No AFSPA in Naxal areas as rebels are Hindus, says dad of dead trooper

[SarthakGanguly]

Thats comforting for an Indian mind im sure.

Comforting is not the right word.

Except for the Indian nationalists and defence enthusiasts, Indians don't bother about Pakistan at all. Except for cricket matches and Atif Aslam. That's where Pakistan starts and ends for us. We have moved far away from the emotional stuff that happened before. Some people in Punjab, some intellectual people - and that's about it.

 

[Koovie]

13 dead soldiers in one engagement
76 killed and de-armed in an unceremonious fashion a few years back.

they bomb train stations, bomb cities, bomb markets, kill anyone that goes against them and their marxist agenda.....Their presence is VAST, encompassing almost all of india's troubled northeast....but india instead imposes AFSPA on occupied Kashmir where even the hardliner anti-india seperatists are un-armed. A land which isnt even a state of india, or a part of india.


bharti logic

The number of soldiers killed by Naxals is 0. You must be talking about the Central Reserve Police Force.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You can understand it however you feel 'comfortable' my Indian friend. No one is going to deny the American or Saudi support. It was a great effort and entire Muslim world was behind us. We would have fought and killed Russians even if we had to do that with stones and muskets!

After your last statement it is safe to deduce that a meaningfull rational discussion is not on the cards.

 

[Kompromat]

Forgiven.

I also wish there was a river of fire between us. Given a chance I would be satisfied with an artificial canal between us and no diplomatic recognition for each other. That's what should be, for our mutual benefit. A partition is made for a reason, not for Aman ki Tamasha.
Your complaints regarding UN is not our concern.
But Kashmir is as Indian as Delhi. The only way you are getting even an inch more is by snatching it from the lifeless frozen fingers of India. Not by any other way.

Nope , we will keep following a time tested policy. We will keep transferring it to our generations and will only strike when you are on your knees. Indian Muslims will out breed Hindus just under a 100 years, once that happens, our ambitions will not be to take a frozen land from India.

Comforting is not the right word.

Except for the Indian nationalists and defence enthusiasts, Indians don't bother about Pakistan at all. Except for cricket matches and Atif Aslam. That's where Pakistan starts and ends for us. We have moved far away from the emotional stuff that happened before. Some people in Punjab, some intellectual people - and that's about it.

The way you put it is self serving. I wish what you said was true, but its not. Every day when i visit an Indian newspaper, its busy spewing venom against my country and my people. There never was a 'emotional' side to us, the only relationship we share is that of 'Qisas'.

 

[Bin-Qasim Farooq]

The number of soldiers killed by Naxals is 0. You must be talking about the Central Reserve Police Force.

CRPF people have no importance..?
They represent Indian Govt and they gave life for indian sovereignty.
Shame on yiu indians thats how you Hindus think about the others

 

[surya kiran]

Pakistan is facing an insurgency while you are busy running your mini empire in Kashmir. Its apples and oranges honey. If however you do want to take refuge in your falsehood, be my guest!

Oh pleease! East Pakistan and Baloch were/are your own territory. PA atrocities in East Pakistan and Balochistan are not exactly benevolent. you can hide behind your falsehood and nobody needs to be your guest for proven facts.

he's an Admin of this forum you bleeding fucking idiot

So admins should troll?

 

[Joeblow]

Kashmiris have the right to armed struggle under Geneva convention, we as a rightful belligerent in the conflict have the right to help them. I would say we aren't helping them enough.

Sure but once they take up arms, we're well within our rights to retaliate against them and you. You need to pick a position. Either you're a belligerent or a victim. Pretending to be both is a bit silly.

I'd encourage you to help them. You spent 25 years doing it without any gain. Why stop now?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We don't need to annihilate India, however if that is whats needed then we shall not hesitate. Kashmir will be free, if not today in fifty years time. Sooner or later the Muslims will form over 50% of India's population, we are patient , we can wait.

After trying wars, proxy wars, more wars and even more proxy wars, after resolutions and more civil wars we come down to this - the hope that somehow the Muslim population will reach over 50% and India will break. That's the level of 'impotency'(not implying you or your state) that we are forced to witness. Yeah you wait. Yet you start the sentence with - we shall not hesitate(to annihilate India). After this do you honestly expect any mutual understanding of any sort whatsoever. The thing is simple now - actually very simple.

The Status quo suits us fine. Nominally it might be possible to accept the present LOC as the IB. But if it does not suit you or xyz, do what you can (as you are trying). As we try ours.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

We don't need to annihilate India, however if that is whats needed then we shall not hesitate. Kashmir will be free, if not today in fifty years time. Sooner or later the Muslims will form over 50% of India's population, we are patient , we can wait.

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even if india become 99 % mulsim.. its never gona happen
indian mulsim are wise..
they fighnt for education , light , road, employment not for sect, relgion , blashmy .mukahjir..
i saw indian muslim .. and tell you.. its beyond your imagination ...
that why its incredible india

@Horus
which cliasue/ article of genrva allow armed strugl by which kashmir armed strugle for you and terrosiam for others is justified?
your post no 51 same thread

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Nope , we will keep following a time tested policy. We will keep transferring it to our generations and will only strike when you are on your knees. Indian Muslims will out breed Hindus just under a 100 years, once that happens, our ambitions will not be to take a frozen land from India.



The way you put it is self serving. I wish what you said was true, but its not. Every day when i visit an Indian newspaper, its busy spewing venom against my country and my people. There never was a 'emotional' side to us, the only relationship we share is that of 'Qisas'.

Maybe you read Saamna. Not my problem. Once I read yours, I see hatred for all non Muslims in general. Anyway, you are an exception. Most Pakistanis are more emotional than a thousand SRKs put together.

As for the Muslims breeding Hindus out(apart from being extremely demeaning to Indian Muslims), well, if India becomes an Islamic republic, do you think we will have any good reason to give Kashmir to Pakistan?

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even if india become 99 % mulsim.. its never gona happen
indian mulsim are wise..
they fighnt for education , light , road, employment not for sect, relgion , blashmy .mukahjir..
i saw indian muslim .. and tell you.. its beyond your imagination ...
that why its incredible india

@Horus
which cliasue/ article of genrva allow armed strugl by which kashmir armed strugle for you and terrosiam for others is justified?

Geneva conventions does not allow it and he knows it.

 

[Tshering22]

Can't blame the man. He is aggrieved about his son's death.

But AFSPA has nothing to do with faith. It is an army mechanism to get terrorism under control.

And Naxals are anything but Hindus. They don't believe in any religion, law, respect or humanity.

For 30 years or more they have been massacring the same 'hindu' troops and if they were so innocent, they would have surrendered long ago rather than killing their own countrymen and also innocent unarmed farmers, villagers and civilians from whom they extort money.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Maybe you read Saamna. Not my problem. Once I read yours, I see hatred for all non Muslims in general. Anyway, you are an exception. Most Pakistanis are more emotional than a thousand SRKs put together.

As for the Muslims breeding Hindus out(apart from being extremely demeaning to Indian Muslims), well, if India becomes an Islamic republic, do you think we will have any good reason to give Kashmir to Pakistan?


Geneva conventions does not allow it and he knows it.

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Mulsim india
they may give part to kashmir to pak rest to bagladesh for mulsim ummmah ..
Geneva..
heee. let him come with his reply ...

 

[Levina]

We don't need to annihilate India, however if that is whats needed then we shall not hesitate. Kashmir will be free, if not today in fifty years time.

dream on!!!

Sooner or later the Muslims will form over 50% of India's population, we are patient , we can wait.

Dont sully the muslims of Indian origin.India’s Muslims are numerous, but moderate and do you know why??.
1)Muslims for their own good understand that extremism would prove disruptive for just about everyone.
2) Literacy rates and incomes 're inversely proportional to the anti-govt feeling.And fortunately both literacy and income of muslims 're increasing.
3) A handful of Indian recruits 've joined up with ISIS but because they are from a population of 180m that hardly looks significant.
India’s Muslims 've almost remained moderate, tolerant, quick to condemn religious violence and ready to engage members of other religions. The contrast with the sectarian bloodletting, growing radicalism and deepening conservatism in our neighborhood is striking isnt it?
It is also crucial that India unlike our neighbors and many other countries with large Muslim population has long remained as a robust and lively democracy.

On topic:

“I think the reason behind government not launching a major operation to flush out Naxals is because they are Hindus.

The man "thinks"...or his hypothesis on this incident may not be the real reason for not introducing AFSPA in the region.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Maybe you read Saamna. Not my problem. Once I read yours, I see hatred for all non Muslims in general. Anyway, you are an exception. Most Pakistanis are more emotional than a thousand SRKs put together.

As for the Muslims breeding Hindus out(apart from being extremely demeaning to Indian Muslims), well, if India becomes an Islamic republic, do you think we will have any good reason to give Kashmir to Pakistan?


Geneva conventions does not allow it and he knows it.

To understand Pakistan's obsession with Kashmir, you need to read the Laws of Retaliation. Horus mentioned it above('Qisas'). You will know what you need to know. Mercy for them will vanish.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

We don't need to annihilate India, however if that is whats needed then we shall not hesitate. Kashmir will be free, if not today in fifty years time. Sooner or later the Muslims will form over 50% of India's population, we are patient , we can wait.

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for doing same you need nuke..
if you use it.. globe will be over.. end of human kind
can you take burden of ending it.. ?
just for kashmir land or mulsim bro?