No Denial by ISPR or Pak Army About Alleged Escape of Ehsanullah Ehsan

[pakpride00090]

The Turks would send him back without any issues if the govt requested it.

The only way the 'fleeing to Turkey' story might be a feasible one is if he's been relocated there on purpose as part of the deal with him on his surrender. Given that he turned on the TTP, he and his family are always going to be a target in Pakistan for terrorists. Additionally, politically it's hard to explain the fact that he's barely under 'house arrest', though many States have entered into such deals with HVT's to obtain intel that has been of great benefit. The goal might have been to quietly remove him from Pakistan and someone leaked the info.

All just speculation, the obvious answer in this case (that he escaped) doesn't really seem the simplest one because I imagine his former organization is not going to look kindly upon him for turning on them. So is he going to trust that the TTP will protect him and his family after his betrayal or is he planning on being on the run for the rest of his life from both the Pakistani State and the TTP?

You know ... I find it weird that he would go to Turkey...You are right. Perhaps he went there as part of deal because if that is not the case , he can easily be brought back if GOP requests.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

My friend there are many possibilities but him escaping to turkey is not one of them.

Secondly there video must have his voice which is not. Just compare the 2 videos one allegedly released saying that he escaped and second his confession and see if voice is same? It is not. Forget voice even the accent is different.

I added some more thoughts on the escape idea in my previous post. I agree, it doesn't make sense. Ahsanullah Ahsan knows better than anyone how brutal the TTP was to alleged spies/traitors. Is he really going to risk running away and going into hiding anywhere in Afghanistan-Pakistan with both the TTP and the Pakistani State hunting him?

 

[BHarwana]

I added some more thoughts on the escape idea in my previous post. I agree, it doesn't make sense. Ahsanullah Ahsan knows better than anyone how brutal the TTP was to alleged spies/traitors. Is he really going to risk running away and going into hiding anywhere in Afghanistan-Pakistan with both the TTP and the Pakistani State hunting him?

Agreed
Here please think this side as well.

Hello Pakistan I am Ehsan ullah Ehsan. I have escaped to turkey now ask Erdogan and come get me back. The bollywood director behind this video is really bad. They should have used at least used yash Chopra production.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

If he is released as part of the deal or on purpose than ispr will never issue a statement. Why would they. They are not required to give explanations on every policy change.

 

[Zibago]

Until there is a denial I am going to be a bit skeptical the silence is deafening

https://twitter.com/x/status/1225774594180747267

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Pakistanis are the most naive and wishful thinkers of this world. In their false insecurities and sweet promises, Pakistani quam has no realization of what has befallen upon them.

My brothers, please wake up now and see for yourself the monsters that you have created. The Army or huquumat have no interest in safeguarding Pakistani interests or solving the Kashmir dispute, because if this happens then they will lose importance and power. Just out of an exaggerated fear of the enemy in the east (who by the way has never attacked you except in 1971, which has its own genuine basis). Please question and undo the reckless brainwashing you have been subjected to. Even the Pakistani army official website blatantly lies and maintains the false stories which its own leaders and people have accepted to be fabricated. You still celebrate Defence day for defending yourself in a war that you started?

Please try to inquire for yourself, what is the standard of living of Indian army generals, majors, etc? After retirement what happens to them? How much land do they own and how many of them have children or family who live abroad? How many Indian army people move abroad after retirement and how many can afford prime land or luxury cars? In Pakistan, all the premium and areas have something to do with the army. Its the fastest way to become rich and powerful. Why is Pakistani army the only army that operates several businesses and involves itself in so many civilian affairs? All your leaders are just puppets of the army and as soon as they start to create problems they are conveniently replaced.

The economy is literally on a ventilator and the slightest breeze can collapse it, but the armed forces are making no sacrifices. There is no economic development or growth in Pakistan and the Chinese who share nothing in common with you are buying your country and people for dollars while they perform the cruelest atrocities against your muslim brothers in xinjiang. It is a pittance that you need to invite Chinese labors to build roads and railways and energy systems for you while your leader just flies around the world hitchhiking jets from the ummah and talking about Kashmir while everyone laughs behind his back. Ghazwa e hind has already happened and Islam already prevailed (and still prevails) in India. Forget about helping Kashmiris, first help your own kids in Wuhan who are stuck there without any form of assistance, food or money from the Chinese or the Pakistani government. Pakistani govt is saying that according to hadith its better to leave them, but where is evidence that they got even 1 roti or 1 dollar in assistance? The Chinese gave them 1 thermometer and mask to live out this quarantine and the Pakistani embassy tells them maut idhar aaye ya Pakistan me, ek hi baat hai.

Please stop worrying about India, Kashmir, etc and look at the real enemies who are living among you.

Ok now that you have taken a shit, so **** off.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pakistanis are the most naive and wishful thinkers of this world. In their false insecurities and sweet promises, Pakistani quam has no realization of what has befallen upon them.

My brothers, please wake up now and see for yourself the monsters that you have created. The Army or huquumat have no interest in safeguarding Pakistani interests or solving the Kashmir dispute, because if this happens then they will lose importance and power. Just out of an exaggerated fear of the enemy in the east (who by the way has never attacked you except in 1971, which has its own genuine basis). Please question and undo the reckless brainwashing you have been subjected to. Even the Pakistani army official website blatantly lies and maintains the false stories which its own leaders and people have accepted to be fabricated. You still celebrate Defence day for defending yourself in a war that you started?

Please try to inquire for yourself, what is the standard of living of Indian army generals, majors, etc? After retirement what happens to them? How much land do they own and how many of them have children or family who live abroad? How many Indian army people move abroad after retirement and how many can afford prime land or luxury cars? In Pakistan, all the premium and areas have something to do with the army. Its the fastest way to become rich and powerful. Why is Pakistani army the only army that operates several businesses and involves itself in so many civilian affairs? All your leaders are just puppets of the army and as soon as they start to create problems they are conveniently replaced.

The economy is literally on a ventilator and the slightest breeze can collapse it, but the armed forces are making no sacrifices. There is no economic development or growth in Pakistan and the Chinese who share nothing in common with you are buying your country and people for dollars while they perform the cruelest atrocities against your muslim brothers in xinjiang. It is a pittance that you need to invite Chinese labors to build roads and railways and energy systems for you while your leader just flies around the world hitchhiking jets from the ummah and talking about Kashmir while everyone laughs behind his back. Ghazwa e hind has already happened and Islam already prevailed (and still prevails) in India. Forget about helping Kashmiris, first help your own kids in Wuhan who are stuck there without any form of assistance, food or money from the Chinese or the Pakistani government. Pakistani govt is saying that according to hadith its better to leave them, but where is evidence that they got even 1 roti or 1 dollar in assistance? The Chinese gave them 1 thermometer and mask to live out this quarantine and the Pakistani embassy tells them maut idhar aaye ya Pakistan me, ek hi baat hai.

Please stop worrying about India, Kashmir, etc and look at the real enemies who are living among you.

Thanks for the verbose reiteration of Indian BS.

 

[Ghost 125]

Pakistanis are the most naive and wishful thinkers of this world. In their false insecurities and sweet promises, Pakistani quam has no realization of what has befallen upon them.

My brothers, please wake up now and see for yourself the monsters that you have created. The Army or huquumat have no interest in safeguarding Pakistani interests or solving the Kashmir dispute, because if this happens then they will lose importance and power. Just out of an exaggerated fear of the enemy in the east (who by the way has never attacked you except in 1971, which has its own genuine basis). Please question and undo the reckless brainwashing you have been subjected to. Even the Pakistani army official website blatantly lies and maintains the false stories which its own leaders and people have accepted to be fabricated. Dont you still celebrate Defence day for defending yourself in a war that you started? The reason 1965 happened was because India was the weakest it would ever be and Pakistan felt this is the best time to strike, and take Kashmir. If you could not fight inn 1965 and Indian army crossed over, then what are the odds now? Nuclear war? If you really think it's worth murdering a billion people because you dont have the basis or strength to take Kashmir forcefully, then please do it now and stop whining.

Please try to inquire for yourself, what is the standard of living of Indian army generals, majors, etc? After retirement what happens to them? How much land do they own and how many of them have children or family who live abroad? How many Indian army people move abroad after retirement and how many can afford prime land or luxury cars? In Pakistan, all the premium and areas have something to do with the army. Its the fastest way to become rich and powerful. Why is Pakistani army the only army that operates several businesses and involves itself in so many civilian affairs? All your leaders are just puppets of the army and as soon as they start to create problems they are conveniently replaced.

The economy is literally on a ventilator and the slightest breeze can collapse it, but the armed forces are making no sacrifices. There is no economic development or growth in Pakistan and the Chinese who share nothing in common with you are buying your country and people for dollars while they perform the cruelest atrocities against your muslim brothers in xinjiang. It is a pittance that you need to invite Chinese labors to build roads and railways and energy systems for you while your leader just flies around the world hitchhiking jets from the ummah and talking about Kashmir while everyone laughs behind his back. Ghazwa e hind has already happened and Islam already prevailed (and still prevails) in India. Forget about helping Kashmiris, first help your own kids in Wuhan who are stuck there without any form of assistance, food or money from the Chinese or the Pakistani government. Pakistani govt is saying that according to hadith its better to leave them, but where is evidence that they got even 1 roti or 1 dollar in assistance? The Chinese gave them 1 thermometer and mask to live out this quarantine and the Pakistani embassy tells them maut idhar aaye ya Pakistan me, ek hi baat hai.

Please stop worrying about India, Kashmir, etc and look at the real enemies who are living among you.

ohh great we should disband our army and get rid of our govt,,,hand over Pakistan to RSS... go to hell indiot

 

[Avatar]

Thanks for the verbose reiteration of Indian BS.

If what I am saying is false then why dont you contradict me? I have nothing against you Pakistani people because I dont even know you. I have made many friends around the world who are Pakistani and we usually shared a good friendship, shared meals and even cooked together. I am only against the elements that are trying to manipulate you into making you feel that India is such a big threat for you. Even small and weak neighbours like Nepal or Sri Lanka face no threat from India, we have no obsession and want to have no part of Pakistan. Even if we really wanted to become one country, it is simply not worth it anymore because the population so radicalized it will only cause more trouble. Bangladesh has done and is on track to becoming what war-obsessed Pakistan could not.

 

[pakpride00090]

Pakistanis are the most naive and wishful thinkers of this world. In their false insecurities and sweet promises, Pakistani quam has no realization of what has befallen upon them.

My brothers, please wake up now and see for yourself the monsters that you have created. The Army or huquumat have no interest in safeguarding Pakistani interests or solving the Kashmir dispute, because if this happens then they will lose importance and power. Just out of an exaggerated fear of the enemy in the east (who by the way has never attacked you except in 1971, which has its own genuine basis). Please question and undo the reckless brainwashing you have been subjected to. Even the Pakistani army official website blatantly lies and maintains the false stories which its own leaders and people have accepted to be fabricated. Dont you still celebrate Defence day for defending yourself in a war that you started? The reason 1965 happened was because India was the weakest it would ever be and Pakistan felt this is the best time to strike, and take Kashmir. If you could not fight inn 1965 and Indian army crossed over, then what are the odds now? Nuclear war? If you really think it's worth murdering a billion people because you dont have the basis or strength to take Kashmir forcefully, then please do it now and stop whining.

Please try to inquire for yourself, what is the standard of living of Indian army generals, majors, etc? After retirement what happens to them? How much land do they own and how many of them have children or family who live abroad? How many Indian army people move abroad after retirement and how many can afford prime land or luxury cars? In Pakistan, all the premium and areas have something to do with the army. Its the fastest way to become rich and powerful. Why is Pakistani army the only army that operates several businesses and involves itself in so many civilian affairs? All your leaders are just puppets of the army and as soon as they start to create problems they are conveniently replaced.

The economy is literally on a ventilator and the slightest breeze can collapse it, but the armed forces are making no sacrifices. There is no economic development or growth in Pakistan and the Chinese who share nothing in common with you are buying your country and people for dollars while they perform the cruelest atrocities against your muslim brothers in xinjiang. It is a pittance that you need to invite Chinese labors to build roads and railways and energy systems for you while your leader just flies around the world hitchhiking jets from the ummah and talking about Kashmir while everyone laughs behind his back. Ghazwa e hind has already happened and Islam already prevailed (and still prevails) in India. Forget about helping Kashmiris, first help your own kids in Wuhan who are stuck there without any form of assistance, food or money from the Chinese or the Pakistani government. Pakistani govt is saying that according to hadith its better to leave them, but where is evidence that they got even 1 roti or 1 dollar in assistance? The Chinese gave them 1 thermometer and mask to live out this quarantine and the Pakistani embassy tells them maut idhar aaye ya Pakistan me, ek hi baat hai.

Please stop worrying about India, Kashmir, etc and look at the real enemies who are living among you.

Lol... Indian popped as expected.

Listen piss drinker. We may criticize the army have internal difference of opinion but one thing is certain , you will always be considered an enemy state. You saw an opportunity to do propaganda and used it.

Dream on dirt bag.

Edit ; reported the post as troll and not in line with the topic at hand.

@waz @The Eagle

 

[Avatar]

Lol... Indian popped as expected.

Listen piss drinker. We may criticize the army have internal difference of opinion but one thing is certain , you will always be considered an enemy state. You saw an opportunity to do propaganda and used it.

Dream on dirt bag.

Edit ; reported the post as troll and not in line with the topic at hand.

@waz @The Eagle

Resorting to insults is the usual strategy where intellect gives way. If I am wrong then prove me wrong with facts that can be proven by neutral sources.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

If what I am saying is false then why dont you contradict me? I have nothing against you Pakistani people because I dont even know you. I have made many friends around the world who are Pakistani and we usually shared a good friendship, shared meals and even cooked together. I am only against the elements that are trying to manipulate you into making you feel that India is such a big threat for you. Even small and weak neighbours like Nepal or Sri Lanka face no threat from India, we have no obsession and want to have no part of Pakistan. Even if we really wanted to become one country, it is simply not worth it anymore because the population so radicalized it will only cause more trouble. Bangladesh has done and is on track to becoming what war-obsessed Pakistan could not.

If, after everything your current government has said and done and claims it WILL do, after everything that happened in East Pakistan, after everything that has happened in terms of India forcibly occupying Junagadh and refusing to implement the UNSC Resolutions on J&K, you still don't understand why everything you said is 'false', then my explaining it will make no difference.

If you truly have no enmity with Pakistan, then encourage the Indian government to allow a UN conducted plebiscite in J&K to let the Kashmiris decide between India, Pakistan or independence.

 

[pakpride00090]

Resorting to insults is the usual strategy where intellect gives way. If I am wrong then prove me wrong with facts that can be proven by neutral sources.

It is a wastage of time and resource to argue with a gangu. Personally experienced so I will not take the bait.

You are just here to find opportunities to spread your propaganda. I have reported your post and it will be dealt with very soon.

 

[sparten]

I agree if the Turkey bit is true, and thats a big if, then the departure would have been under a deal.
However, either he had reneged on it or worse been compromised.

 

[Rafi]

If what I am saying is false then why dont you contradict me? I have nothing against you Pakistani people because I dont even know you. I have made many friends around the world who are Pakistani and we usually shared a good friendship, shared meals and even cooked together. I am only against the elements that are trying to manipulate you into making you feel that India is such a big threat for you. Even small and weak neighbours like Nepal or Sri Lanka face no threat from India, we have no obsession and want to have no part of Pakistan. Even if we really wanted to become one country, it is simply not worth it anymore because the population so radicalized it will only cause more trouble. Bangladesh has done and is on track to becoming what war-obsessed Pakistan could not.

Go and kiss your bharat matas behind.