Featured Newsweek: China Tells U.S. to Stay Out Of Its Border Fight with India

[FairAndUnbiased]

If Pakistan joins, it will be a great opportunity for India to take Pakistani occupied Kashmir. As for PLA, we are not worried - your soldiers have no morale or will to fight.. just a bunch of cameras, equipment, concrete structures to show with absolutely no courage, They flee at the first sight of aggression. The action on global times and CCP bot propaganda is much more than on the ground. It is only due to Indian governments restraint that peoples land grabbing forces have not been made a global mockery yet, but this is inevitable.

it is the opposite. Chinese regard Indian forces as lower than Late Qing Dynasty forces. At least Qing Dynasty had Jiangnan Shipyards and Hanyang Arsenal. India imports more than Qing Dynasty did.

The next Sino-Indian conflict will be like the Spanish-American War. The rise of the US required the humiliation of the Spanish Empire.

 

[Figaro]

The next Sino-Indian conflict will be like the Spanish-American War. The rise of the US required the humiliation of the Spanish Empire.

You are giving them way too much credit. The Spanish were still very formidable foes and the Americans suffered large casualties, particular in the taking of Cuba. A more proper comparison would be the First Persian Gulf War or the Mexican-American war. The balance of power lies far in China's favor ... and assuming Pakistan will join in (which it almost certainly will), an Indian defeat is guaranteed within a matter of weeks. The Chinese and Pakistanis are not going to stop until their flags are above New Delhi.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

You are giving them way too much credit. The Spanish were still very formidable foes and the Americans suffered large casualties, particular in the taking of Cuba. A more proper comparison would be the First Persian Gulf War or the Mexican-American war. The balance of power lies far in China's favor ... and assuming Pakistan will join in (which it almost certainly will), an Indian defeat is guaranteed within a matter of weeks. The Chinese and Pakistanis are not going to stop until their flags are above New Delhi.

I don't think it will be that easy. Never underestimate momentum. Even British took casualties in the opium wars.

 

[Figaro]

I don't think it will be that easy. Never underestimate momentum. Even British took casualties in the opium wars.

Well even the Americans thought Coalition ground forces were possibly going to take 10% casualties from the Iraqis ... in the end, they only took a couple hundred, a majority of which was from friendly fire. I am not implying the PLA is underestimating the Indian military ... but regardless of the situation a quick Indian defeat is all but guaranteed. Also, the Iraqi Army at the time was the 4th largest in the world and battle hardened following a 8 year war with Iran. You wouldn't see any of them running away from the battlefield or surrendering without a fight like the Indians at Galwan. Fighting India will require a fraction of the efforts needed to take Taiwan.

 

[Chhatrapati]

US listens to China and stays out.

 

[Max]

China better get back S Tibet out of this. PLA has a better military and Pakistan might even join in to free Kashmir.

Pakistan will surely fight side by side with China, but i don't think Pakistan obsessed bharatis will change their current posture, still most of their forces are deployed against Pakistan as we speak. PLA have good chance to capture lot more territory without much resistance, until weather turn too cold.

 

[Max]

In 1965, we beat you so bad in a war that you started, that you still have to celebrate defense day every year on the same day that we threatened to take Lahore just to keep reminding you how insecure you really are.. and in 1965, you attacked us because you thought that there will never be a better time, a better chance of winning - and now even that time is far gone. In 1971, your country was severed into 2. In 2020, our capability far exceeds what it was during Kargil, the disparity is the greatest it has ever been and it is ever widening.. This is why your great establishment is feeling so helpless and accusing ummah pals like Saudi of not doing enough and then getting dissed by them.. so enjoy smashing away at the keyboard all you want in this biased forum, because thats all that you can really do to make yourself feel better.

Pakistan obsessed retard he is Chinese not Pakistani, as for bharat Pakistan wars, there are multiple threads in relevant section where it have been discussed in detail, you can take your delusions there.

 

[Avatar]

You think 5 Rafael's will save you? Keep dreamin

We dont need a single Rafale to take down your entire AF. Su-30s in 1:1 parity are more than enough. China's front line fighters are copies of inferior Su 27 and PLAAF does not want to induct JF-17, simply market it using your AF and propaganda masters at ISPR.

If you are Chinese, you are much easier to read than Pakistan. When theres a fight, you run away like chicken, and your soldiers can only attack under disguise of talks. Let winter come and see the result of all of Peoples Land Grabbing armys misadventures.

 

[Figaro]

We dont need a single Rafale to take down your entire AF. Su-30s in 1:1 parity are more than enough. China's front line fighters are copies of inferior Su 27 and PLAAF does not want to induct JF-17, simply market it using your AF and propaganda masters at ISPR.

If you are Chinese, you are much easier to read than Pakistan. When theres a fight, you run away like chicken, and your soldiers can only attack under disguise of talks. Let winter come and see the result of all of Peoples Land Grabbing armys misadventures.

J-11s are being fitted with AESA radar and internal avionics, weapons upgrades ... you are correct the vanilla versions are indeed inferior to the MKI but the overhauled ones will be have a considerable edge in BVR warfare.

Regarding the JF-17, Block 3 will be capable enough to challenge your precious white elephants (a la Rafale) any day. Just wait and see. If you think the 36 Rafales bought at extremely inflated prices will save your air force, think again. For someone who has not even read the specs of the JF-17 to make such bold claims ... I cannot even argue with you. Rest assured, your Tejas fighters will be spared as the Block III's primary targets are the Rafales, then MKIs, then Mirages, and finally the LCAs.

 

[gulli]

The way things are going it seems cheerleaders will bang there master out of sheer frustration. Anyway continue with scratching each other back

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

We dont need a single Rafale to take down your entire AF. Su-30s in 1:1 parity are more than enough. China's front line fighters are copies of inferior Su 27 and PLAAF does not want to induct JF-17, simply market it using your AF and propaganda masters at ISPR.

If you are Chinese, you are much easier to read than Pakistan. When theres a fight, you run away like chicken, and your soldiers can only attack under disguise of talks. Let winter come and see the result of all of Peoples Land Grabbing armys misadventures.

Sorry to say but he's a white American from Texas. Hard working Americans don't like H-1Bs coming to steal their jobs and changing their culture. Indians are already being sued for bringing caste into American companies.

 

[Avatar]

J-11s are being fitted with AESA radar and internal avionics, weapons upgrades ... you are correct the vanilla versions are indeed inferior to the MKI but the overhauled ones will be have a considerable edge in BVR warfare.

Regarding the JF-17, Block 3 will be capable enough to challenge your precious white elephants (a la Rafale) any day. Just wait and see. If you think the 36 Rafales bought at extremely inflated prices will save your air force, think again. For someone who has not even read the specs of the JF-17 to make such bold claims ... I cannot even argue with you. Rest assured, your Tejas fighters will be spared as the Block III's primary targets are the Rafales, then MKIs, then Mirages, and finally the LCAs.

Limit yourself to what is operational and proven. JF-17 MK2 is yet to fly - and you are already dreaming about the operational capability of Mk3

JF-17 is just a cheap MVP that Pakistan can afford and China can export, that somewhat fulfills PAF basic requirements. Thats all.

Rafale are top of the line 4.5 gen aircrafts and they are not expensive at all. The details of the deal and real benefits are hidden for security reasons. It has been cleared by the Supreme Court of India.

As I said before, our Su-30MKIs are more than enough to counter whatever big brother or small brother can throw at us. The Rafale give us more flexibility.

The gap in BVR tech was identified and has been partially closed since 27 feb. India is working on LCA Mk2, MCA and stealth drones which is enough to take care of your speculation.

 

[Avatar]

Sorry to say but he's a white American from Texas. Hard working Americans don't like H-1Bs coming to steal their jobs and changing their culture. Indians are already being sued for bringing caste into American companies.

Someone is saying he is Chinese. Someone is saying he is American.. You guys better take some time to decide your fake identifies before declaring them.

 

[ravi gupta]

J-11s are being fitted with AESA radar and internal avionics, weapons upgrades ... you are correct the vanilla versions are indeed inferior to the MKI but the overhauled ones will be have a considerable edge in BVR warfare.

Regarding the JF-17, Block 3 will be capable enough to challenge your precious white elephants (a la Rafale) any day. Just wait and see. If you think the 36 Rafales bought at extremely inflated prices will save your air force, think again. For someone who has not even read the specs of the JF-17 to make such bold claims ... I cannot even argue with you. Rest assured, your Tejas fighters will be spared as the Block III's primary targets are the Rafales, then MKIs, then Mirages, and finally the LCAs.

Block III line lagakai sabko goli se udayaga,LOL.
By the way how many BLK III you have as of now.

 

[srshkmr]

China’s claim is illegal, India doesn’t share borders with China. It shares with Tibet which is occupied. Once Tibet is liberated, India and china will be at peace.