New York city on Hijab

[livingdead]

nah i was just giving counter arguments

You dont like burqa then dont wear it. Simple

I dont like others wearing it in public.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I dont like others wearing it in public.

and why others should care what you like or dislike?

If i dont like women in sari then should they give up wearing sari because i dont like it

 

[Tikolo]

was it not you who said one should not presume burqawali are like xyz.. many wear out of tradition, not due to deep belief or conservatism as such..
I have not seen a single secular muslim girl so cant comment.. may be you are talking about rich girls.

Anyway.. you seem to be in lot of pain in knowing such cases happen, but yet gleefully say you have dated hindu girl, are girls some kind of trophy to be won?

the arab girls wear out of tradition because it's part of their culture, but usually the pakistani or indian ones wear out of religious reasons, or atleast they come from strict Islamic families. But anyways, my point is that it will be really awkward for a hijabi/burkhawali to be dating a hindu or any other non muslim guy, just doesn't happen like that, even if some run away with non muslim guys, they probably take their hijab/burkahs off after that

 

[livingdead]

the arab girls wear out of tradition because it's part of their culture, but usually the pakistani or indian ones wear out of religious reasons, or atleast they come from strict Islamic families. But anyways, my point is that it will be really awkward for a hijabi/burkhawali to be dating a hindu or any other non muslim guy, just doesn't happen like that, even if some run away with non muslim guys, they probably take their hijab/burkahs off after that

too many assumptions.. have you ever been to anywhere in subcontinent ... no wonder you keep asking questions in new threads...
burqa is as much a tradition in many muslim family.. depending on where they live ..their social status etc..
for example kashmiris dont wear burqa but many in lucknow , kanpur and hyderabad etc do.

Its complete misconception that burqa wearing girls are fundoo conservative and dont talk to anybody.. I have seen burqawali shouting at autowalla for few rupees.. there are other things I rather not say.

In India both muslims and hindus are conservative, hindus dont even marry outside caste ... but in cities its different. But still they are very tiny population .... most indians hindu muslims or christians do arrange marriage.

and why others should care what you like or dislike?

If i dont like women in sari then should they give up wearing sari because i dont like it

I have argued why I dont like. I hope those who are wearing will be considerate toward me and listen to my complains. You are welcome to like or dislike whatever you want.

 

[Tikolo]

too many assumptions.. have you ever been to anywhere in subcontinent ... no wonder you keep asking questions in new threads...
burqa is as much a tradition in many muslim family.. depending on where they live ..their social status etc..
for example kashmiris dont wear burqa but many in lucknow , kanpur and hyderabad etc do.

Its complete misconc:eption that burqa wearing girls are fundoo conservative and dont talk to anybody.. I have seen burqawali shouting at autowalla for few rupees.. :cheesy

In India both muslims and hindus are conservative, hindus dont even marry outside caste ... but in cities its different. But still they are very tiny population .... most indians hindu muslims or christians do arrange marriage.

I was the one who said they are easy to talk too, but in my experience only with muslim guys, I have never seen them talking to Hindus guys, maybe in India it happens, not sure

 

[livingdead]

I was the one who said they are easy to talk too, but in my experience only with muslim guys, I have never seen them talking to Hindus guys, maybe in India it happens, not sure

In India people dont ask your religion before they talk to you... most affairs happen when you know each other ..say college campus ... or work colleagues ... dating is not how its in canada probably which is why I said overall its quite low for any girl.

I never said easy or hard, it depends on yourself and your approach.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I have argued why I dont like. I hope those who are wearing will be considerate toward me and listen to my complains. You are welcome to like or dislike whatever you want.

Actually you personally don't like burqa wearing women and thats the only reason you are against it as you want them to live/dress according to your expectaions .. public safety and rest are just excuses

chaloo ji mein souta hoon

 

[Tikolo]

In India people dont ask your religion before they talk to you... most affairs happen when you know each other ..say college campus ... or work colleagues ... dating is not how its in canada probably which is why I said overall its quite low for any girl.

I never said easy or hard, it depends on yourself and your approach.

I am pretty sure a burkhawali will be asked about her religion by hindus.

 

[livingdead]

Actually you personally don't like burqa wearing women and thats the only reason you are against it as you want them to live/dress according to your expectaions .. public safety and rest are just excuses

chaloo ji mein souta hoon

jhoot ... I already gave two reasons why I like burqa ...one.. I find eyes hidden behind it very enticing .. the same girl with normal dress wont appear as attractive to me probably..
the other is very practical ... it helps people falling in love without being beaten up by their brother/father...

I oppose it with a heavy heart..

I am pretty sure a burkhawali will be asked about her religion by hindus.

you have stopped making sense now. I would not respond to such statement.

 

[Panther 57]

But I like curves Every one likes curves

That is the idea; to keep you on the right path and not get allured

 

[liall]

That is the idea; to keep you on the right path and not get allured

Lol Right path is the path of getting allured. Islam to me seems a very tough religion It is like the kind of life sages and sadhus in Hinduism have to live. Go on fast for 1 whole month ( ramadan damn like I cant fast for 1 day ) then you have no alcohol rule. I love having beer or two every weekend. And you have to keep that beard I like myself clean And Islam is hard on Women as well. They have to wear clothes all the way up to face. They can not put on make up anywhere except for eyes. Every one knows how much women love to wear make up and look nice and show off their nice clothes They can not do any of that haha And pray 5 times a day with all bending down on sheets and stuff. So mechanical and tough for lazy people like me lol

 

[Panther 57]

Lol Right path is the path of getting allured. Islam to me seems a very tough religion It is like the kind of life sages and sadhus in Hinduism have to live. Go on fast for 1 whole month ( ramadan damn like I cant fast for 1 day ) then you have no alcohol rule. I love having beer or two every weekend. And you have to keep that beard I like myself clean

Individual preference so wont comment on it, especially when you do not follow Islam.

And Islam is hard on Women as well. They have to wear clothes all the way up to face.

Covering face is not necessary. I have come across even westerns who are conservative and like to cover themselves well. Their logic is that they feel more protected. Again a personal preference, fortunately or unfortunately it is obligatory on muslim women. Again due to personal preferences some may deviate. I feel that it is their own act and they themselves are responsible for it.

They can not put on make up anywhere except for eyes. Every one knows how much women love to wear make up and look nice and show off their nice clothes

This is a misconception. They are allowed all types of make up.

They can not do any of that haha And pray 5 times a day with all bending down on sheets and stuff. So mechanical and tough for lazy people like me lol

Every religion has its method and schedule of praying. May it be Hinduism, Jewism or Christianity. Some of the religions have modified their prayers to suit their daily activities. Islam is more organised and intact so far on its schedule and methodology. Praying is an act and relationship between God and his creation. If someone does not discharge his or her obligation to his creator, then the matter is between the God and him/her. In my opinion, i should not be much concerned with that as it is purely personal relationship between creator and creation. So my dear enjoy the way you want to and no body should have any objection on it. LOL

 

[Zarvan]

An American Non-Muslim Hijabi


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Amanda lives in Sacramento, California. She is a recent graduate of the University of Utah where she earned a B.A. in International Studies and Arabic. Amanda intends to pursue a Ph.D. in World Cultures.

I am an American non-Muslim woman who has chosen to wear the hijab. Yes, you did read that correctly! I am not conducting an experiment on what the hijab is like or trying to explore the lives of Muslims. I have made a permanent life decision to only show my face and hands while in public, and I love it!

When I was younger, I found the hijab to be beautiful, but unfortunately I thought that a lot of the myths about the hijab were true, and so I was daunted by it. When I started college I studied Arabic and made friends with the Muslim students in my classes. A few of the girls wore a hijab, and even though I liked the look of it and respected their right to wear it, I thought that it was oppressive.

Unfortunately, around the same time, I began to notice that some of the men at my university would openly speak about their female classmates as though they were moving pieces of meat. I would often have to hear stories that I rather wouldn’t about what these boys would like to do to this girl or that one, and I began to notice their looks. Before entering university, I would catch men looking at me in an inappropriate way from time to time, and I would just ignore it, but after hearing these conversations and feeling their many looks, I couldn’t just ignore it anymore.

I mentioned how I felt to some of my classmates, and often I got responses like “boys will be boys,” or “it’s just their biology, they can’t help their behavior.” At the time, I bought these responses, and I thought that my discomfort was just my problem. I thought that these people had a right to behave the way they were, and I had no right to try and stop them. When I got engaged, this all changed.

My fiance is my soulmate. We met in junior high and were friends for years before we began dating. He had asked me out a few times before then, and even though I turned him down, he always behaved around me in a respectful way. It was because of how he always treated me that I eventually agreed to go out with him. The day he proposed to me is, so far, the happiest day of my life. Once I made the decision to make a lifelong commitment to him and only him, it seemed obvious that no one had the right to treat me like their sex object. Whenever I would notice someone looking at me inappropriately, I no longer felt uncomfortable, I felt outraged! But I still had no idea what I could do about it.

Finally, one day I saw one of my hijabi friends at school and ran over to say hi to her. She started to walk towards me, and for some reason I was just struck by her. She was wearing a scarf and an abayaa like she normally did, but in that moment she looked regal and powerful. In my mind I thought, “Wow, I want to look just like that.” I started researching the hijab, and I learned more about why Muslims wear a hijab, what makes a hijab a hijab, and how to wrap scarves. I watched youtube videos, browsed online hijab shops (including Haute Hijab) and the more I saw the more I was impressed by how these hijabi women exuded class and elegance. I wanted so much be like these women, and couldn’t get the hijab out of my mind. I even started dreaming about it!

There were many things I liked about the hijab. I liked the thought of having so much control over my body and how the outside world saw it, but what I also liked was how well it fit with my feminist beliefs. As a feminist I believe that women and men should be equals in society, and that the norm of treating women like sex objects is a form of unequal and unfair treatment. Women in American society are looked down upon if they don’t dress in order to be attractive for others, but I believe that women shouldn’t have to conform to some ridiculous and unattainable standard of beauty. The hijab is a way to be free of that.

However, the way the hijab best complemented my feminist beliefs was how it was about so much more than women’s clothing. As I understood it, the hijab is about how men and women should interact while in public. Men also dress in a non-revealing way, and both men and women are supposed to treat each other with respect. I was happy to learn that both men and women were expected to be responsible for their own actions, and impressed at how egalitarian the ideals of the hijab are.

At this point, I was certain that I wanted to wear a hijab, but I had a problem. I was afraid that wearing a hijab as a non-muslim would be offensive, and I was too afraid to ask my friends. I found one youtube video on the subject, and though it said that it wouldn’t be offensive, I still wasn’t sure. But eventually, after weeks of thinking about the hijab, I finally asked one of my friends. She told me that she wouldn’t be offended, and then pointed out that Muslims aren’t the only ones who wear headscarves, many Jews and Christians do as well.

I started wearing it off and on for a few weeks after that, and once I felt comfortable I always wore it when I left home. Soon after, I left for an internship in Jordan. I was afraid that the Jordanians would not like that I was wearing a hijab, but quickly after I got off the plane I found otherwise! When I told people that I was an American non-Muslim, they were excited to see that I wore a hijab. People often told me that they thought it was a very good thing that I was wearing it, and some people were touched that I would show such respect to their culture. Best of all, I will never forget the sight of a fully grown man jumping with excitement because I was wearing a jilbab! These memories will always bring warmth to my heart, and they give me strength back in the states when I have to deal with angry glares or awkward questions about my hijab.

Sometimes I will still catch men looking at me in a disrespectful way, but I take joy in knowing that though they may try, they still cannot see what they want to. Because of the hijab, I understand that my body is my right, and I will be forever grateful to the Muslim women who taught that to me.
An American Non-Muslim Hijabi | MuslimVillage.com