New War Ahead: China-Pakistan vs. U.S.A.

[utraash]

Talking of safe haven for terrorists here's the fact:

500 Bangladeshi terrorists still in India
No move to extradite them despite deal
. Mamunur Rashid
The Bangladesh government is yet to bring back more than 500 listed terrorists, including two of Harkatul Jihad (Huji), despite the signing of extradition treaty between Dhaka and New Delhi during Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's visit to India in January last year. "Of the 500 terrorists, the most wanted criminals Shahadat Hossain, Dakat Shahid, Khandaker Tanvir Islam Joy, Haris Ahmed Haris, Montu, Khorshed, Zisan, Halim, Rony, Mohammad Ali, Jeshin, Ashik, Nabi, Mosharraf, Chanchal and Shahin are reportedly taken shelter in the safe havens in different parts of West Bengal, mainly Kolkata," said a Home Ministry source. Meanwhile, the Awami League government has handed over at least 50 Indian citizens to its government, including the top ten leaders of the banned United Liberation Front of Asam (ULFA) and National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) after the signing of the extradition treaty. In return, India has not handed over any of the wanted criminals to Bangladesh. So, what Bangladesh has gained is nothing but a big zero, said the ministry source, preferring anonymity. The Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of police, in the meantime time, has written letters to the West Bengal CID and the Delhi CID asking them to hand over the most wanted Bangladeshi criminals to its government, the source added. Besides, a human rights organisation in India has said more than 500 Bangladeshi citizens are now languishing in different Indian jails. The recent visit of Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao has shown a light that Bangladesh and India will be able to settle their long standing unsettled issues. She said some disputes have already been resolved and the rest will be decided during the visit of Indian premier Dr Manmohan Singh to Bangladesh during the last half of this year. Officials of the two countries, Nirupama said, are waiting with a hope that the Teesta river water sharing treaty would be signed at the time of Dr Singh's visit. During Sheikh Hasina's visit, India agreed to sell 250-megawatt electricity to Bangladesh. Both the counties are preparing the line to supply electricity from India to Bangladesh. It was also agreed that Bangladesh would provide Ashuganj river port facility to India. India wants transit facility from Bangladesh for its North Eastern states. Bangladesh assures transit facility to India. Again India gets everything but what Bangladesh will gain is a big zero, experts opined. The government has so long failed to bring back Harkatul Jihad (Huji) activists, Morsalin and his brother Mottakin, who were involved in the August 21, 2004 grenade attack on the AL rally in Dhaka. These Huji men are currently in Tihar Jail in Delhi while some top listed criminals are now being kept in different jails of West Bengal. Long before signing the extradition treaty between Dhaka and Delhi, two listed criminals, Babul and Jewel, were handed over to Bangladesh police in December, 2007. Kolkata CID police also handed over two top criminals, Sanjidul Islam Imon and Tushar, to Bangladeshi in March, 2008. With Imon and Tushar, a total of seven listed criminals were deported to Bangladesh so far. The ULFA leaders, who were deported to the Indian authorities by Bangladeshi agencies at an outpost on the border in Meghalaya, are chairman of the banned outfit Arabinda Rajkhowa, his wife Kaberi Kachari and their two sons, deputy chief Raju Barua and Rajkhowa's bodyguard Raju Borah. Besides, the two other top ULFA leaders, Chitrabon Hazarika and Sasha Choudhury, also detained in Bangladesh were subsequently handed over to India. While the Bangladesh government maintained secrecy about the handover of Arabinda Rajkhowa, the Indian media reported that at least ten top ULFA and NDFB 'terrorists' were handed over by Dhaka. According to Indian media reports, two other rebel leaders, chairman of the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) Ranjan Daimary and chairman of the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) Biswamohan Debbarma, were also handed over to India. Moreover, the two suspected members of the Indian-based militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) were also deported by Bangladesh. A high official of Home Ministry, wishing anonymity, told The New Nation yesterday that the government has requested on a number of occasions to India to deport the Bangladeshi terrorists hiding there but they were not seemed responsive.

The new nation Bangladeshi English newspaper

Well by your statement it sounds we are also planning to have strategic edge over BD.... No criminals should be allowed any heaven inside India if its true... But same time you people need to raise your concern before Indian gov again with some seriousness.... I hope they will definitely hear your voice & take appropriate action..... Its pathetic if its true.......

 

[utraash]

Why should China go to the shores of america when the US has not directly threatened China? Before going to the shores of america China has scores to settle with india, wait just a little bit longer and you'll have your little battles.

Becoz China cant go anywhere not even its own shore with its crappy stuff to dare US..... well if they are in mood to settle the score with us then we are also ready for that.... cant wait.... god save us..... well it will never happen becoz it will cause to loose all wealth & progressed gained by the both country over the years.....

 

[Juice]

USA cannot think anything else other than war. USA is a war monger country and US has no right to criticise other countries. Its stupid of them to build and make stronger nuclear technology while asking other nations to stop their nuclear programme and its also irony that they are the only nation who have used nuclear bombs on innocent civilians

Civilians support the war effort. The Japanese came for war, and cry that they got it.

 

[Juice]

The americans are going to manage the Chinese the way they have managed the Talibans with only rocket launchers and AK-47s. I believe all the Chinese have to do is arm the Talibans adequately and they'll finish the job for the Chinese and the Pakistanis. Then China can pay attention to india with style. I'm sure this time the indians won't have the opportunity to drop their pants and run.

You confuse war with nation building. The Taliban cannot "win" a war, they can only be a fly in the oinment preventing a normal life for Afghanis. If the same was apllied to China, it would mean thier nation destroyed, but armed gangs preventing any reconstruction.

 

[Pfpilot]

This is sensationalism at its best. In no way can Pakistan and China defeat the USA, actually, no way can Russia, China, India and Pakistan defeat the USA. Their armed forces are too technologically advanced, their organization to strong and their funding essentially unlimited. And what if in the remote chance America was defeated? Do people not realize, the Americans are the key cog in the world economy, half the world economies would collapse if the American economy was decimated enough for them to no longer require foreign services and products. And I dont mean the current recession, but an economic depression.
The world is too globalized today, any war, any result, drastically affects the parties involved in a hugely negative manner. Which is why wars should be avoided at all costs, not advocated for.

 

[secularbuster]

You confuse war with nation building. The Taliban cannot "win" a war, they can only be a fly in the oinment preventing a normal life for Afghanis. If the same was apllied to China, it would mean thier nation destroyed, but armed gangs preventing any reconstruction.

You confuse exploitation with nation building. America is not for building nations, it is for grabbing the natural resources of other nations. Americans create the the necessary pretext, be it a search for WMD or terrorists, to fool the world.

 

[secularbuster]

This is sensationalism at its best. In no way can Pakistan and China defeat the USA, actually, no way can Russia, China, India and Pakistan defeat the USA. Their armed forces are too technologically advanced, their organization to strong and their funding essentially unlimited. And what if in the remote chance America was defeated? Do people not realize, the Americans are the key cog in the world economy, half the world economies would collapse if the American economy was decimated enough for them to no longer require foreign services and products. And I dont mean the current recession, but an economic depression.
The world is too globalized today, any war, any result, drastically affects the parties involved in a hugely negative manner. Which is why wars should be avoided at all costs, not advocated for.

Your longing for peace at any cost is sensationalism in itself. Iraq or Afghanistan did not want war with america but they got it, in the same way Pakistan or China is not looking for a war with the US, it is the US which is looking for an excuse to get into a military confrontation with Pakistan. Since you've raised the issue of victory or defeat if Vietnam could defeat america why can't China? Remember, in this age of nukes, victory or defeat does not mean total annihilation of the enemy.

 

[Major Ram]

What's the matter, the americans with their superior tech cannot fight them in the mountains! The Talibans prefer the fresh air of the mountains so they fight from that vantage point, let your american pimps defeat them there if they can.

Let your Taliban come front and show up. Why your brave soldiers are hiding in the snake holes? USA is ready to fight but why they are scared?

 

[khurasaan1]

Let your Taliban come front and show up. Why your brave soldiers are hiding in the snake holes? USA is ready to fight but why they are scared?

Yea the Taliban can comeout from their snake holes if US comeup to fight hand to hand....and we can decied the fight then...no treachory/deciet....if they can do treachory/deceit then ..offcoarse Talibanz are not dumb.....they know how to screw them up........Alhamdolillah.......

 

[khurasaan1]

You confuse exploitation with nation building. America is not for building nations, it is for grabbing the natural resources of other nations. Americans create the the necessary pretext, be it a search for WMD or terrorists, to fool the world.

Yes! very true bro ...very true.......thats what this evil US is ....They will find nomore new victimz to it anymore , so that its demise is imminent...... Insha-Allah .........

 

[khurasaan1]

This is sensationalism at its best. In no way can Pakistan and China defeat the USA, actually, no way can Russia, China, India and Pakistan defeat the USA. Their armed forces are too technologically advanced, their organization to strong and their funding essentially unlimited. And what if in the remote chance America was defeated? Do people not realize, the Americans are the key cog in the world economy, half the world economies would collapse if the American economy was decimated enough for them to no longer require foreign services and products. And I dont mean the current recession, but an economic depression.
The world is too globalized today, any war, any result, drastically affects the parties involved in a hugely negative manner. Which is why wars should be avoided at all costs, not advocated for.

Looks like u living in the dream world.......just supply Talibanz with anti aircraft weapons and then watch the game ......U will not see US in Afghanistan anymore just within one year......and not even in whole Asia .....Insha-Allah.........

 

[Major Ram]

Yea the Taliban can comeout from their snake holes if US comeup to fight hand to hand....and we can decied the fight then...no treachory/deciet....if they can do treachory/deceit then ..offcoarse Talibanz are not dumb.....they know how to screw them up........Alhamdolillah.......

So if you can't come up to the real war then why the hell you wanna challenge the USA in the first place?

Hand on hand? Lolzz.. is this how you fight a war in 21st century? Hiding in the mountains? lol

They are the coward, big time.

You're amazing brother.

 

[mrwarrior006]

Originally posteb by Khurasaan1
Looks like u living in the dream world.......just supply Talibanz with anti aircraft weapons and then watch the game ......U will not see US in Afghanistan anymore just within one year......and not even in whole Asia .....Insha-Allah.........

^^^^and just give free ticket from human rights to US(i mean we dont care what u do in tat region from the world, its ur free ride) and just see what it makes of afghanistan forget about taliban

 

[KruelRage]

In such a conflict, what India needs is to stay OUT.

From reading the posts, the common theme is

India+USA vs China+Pakistan

^ Now if, India doesn't get involved in the conflict or phy. conflict & remains a mere spectator while Pakistan due to demand of its people such as Pak. members here sides with China completely.


What will Pakistan benefit?

 

[KruelRage]

What will Pakistan benefit?

Pakistan risks jeopardizing its economy due to dependance on US+Allies for exports.

It risks jeopardizing the livelihood of its diaspora in US+Allies thereby Remittances received.

It risks jeopardizing its military equipment due to dependence of US.

& for what?

As India remains outside the phy. conflict, no phy. sol. to Kashmir could be brought & neither a direct dent to its economy.

With Pak. involved in such a conflict & India remaining outside, Pak. risks being reduced to a failed state from a failing state.