No Doubt! Caliphate will be back again :)

[Safriz]

Look Muzloums - instead of telling me why a person like me is x or y or z - just deal with the objection I raise - deal with Hadith being suspect - if you can deal with that in a satisfactory manner then, well, I will have to reconsider

There comes a point when a person cannot be reasoned with anymore and has to be asked to STFU.

On your question....NO much part of islam cannot be proved on a court case pattern.
But muslims beleive in Quran and Hadith and the rest of Islam BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

Freedom of choice at its best...Muslims choose to believe without proof,and choose not to have any proof...their beleif is proof enough for them.

 

[muse]

Alright - not a single taker - your entire argument is I'm bad and awful for not accepting your little hadith fetish - is that reasonable, do you guys ever convince people?? Is it because you have great knowledge?? or just little brain?

 

[Green Bullet]

For instance, hbow many Hadith do Wahabi accept?

First of all I am not a wahabi...again with your persumptions.

how many hadith are there

There is something called..Google, honestly you must be ancient as you seem so outdated.

What this tells us is that hadith are suspect and only a handful can satisfy claims on their veracity

Most of the Hadeith are authentic as majority of them came from Hazrat Aisha, and she spent a lot of time with the Prophet (PBUH).

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

^Have you been outwitted so completely in this discussion that you had to divert it to a totally different topic?

Tell m, are you a scholar of the sciences of the tradition of the aHadiith? Otherwise why are we even talking?

 

[mikkix]

can i ask a question to people like mose??
Do you have any problem with Khilafat???
If yes then why??
if you dont believe in ahadeeth ok leave the ahadeeth for the sake of your satisfaction, if a person want khilafat back then what is your problem. you carry on living in uk. you being a democratic allow others to live the way they want.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Actually ppl like u try to create doubts and i stated earlier ppl alike u were there from the beginning of islam but Alhumdulillah this deen have spread and what the Prophet PBUH told his companions became a reality

u just go and read quran and do 3sr prayer with six raka'a actually i don't mind if u dbl them lol

TARIQ

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Alright - not a single taker -... Is it because you have great knowledge?? or just little brain?

Option c): great patience, and tolerance of the heedless yet stubborn child

 

[kobiraaz]

You are not getting the point here. Like I said, the Prophet did not say anything on his own after his prophethood. He taught what he was revealed by Allah Almighty. So yes all what he said was the word of Allah after he became Prophet hence it was sacred.



There is a proper mechanism established to judge the authenticity of hadiths. You can do a little research on it and you will know the criteria of an authentic and unauthentic hadiths. Hadith were recorded by the several companions of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) including his wife and Ume- almomineen Hazrat Ayesha (R.A) and they continue to guide muslims till now. There are 4 major and authentic books of Hadiths if I am not wrong which include all Hadiths for which there was consensus among muslim scholars of that time.

6. They are called Siah Sittah. You have to trust them.. Do not listen to others who call themselves muslim and tries to create confusion and division..... They are called Munafiq...

 

[VelocuR]

I keep wondering why billions Muslims today and in Pakistan are behaving like moaning and greedy instead smart and act intelligent.

i.e Syria Assad (Muslim) killing Muslims people and other Arab revolutions and in Pakistan/Karachi, we did same bad things to kill them for no reasons. Today we witness millions Muslims are died by other Muslims, sect btw Sunni and Shia fought everyday. What a joke?

Well, I remember in Quran, it is saying, the end of the days would be is Muslims killing own Muslims or fighting each other while continuing moaning, greedy, and selfish.

No, Caliphate will not be back at all by looking the current situation today deeply divided among all Muslim countries.

 

[muse]

^Have you been outwitted so completely in this discussion that you had to divert it to a totally different topic?

Tell m, are you a scholar of the sciences of the tradition of the aHadiith? Otherwise why are we even talking?

No to both -- but since you are just a better person and more learned lets see if you can deal with the suspect quality of hadith and while you are doing it lets see just what kind of person it is that cannot accept that hadith are suspect

Most of the Hadeith are authentic as majority of them came from Hazrat Aisha, and she spent a lot of time with the Prophet (PBUH).

Indeed, so the child bride is our source - and the hadith that started this thread, is that from her???

And you say most of the hadith from Ayesha are authentic, so does that mean that those that are not are suspect??? Just discuss the issue - I know I'm awful and bad and it makes you feel better to think that of me - but explain

 

[Green Bullet]

Look Muzloums - instead of telling me why a person like me is x or y or z - just deal with the objection I raise - deal with Hadith being suspect - if you can deal with that in a satisfactory manner then, well, I will have to reconsider

Again learn to spell, honestly even a council boy can do much better. What a shameful Pakistani you are, as you live in England yet cannot spell properly.....disgraceful.

 

[Mani2020]

Look Muzloums - instead of telling me why a person like me is x or y or z - just deal with the objection I raise - deal with Hadith being suspect - if you can deal with that in a satisfactory manner then, well, I will have to reconsider

He don't even know the spellings of muslim , let alone rest

 

[muse]

Actually ppl like u try to create doubts and i stated earlier ppl alike u were there from the beginning of islam but Alhumdulillah this deen have spread and what the Prophet PBUH told his companions became a reality

u just go and read quran and do 3sr prayer with six raka'a actually i don't mind if u dbl them lol

TARIQ

You so doubt your special knowledge that a no one like me can shake you up? All you have are old formula and you wonder why muslims are in a rut?

 

[Mani2020]

No to both -- but since you are just a better person and more learned lets see if you can deal with the suspect quality of hadith and while you are doing it lets see just what kind of person it is that cannot accept that hadith are suspect




Indeed, so the child bride is our source - and the hadith that started this thread, is that from her???

And you say most of the hadith from Ayesha are authentic, so does that mean that those that are not are suspect??? Just discuss the issue - I know I'm awful and bad and it makes you feel better to think that of me - but explain

Look at this pathetic man , he has no respect what so ever for the wife of beloved Prophet (PBUH), neither he has used Hazrat nor R.A

 

[Safriz]

No to both -- but since you are just a better person and more learned lets see if you can deal with the suspect quality of hadith and while you are doing it lets see just what kind of person it is that cannot accept that hadith are suspect




Indeed, so the child bride is our source - and the hadith that started this thread, is that from her???

And you say most of the hadith from Ayesha are authentic, so does that mean that those that are not are suspect??? Just discuss the issue - I know I'm awful and bad and it makes you feel better to think that of me - but explain

yes the child bride is our source and we respect Her from the bottom of our hearts as Ummul Momineen...Now please jog off before you derail the thread any further..
As they say...Heters gona hate...
People like you will find bad things in all sources and icons/Personalities of isla...suits you well.