Newest footages of Iran's underground missile bases

[Serpentine]

Look like Zarif want to annihilated our Missile programs .... this happen when your Foreign Minister has dual citizenship and his children are born in your enemy soil ....

Let me assure you, Zarif is much more Iranian than people like you, who do nothing but hurting this country. Ironically, you people best serve interests of Israel, US and UK.

So only because you are born in Iran (I assumed you are) doesn't mean you are a 'real' Iranian, maybe if you move to Israel, you'll have your interests best served.

 

[19887]

I have some questions to iranians here or somebody else who know:

Ballistic missile capabilities of Iran lagging in 50+ years after Israel
1.)How Iran intends to close this gap? and what's the next step?there is a reason to close this gap?
2.)What about the missile defensive capabilities? Where Iran stand and what the next steps for your opinion?
3.)What Iran's capabilities comparison to other powerful forces in the region as Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan, the Gulf states?

 

[Hack-Hook]

don't overdo it bro. begging for money for our most strategic weapon!
تولید موشک بالستیک شهاب 3 در خیابان توسط پدر موشکی


if we were back then, some people would say it's obsolete, bullsh@t ...

well right now I say anything liquid fueled older than qiam is obsolete and must be phased out.well preferably anything older than Emad but sadly we are not in a perfect world. And about sold fuel ones anything older than sejil-2 is obsolete and must be phased out.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I have some questions to iranians here or somebody else who know:

Ballistic missile capabilities of Iran lagging in 50+ years after Israel
1.)How Iran intends to close this gap? and what's the next step?there is a reason to close this gap?
2.)What about the missile defensive capabilities? Where Iran stand and what the next steps for your opinion?
3.)What Iran's capabilities comparison to other powerful forces in the region as Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan, the Gulf states?

1) There is no gap.
2) Purchasing the S-300PMU2, which has anti-missile capability, and also developing Bavar-373 will bring Iran's anti ballistic capability much higher.
3) Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan are behind Iran, and the Persian Gulf states are restricted to scuds, Saudis have very very small numbers of DF-21/DF-3 but these aren't comparable to Iran's huge stockpiles of very good missiles.

Don't ask stupid questions, however much your mental capacity is restricted. You better give up on this thread, nobody here believes the BS you spout, Israel is an apartheid state and Judea/Samaria don't exist.

 

[Penguin]

Why would you show your underground bases to the world?

Good question!

If they are real, the country is strong militarily. But why would a strong country want to advertise like this? Wouldn't potential opponents already be aware of this through other means? So, imho, the show is mostly for internal consumption. But doesn't that suggests there are people on the inside that need convincing or reinforcing?

If they are fake, the country is weak militarily. Then you have a reason to make others on the outside believe otherwise, irrespective of internal sentiments, and perhaps also your own people.

Either way, there is an element of propaganda. Even if it is simply pride in accomplishment (which we all are prone to)

Seems like a similar strategy to China.

Overwhelming numbers of short-to-medium range ballistic missiles, with conventional warheads (including the DF-series carrier killer ballistic missiles).

Planes can be shot down, but massive saturation strikes combined with hundreds of cruise missiles fired simultaneously alongside the ballistic missiles basically guarantees that a huge chunk of damage gets through.

Only if there is a stationary or slow moving target.

 

[SOHEIL]

I have some questions to iranians here or somebody else who know:

Ballistic missile capabilities of Iran lagging in 50+ years after Israel
1.)How Iran intends to close this gap? and what's the next step?there is a reason to close this gap?
2.)What about the missile defensive capabilities? Where Iran stand and what the next steps for your opinion?
3.)What Iran's capabilities comparison to other powerful forces in the region as Egypt, Turkey and Pakistan, the Gulf states?

50 years

Ok ... NP

 

[Penguin]

Judea/Samaria don't exist.

Neither does Taiwan ;-)

 

[mohsen]

Good question!

If they are real, the country is strong militarily. But why would a strong country want to advertise like this? Wouldn't potential opponents already be aware of this through other means? So, imho, the show is mostly for internal consumption. But doesn't that suggests there are people on the inside that need convincing or reinforcing?

If they are fake, the country is weak militarily. Then you have a reason to make others on the outside believe otherwise, irrespective of internal sentiments, and perhaps also your own people.

Either way, there is an element of propaganda. Even if it is simply pride in accomplishment (which we all are prone to)

say these B.S to your genius military annalists who were saying Iran has only 3 missile launchers!

Only if there is a stationary or slow moving target.

Like your bases and carriers.

 

[Penguin]

say these B.S to your genius military annalists who were saying Iran has only 3 missile launchers!

What BS? Can't you / anyone do an excercise in logic? Please provide an in your humble opion non-BS answer then to the question "why would Iran show this?".

Like your bases and carriers.

I wasn't aware that the Netherlands had bases in/near the Gulf or aircraft carriers.

The flight distance from Guam to Teheran is 5894.91 miles / 9486.93 km. Yet, KC-135 supported B-52s, B-1s and B-2s from USAF Anderson AFB can still 'reach out and touch'...

Read: In a rare deployment, B-52 bombers head to Europe for training exercises - The Washington Post

The flight distance from Fairford to Teheran is 2832.64 miles / 4558.68 km and that from Moron, Spain to Bandar Abbas is 3619.48 miles / 5824.99 km. Go figure. Guam is not necessary.

The unrefueled combat radius of an F-15E is 790 mi (1,270 km). The flight distance from Izmir, Turkey to Tehran is 1359 miles / 2186 km. Go figure. An F-15E can take off at Izmir, fly some 1525km over Turkey in the direction of the eastern border with Iran with tanker support, refuel one last time in the air e.g. to the east of Van near Esendere , just before the border, then fly another leg of up to 625km into Iran, launch its AGM-158A JASSMs (operational range 370+ km / 230+ mi) or JASSM-ER (1000+ km / 620+ mi), and then return. In short, not even big bombers necessary.

ps: technically, Izmir is in range of a 2000km missile fired 'in Iran'. However, that would mean placing the launcher quite near Iran's border, which makes the launchplatform and logistics vulnerable to ground attack. There is no obstacle to conduct the above mission from e.g. a Greek airbase further out, esp. with JASMM-ER available.

The Aviationist » U.S. Air Force has approved mass production of the stealthy JASSM air-launched cruise missiles

Air cover e.g. by F-15C, F22 or possibly F-15 C2040

Temper, temper. Play nice or get reported.

 

[rahi2357]

Good question!

If they are real, the country is strong militarily. But why would a strong country want to advertise like this? Wouldn't potential opponents already be aware of this through other means? So, imho, the show is mostly for internal consumption. But doesn't that suggests there are people on the inside that need convincing or reinforcing?

If they are fake, the country is weak militarily. Then you have a reason to make others on the outside believe otherwise, irrespective of internal sentiments, and perhaps also your own people.

Either way, there is an element of propaganda. Even if it is simply pride in accomplishment (which we all are prone to)

"why would Iran show this?".

This was a drill (war game )and if there was no footage guys like you would claim that there is no such thing or what ever ...
First look at the tags of thread "WARGAME " then ask these wise questions Mr think tank .

 

[mohsen]

What BS? Can't you / anyone do an excercise in logic? Please provide an in your humble opion non-BS answer then to the question "why would Iran show this?".

I already answered why, but apparently you have visual disorder.

I wasn't aware that the Netherlands has bases in/near the Gulf or aircraft carriers.

Temper, temper. Play nice or get reported.

I thought you were american!
nonetheless you always stay under U.S flag!

 

[Penguin]

This was a drill (war game )and if there was no footage guys like you would claim that there is no such thing or what ever ...

If there was no footage, I wouldn't be here in this thread in the first place: who cares about a drill?

First look at the tags of thread "WARGAME " then ask these wise questions Mr think tank .

Frankly, I don't see how a tag 'wargame' alters anything in terms of footage being made available.

I already answered why, but apparently you have visual disorder.

Humor me. (insult again and get reported)

I thought you were american!
nonetheless you always stay under U.S flag!

You though wrong (and could have know from many posts here at PDF).
As for 'always staying under US flag', I don't know what you mean.
I left another PakDef forum for being painted Indian. Now, I'm American?
Geez'...
Consider that there are a variety of points of view in the world, not all of which fall neatly into US or Iran categories, and disagreeing on e.g. an Iranian pov doesn't mean agreeing on a US pov (and vice versa).

 

[mohsen]

Humor me. (insult again and get reported)

don't threaten me, you are the one who is trolling here.
my comment wasn't an insult, that's a fact. I already answered that question, yet you ignored it and asked the same question again.
that's called trolling. you are the one who should be reported.

You though wrong (and could have know from many posts here at PDF).
As for 'always staying under US flag', I don't know what you mean.
I left another PakDef forum for being painted Indian. Now, I'm American?
Geez'...
Consider that there are a variety of points of view in the world, not all of which fall neatly into US or Iran categories, and disagreeing on e.g. an Iranian pov doesn't mean agreeing on a US pov (and vice versa).

put back your flag.
You refers to your troops which fight for Americans.

 

[Penguin]

don't threaten me, you are the one who is trolling here.
my comment wasn't an insult, that's a fact. I already answered that question, yet you ignored it and asked the same question again.
that's called trolling. you are the one who should be reported.

I've not said anything untoward and have picked up on a question asked by someone else. It is simply that you don't like how I picked up that questions. That is not trolling. I've not threatened you but warned you that continues use of personal remarks/attacks e.g. about my vision will be reported.

Feel free to report me, and we'll have management sort this out.

put back your flag.

I've never carried a flag here and am not going to start now, just because of you. Besides, Antarctica doesn't has a flag, and you know where penguins live.

You refers to your troops which fight for Americans.

Dutch troops fight for Dutch interests. Which is as it should be.
I'm not having you paint me into an American corner.

Good day sulking.

Seems like a similar strategy to China.

Overwhelming numbers of short-to-medium range ballistic missiles, with conventional warheads (including the DF-series carrier killer ballistic missiles).

Planes can be shot down, but massive saturation strikes combined with hundreds of cruise missiles fired simultaneously alongside the ballistic missiles basically guarantees that a huge chunk of damage gets through.

You would still need some indication of where the opponent is, especially when he can strike beyond you missile range. Or else you simply have to obliterate any and all bases in the area.

under our boots.

As if this is mature posting ... (rather than trolling)

 

[mohsen]

I've not said anything untoward and have picked up on a question asked by someone else. It is simply that you don't like how I picked up that questions. That is not trolling. I've not threatened you but warned you that continues use of personal remarks/attacks e.g. about my vision will be reported.

Feel free to report me, and we'll have management sort this out.

You picked up that question by an offensive comment suggesting that:
either this footage is fake (based on your shining visions),
or Iran is weak (cause strong countries don't show off their military capabilities to others!)
or it's for internal consumption.

and I answered that genius western military analysts were saying Iran has just 3 missile launchers (in contradict to what you said about being aware through other means)

Yet, you ignored it and repeated that question again. and I suspect to this very comment you still didn't know what answer I was referring too.

As if this is mature posting ... (rather than trolling)

That's the exact meaning of that action.
try harder.