'No country can take Pakistan's position': foreign ministers of UAE, KSA

[S.Y.A]

Stop wasting time with these mofos. Start seriously looking into Pakistan-Turkey-Malaysia grouping. These two are proper industrial nations, Pakistan can only benefit.

It has come to a point of diminishing returns. Not worth the energy and efforts Pakistan puts into maintaining this so called relationship with GCC.

And you will of course pay back the billions that they have given to Paksitan over the years? and that money wasnt a loan. and of course you will pay them back for financing your nuke program?

If by doing something means war or attack India , than you are wrong ..

So you are saying that India will withdraw and hold a referendum there peacefully? that india will handover kashmir on a plate?

 

[YeBeWarned]

So you are saying that India will withdraw and hold a referendum there peacefully? that india will handover kashmir on a plate?

No, but there is no Military solution to this issue as well, any conflict will eventually end up in a stalemate and cease fire will be called, than the International community will ask both parties to end the conflict, go back to old Positions of LoC, and there you go ... You are right where you started

 

[S.Y.A]

No, but there is no Military solution to this issue as well, any conflict will eventually end up in a stalemate and cease fire will be called, than the International community will ask both parties to end the conflict, go back to old Positions of LoC, and there you go ... You are right where you started

Then what is the use of measures like tweeting and "expressing solidarity" and "raising the issue" internationally? IK and PTI should just admit that there is nothing we can do, and stop wasting ours and their time, and instead focus on actually running the govt.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Then what is the use of measures like tweeting and "expressing solidarity" and "raising the issue" internationally? IK and PTI should just admit that there is nothing we can do, and stop wasting ours and their time, and instead focus on actually running the govt.

Wrong, Diplomacy can achieve which a Military option can't, we internationalize the Kashmir issue, and because of the same Diplomacy the whole world now talking about Kashmir and major International news channels cover it , and call India for their barbaric behavior, if Pakistan send its forces on 6th of August a day after India revoke J&K status, than India will push us back, and push the narrative that Pakistan is the aggressor who use military cover to infiltrate Terrorists into Kashmir, while the Kashmiri people remain in locked down and even if they are not they would not come out to support Pakistan Physically as we saw that in past wars, India can easily rally the world behind them, asking us if Kashmiri's are not with you what is your problem ? why Attack us ?

 

[The Eagle]

Keep relations and don't just break that easily. Few people are too much naive and emotional or I must say, propaganda victims. In wars and hostilities, even a neutral relationship is a good relationship as compare to have more enemies.

Even if your arm is broken, you just don't cut and throw it away from you while here, we have a bond for many reasons beside Islam.

This visit and such news, has a lot more to do than what's reported.

 

[S.Y.A]

Wrong, Diplomacy can achieve which a Military option can't, we internationalize the Kashmir issue, and because of the same Diplomacy the whole world now talking about Kashmir and major International news channels cover it , and call India for their barbaric behavior, if Pakistan send its forces on 6th of August a day after India revoke J&K status, than India will push us back, and push the narrative that Pakistan is the aggressor who use military cover to infiltrate Terrorists into Kashmir, while the Kashmiri people remain in locked down and even if they are not they would not come out to support Pakistan Physically as we saw that in past wars, India can easily rally the world behind them, asking us if Kashmiri's are not with you what is your problem ? why Attack us ?

And what has this internationalization gained? is Kashmir free? Russian takeover of Crimea was also a huge issue, is it free yet? This world only understands power and force. once the deed is done no one cares.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

And you will of course pay back the billions that they have given to Paksitan over the years? and that money wasnt a loan. and of course you will pay them back for financing your nuke program?

There are no free lunches. We provided them security. Stop your non sensical argument.

Time to freeze where things are and start looking for new possibilities elsewhere.

 

[S.Y.A]

Nothing are no free lunches. We provided them security. Stop your non sensical argument.

Time to freeze where things are and start looking for new possibilities elsewhere.

what security? they had the US for that. Stop overestimating yourself.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

what security? they had the US for that. Stop overestimating yourself.

Educate yourself. We had unwritten pact with them to provide nuke umbrella against unspecified threat, which ofcourse is not Iran.

 

[YeBeWarned]

And what has this internationalization gained? is Kashmir free? Russian takeover of Crimea was also a huge issue, is it free yet? This world only understands power and force. once the deed is done no one cares.

The Kashmiri's don't want complete freedom from India so who's freedom you are talking about here ? second , The world understand power yes, but are you USA ? China ? Russia ? do you have a Army strong as them ? logistics ? Chain of Command ? economy ? UN standing ? UNSC seat ? your country is fighting WOT for almost 2 decades, your economy is scattered , your public is divided , your Army did not think they can take on India (if they do they would have attacked weeks ago) , you have no standing in UN ..

We tried in 1947, we took half and have to agree on cease fire and go back to borders , we repeat in 1965 war happened and eventually we were almost out of ammo and have to agree to cease fire and go back to old borders , in 1999 we did it again and we were humiliated on International level , have to pull back leaving our dead .. so you want to do it again and believe this time the results will be different ? Why ?

 

[Trango Towers]

Pakistan simply needs to stop backstabbing the rich Arab nations.

First, Pakistan secretly provided uranium enrichment blue prints to Iran (Arabia's existential threat).

Second, Pakistan offered to "mediate" between Arabs and terrorist Houthis who have fired around hundred ballistic missiles towards Saudi Arabia so far.

How would Pakistanis feel if Arabs helped India with their nuclear weapons program and offered to "mediate" between Pakistan and anti-Pakistan terrorists?

So mediation is backstabbing.
And yes arabs have backstabbed Pakistan . Were you asleep with the terrorist modi getting medals is UAE and Bahrain

Heck we even went to war with India in 1965 and 1999.. Did kashmiris come out in open and supported us ?

Kashmiris felt that baniyas will always be on their side and their future is secure with them. Now that 370 is revoked , they are starting to realize their mistakes and now want Pakistan to start a nuclear war with India...

I am still with kashmiri folks but you guys wasted to much time and took Pakistans action in 1965 and 1999 for granted.



Heck we even went to war with India in 1965 and 1999.. Did kashmiris come out in open and supported us ?

Kashmiris felt that baniyas will always be on their side and their future is secure with them. Now that 370 is revoked , they are starting to realize their mistakes and now want Pakistan to start a nuclear war with India...

I am still with kashmiri folks but you guys wasted to much time and took Pakistans action in 1965 and 1999 for granted.

That's how I feel

 

[nahtanbob]

Stop talking and start doing.

What the arabs say...
We are with pakistan

What the arabs do
Modi here is a medal

What is the big deal about medal to Mr Modi ?
I have a few lying in my storage closets

Educate yourself. We had unwritten pact with them to provide nuke umbrella against unspecified threat, which ofcourse is not Iran.

Why would USA allow anyone to lay a hand on Saudi Arabia or UAE ?

 

[Trango Towers]

What is the big deal about medal to Mr Modi ?
I have a few lying in my storage closets



Why would USA allow anyone to lay a hand on Saudi Arabia or UAE ?

USA just has interests and when their interest is gone the nation in question doesnt matter.

Re medal....I bet your are of the same value as modi. Hope fully but not a chai wala terrorist

 

[nahtanbob]

USA just has interests and when their interest is gone the nation in question doesnt matter.

Re medal....I bet your are of the same value as modi. Hope fully but not a chai wala terrorist

as long as Saudi Arabia and UAE have oil America will be around
if Pakistanis care about Muslim lives you can start with Somalia

 

[airmarshal]

Its this Arab double speak which is the reason for the loss of their prestige around the world. They dont take a stand and then easily relent and give away their position.