is very simple. We do not want non veg to be cooked in our sacred kitchen. We can not allow the organ of a killed animal to be cooked in our kitchen. It is a sin.

You don't need to justify. It is your wish. If I rent my house, I will only rent it to hot ladies(just saying for example). My house, my choice. Period.

 

[Zarvan]

Lol yeah right ok to take money and aid from kafir or work for them , go live I. Their countries .. But when it comes to you Just don't rent your houses

Who said we can't rent houses to them what I said what on country level or as Muslim state dealing with Non Muslim state on personal level

 

[pak-marine]

I was wondering, how come you get -15 points ? As per me you are one of the most sensible posters!!

Thanks for the compliment , I guess for some my comments are insane

 

[Mugwop]

Man muslims can be vegetarians as well.You can find plenty in .
Not allowing them flats because of what they eat and kuwait doesn't make sense.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Your analogy has flaws.

Reason is very simple. We do not want non veg to be cooked in our sacred kitchen. We can not allow the organ of a killed animal to be cooked in our kitchen. It is a sin.

This analogy is apt. You haven't meet enough crotchety old man who thinks everything of his lawn. Same shit. You don't want your stuff to be touch by another so you act assholey.

 

[dray]

I was wondering, how come you get -15 points ? As per me you are one of the most sensible posters!!

That's why he got it.

 

[HariPrasad]

This analogy is apt. You haven't meet enough crotchety old man who thinks everything of his lawn. Same shit. You don't want your stuff to be touch by another so you act assholey.

Your mind is not worth understanding some concepts and belief. Enjoy!!!!!

I rest my case here.

Man muslims can be vegetarians as well.You can find plenty in .
Not allowing them flats because of what they eat and kuwait doesn't make sense.

Hey what is your Avatar? I see same picture as avatar in many Pakistani posters.

That's why he got it.

Absolutely right. If you are not among the crowd, You will face problem. He has got negative points for writing truth.