NHK official: Japan will never forget US nuclear attacks

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Yes, and my family has Manchu bloodline who served in the White Banner forces that spearheaded the conquest of China in 1644

And...after that you become Chinese....

 

[Superboy]

And...after that you become Chinese....

Chinese nation evolved over the millenia with great mixing between many peoples. Ditto with Russians, Germans, English etc.

 

[Aepsilons]

Yes, and Manchus were awesome warriors Excellent cavalry.

Indeed. They learned much, mastered the arts of the Jirchen Lords of the North. Manchu Shock Cavalry were feared even in South East Asia, when the Qianlong Emperor (The Great) had waged 4 consecutive wars with the Burmese Overlord, King Hsinyabushin (the Great). Qing Heavy Cavalry also were used against the Sikh Empire. The Manchus expanded the territorial domain of China -- its greatest expanse in its entire history, actually.

 

[terranMarine]

And...after that you become Chinese....

part of the big family where the Han are the majority

 

[Aepsilons]

part of the big family where the Han are the majority

 

[Superboy]

What's with the people who died non-hostile? Perhaps from wounds?

There are more than 7,500 American soldiers still "unaccounted for from the Korean War" as of June 2014.

U.S. Troops Statistics
Source: Dept. of Defense
U.S. Deaths:
Hostile: 33,739
Non-Hostile: 2,835
Total In-Theatre: 36,574
U.S. Wounded in Action - 103,284

Korean War Fast Facts - CNN.com

part of the big family where the Han are the majority

Han is made of many groups that mixed over the millenia. After Manchus conquered China, they changed their family names.

 

[terranMarine]

Han is made of many groups that mixed over the millenia. After Manchus conquered China, they changed their family names.

The question is how large were the Manchu tribes. The Manchu only ruled China in the last Dynasty from 1644 to 1912
Ofcourse before that there were mixing with Manchu too long time ago, same with other ethnic groups. I still doubt that the majority of Chinese have Manchu bloodline.

 

[Grand Historian]

The question is how large were the Manchu tribes. The Manchu only ruled China in the last Dynasty from 1644 to 1912
Ofcourse before that there were mixing with Manchu too long time ago, same with other ethnic groups. I still doubt that the majority of Chinese have Manchu bloodline.

The core Jianzhou Jurchen population was relatively small to compared to the groups they conquered and many "Han" already settled amongst the Jianzhou Jurchens or were directly absorbed into the Manchu banners.

I think it would be the other way around,Kangxi,Qianlong and Yongzheng had Han mothers,the early Liaodongnese Han were favored over Ming subjects.

There was also the ban between Bannermen marrying the local Han,so I don't see why most Han would have Manchu blood.

 

[Superboy]

The question is how large were the Manchu tribes. The Manchu only ruled China in the last Dynasty from 1644 to 1912
Ofcourse before that there were mixing with Manchu too long time ago, same with other ethnic groups. I still doubt that the majority of Chinese have Manchu bloodline.

Manchus were about 10% of the population of the Chinese that the conquered. Of course, Chinese already mixed with Mongols during the Yuan dynasty. These days, I would say over 50% of Chinese have either Mongol and / or Manchu ancestry.

There was also the ban between Bannermen marrying the local Han,so I don't see why most Han would have Manchu blood.

Not really. Only the Aisin Gioro royal family had such a ban. Modern standard Mandarin, of course, is a mix between the Manchu language and the post Yuan dynasty Chinese language. The original Chinese language is sort of like Vietnamese.

 

[Jlaw]

Manchus were about 10% of the population of the Chinese that the conquered. Of course, Chinese already mixed with Mongols during the Yuan dynasty. These days, I would say over 50% of Chinese have either Mongol and / or Manchu ancestry.




Not really. Only the Aisin Gioro royal family had such a ban.

it can be tested if you want to.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Manchus were about 10% of the population of the Chinese that the conquered. Of course, Chinese already mixed with Mongols during the Yuan dynasty. These days, I would say over 50% of Chinese have either Mongol and / or Manchu ancestry.

Not really. Only the Aisin Gioro royal family had such a ban.

Are you serious 50%

 

[Grand Historian]

Not really. Only the Aisin Gioro royal family had such a ban.

I advise reading the actual records before making spurious claims.

Kangxi.Qianlong and Yongzheng are all from the royal family.

it can be tested if you want to.

The problem there is no such thing as a Manchu or Han gene,nearby populations overlap genetically so its hard to say whether the admixture was already there or it was a more recent event.

 

[ComradeNam]

Indeed. They learned much, mastered the arts of the Jirchen Lords of the North. Manchu Shock Cavalry were feared even in South East Asia, when the Qianlong Emperor (The Great) had waged 4 consecutive wars with the Burmese Overlord, King Hsinyabushin (the Great). Qing Heavy Cavalry also were used against the Sikh Empire. The Manchus expanded the territorial domain of China -- its greatest expanse in its entire history, actually.

The Manchu were beaten badly by the Burmese, three time in a row. The Burmese also challenged Qing supremacy by raiding the Qing Empire's border.

 

[terranMarine]

i know our Chinese here is proud of his Manchu bloodline but isn't it ridiculous to say today 50% Chinese have Manchu genes?

 

[Superboy]

it can be tested if you want to.

Well, the DNA is of course the same between Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, just like its the same between Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians.