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New trade talks may not lead to quick accord

By Cao Siqi Source:Global Times Published: 2018/8/17

Latest talk a ‘chance’ for Trump to ease criticism

Chinese experts on Thursday hailed the resumption of talks between China and the US as a sign that could be resolved trade frictions, but doubted an agreement will be reached soon.

At the invitation of the US side, a Chinese delegation led by Vice Minister of Commerce Wang Shouwen will visit the US in late August to meet with their US counterparts on bilateral economic and trade issues of mutual concern, the Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) said Thursday.

Wang is also China's deputy international trade representative. The US delegation will be led by David Malpass, undersecretary for international affairs at the US Treasury Department, the Xinhua News Agency reported on Thursday.

China has reaffirmed its opposition to unilateralism and trade protectionism, and will not accept any form of restrictive unilateral trade measures, according to a statement MOFCOM released on its website on Thursday.

China welcomes dialogue and communication on the basis of reciprocity, equality and integrity, the statement said.

"The new round of talks is necessary for both China and the US to keep in touch and avoid a complete breakdown in bilateral ties," Mei Xinyu, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, told the Global Times on Thursday.

Diao Daming, an American studies expert and associate professor at Renmin University of China, also said the talks are a positive sign amid escalating China-US trade tensions. They will play a crucial role in the final resolution of the trade frictions.

"We should make full preparations and actively promote the talks," Diao told the Global Times on Thursday.

Cong Yi, an economics professor at Tianjin University of Finance and Economics, said the talks may focus on the level of openness and trade share.

However, analysts remain doubtful over the talks will produce a positive outcome.

"There is a slight chance that China and the US will reach an agreement," Mei said.

The US has not been seriously affected by the frictions, and has not realized how unreasonable their claims are. Therefore, there is no reason for the US to compromise and reach an agreement this time, Mei said.

But the talks will pave the way for further negotiations when both countries are willing to reach an agreement, Mei noted.

Diao said that stubborn interests drove the US to launch a trade war and one round of talks is not enough to solve the problem. He urged the US to cherish this chance as there are no winners in the trade war.

Cong predicted the outcome of the upcoming talks will not be optimistic, as the Trump administration has been unsteady.

"For example, Trump's recent attitude toward the Taiwan question crossed China's bottom line. So, the Chinese delegation should always hold their bottom line during the talks," Diao said.

On August 8, the US delivered on its threat to impose a 25 percent tariff on $16 billion in Chinese goods. MOFCOM announced the next day the US forced China to retaliate with the same tariff rate on the same value of goods from the US. Both sets of tariffs take effect on August 23.

"Aside from talks on trade frictions, this new round of talks may also be a chance for China to express its determination to deepen reforms," Wang Yiwei, director of Renmin University of China's Institute of International Affairs, told the Global Times.

Since opposition in the US to a trade war has emerged, especially among companies which invest heavily in China, the new round of talks is Trump's chance to ease the domestic situation, Wang Yiwei said on Thursday.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1115788.shtml

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Looks like the US caved in and asked for negotiations. Why so? They are winning and China is losing. Why end a very fruitful economic warfare?

The US is chickening out? What is the true weakness under the tough guy attitude?

US has become so FAKE NEWS, it is difficult to say real from fake.


@qwerrty , @Raphael , @powastick
 
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New trade talks may not lead to quick accord

By Cao Siqi Source:Global Times Published: 2018/8/17

Latest talk a ‘chance’ for Trump to ease criticism

Chinese experts on Thursday hailed the resumption of talks between China and the US as a sign that could be resolved trade frictions, but doubted an agreement will be reached soon.

At the invitation of the US side, a Chinese delegation led by Vice Minister of Commerce Wang Shouwen will visit the US in late August to meet with their US counterparts on bilateral economic and trade issues of mutual concern, the Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) said Thursday.

Wang is also China's deputy international trade representative. The US delegation will be led by David Malpass, undersecretary for international affairs at the US Treasury Department, the Xinhua News Agency reported on Thursday.

China has reaffirmed its opposition to unilateralism and trade protectionism, and will not accept any form of restrictive unilateral trade measures, according to a statement MOFCOM released on its website on Thursday.

China welcomes dialogue and communication on the basis of reciprocity, equality and integrity, the statement said.

"The new round of talks is necessary for both China and the US to keep in touch and avoid a complete breakdown in bilateral ties," Mei Xinyu, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, told the Global Times on Thursday.

Diao Daming, an American studies expert and associate professor at Renmin University of China, also said the talks are a positive sign amid escalating China-US trade tensions. They will play a crucial role in the final resolution of the trade frictions.

"We should make full preparations and actively promote the talks," Diao told the Global Times on Thursday.

Cong Yi, an economics professor at Tianjin University of Finance and Economics, said the talks may focus on the level of openness and trade share.

However, analysts remain doubtful over the talks will produce a positive outcome.

"There is a slight chance that China and the US will reach an agreement," Mei said.

The US has not been seriously affected by the frictions, and has not realized how unreasonable their claims are. Therefore, there is no reason for the US to compromise and reach an agreement this time, Mei said.

But the talks will pave the way for further negotiations when both countries are willing to reach an agreement, Mei noted.

Diao said that stubborn interests drove the US to launch a trade war and one round of talks is not enough to solve the problem. He urged the US to cherish this chance as there are no winners in the trade war.

Cong predicted the outcome of the upcoming talks will not be optimistic, as the Trump administration has been unsteady.

"For example, Trump's recent attitude toward the Taiwan question crossed China's bottom line. So, the Chinese delegation should always hold their bottom line during the talks," Diao said.

On August 8, the US delivered on its threat to impose a 25 percent tariff on $16 billion in Chinese goods. MOFCOM announced the next day the US forced China to retaliate with the same tariff rate on the same value of goods from the US. Both sets of tariffs take effect on August 23.

"Aside from talks on trade frictions, this new round of talks may also be a chance for China to express its determination to deepen reforms," Wang Yiwei, director of Renmin University of China's Institute of International Affairs, told the Global Times.

Since opposition in the US to a trade war has emerged, especially among companies which invest heavily in China, the new round of talks is Trump's chance to ease the domestic situation, Wang Yiwei said on Thursday.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1115788.shtml

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Looks like the US caved in and asked for negotiations. Why so? They are winning and China is losing. Why end a very fruitful economic warfare?

The US is chickening out? What is the true weakness under the tough guy attitude?

US has become so FAKE NEWS, it is difficult to say real from fake.


@qwerrty , @Raphael , @powastick

Quote from your article to break your delusions.

"The US has not been seriously affected by the frictions, and has not realized how unreasonable their claims are. Therefore, there is no reason for the US to compromise and reach an agreement this time, Mei said."

US is an open liberal society with free media unlike China. Their proceses are transparent. It is China who acts like a tough guy to compensate for shortcomming. US was always open to talks. It was your government that was denying talks, giving flimsy reasons saying "we wont be bullied". Looks like China caved in and is ready to be be bullied.
 
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Opinion: What signals have been sent in upcoming Sino-US talks?
2018-08-17 10:08 GMT+8
Updated 2018-08-17 11:50 GMT+8

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Editor’s note: This article is translated from an editorial piece originally published in the WeChat official account of Bullpiano.

China and the US are about to have another round of trade talks in late August, which no doubt sends a positive signal in the heat of the China-US trade war.

There are only two paragraphs in the statement about the upcoming talks released by the Ministry of Commerce of China on Aug. 16:

At the invitation of the US side, Wang Shouwen, Vice Minister of Commerce and deputy China international trade representative, will lead a delegation to visit the US in late August to meet with US representatives led by David Malpass, undersecretary for international affairs at the US Treasury Department, for talks on bilateral economic and trade issues of their respective concerns.

China reiterates that it opposes unilateralism and trade protectionism and will not accept any unilateral trade restrictions. China welcomes dialogue and communication on the basis of reciprocity, equality, and integrity.

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In this file photo taken on December 12, 2017, China's Vice Minister of Commerce Wang Shouwen talks during a plenary session of the Business Forum of the 11th Ministerial Conference of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in Buenos Aires. /VCG Photo.

The talks are of special significance given their timing and circumstances. I think we can get at least three messages from the talks.

Message 1: The Chinese delegation has been invited by the US side to visit the US for this round of high-profile trade talks.

The statement of the Ministry of Commerce of China started with “at the invitation of the US side.” Why did the US invite the Chinese delegation? The US side is probably trying to adjust its position as it becomes clear that no one will emerge a winner from a trade war.
This unprecedented trade conflict has already seriously affected many companies and industries in both countries. Both sides will incur heavy losses if the trade war escalates. In this context, the only choice is to restart negotiations and resolve outstanding issues through dialogue and communication.

Message 2: Both countries are very cautious, so they send vice ministers rather than higher-level officials for this round of talks.

In the previous three rounds of talks, both China and the US sent ministerial or even higher-level officials. The two sides reached a consensus that “there would be no trade war.” However, the White House backed away from the consensus and launched a trade war against China even before the ink of the agreement dried.
Having learned a hard lesson from those talks, both sides are now more cautious, so they send lower-level officials for the talks. China may feel unsure whether the US will stay true to its words this time even though the two sides reach a deal again.

Message 3: Keywords in the statement point to China’s stance and concerns.

The trade talks may send a positive signal, but the problems are still there. In announcing the upcoming trade talks, China also reiterates its stance of opposing unilateralism and trade protectionism, and not accepting any unilateral trade restrictions.

“Reiterate” means China’s stance has been consistent; that is to say, China will not be forced to swallow bitter fruit and will keep fighting bullying.

The statement also said that “China welcomes dialogue and communication on the basis of reciprocity, equality, and integrity.” “Integrity” is used here for a purpose. I hope the US side understands what it means as we all do.

(Cover photo: US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (2nd-L) and Chinese Vice Premier Liu He (4th-R) attend a meeting at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing, June 3, 2018. /VCG photo.)


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From integrity Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

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Quote from your article to break your delusions.

"The US has not been seriously affected by the frictions, and has not realized how unreasonable their claims are. Therefore, there is no reason for the US to compromise and reach an agreement this time, Mei said."

US is an open liberal society with free media unlike China. Their proceses are transparent. It is China who acts like a tough guy to compensate for shortcomming. US was always open to talks. It was your government that was denying talks, giving flimsy reasons saying "we wont be bullied". Looks like China caved in and is ready to be be bullied.


It looks exactly like that from India.
 
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What's the point of a free open democratic liberal progressive media of infallible truth if they can't bring their message to a quarter of all Hindus owing to their illiteracy?
The idea is being in control of our own destinies. And media is not only written, so literacy point stands invalid. Moreover India has around 80 pc literacy (mostly old are left out). The idea of rights are embedded into the India ethos irrespective of literacy. We fought for them with the British and made sure we had them in our constitution. We are parts that make the whole.
 
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Chinese experts on Thursday hailed the resumption of talks between China and the US as a sign that could be resolved trade frictions, but doubted an agreement will be reached soon.
These Chinese so called experts are wrong and too optimistic to kiss US balls.

:lol:
 
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