New Technology Demonstrator UAV Crashes near Hosur

[aimarraul]

At least this is not "iPhone" from China.

india is not U.S ,india have cheaper labor power than china,if indian have to buy chinese stuff,that only means one thing,india have no basic industry,it's the same reason why india's military project always delay,china and chinese have nothing to do with that,don't use china to divert attention from your own problems.

 

[Iggy]

india is not U.S ,india have cheaper labor power than china,if indian have to buy chinese stuff,that only means one thing,india have no basic industry,it's the same reason why india's military project always delay,china and chinese have nothing to do with that,don't use china to divert attention from your own problems.

Correct me if I am wrong but i think China has cheap labor than India and also here there are lots of hurdles like labor unions and stuffs like that to open up a industries..Its more hard to start a industry in India than that of China combine with the cheap labor than any other country investors queuing up to invest in your country..


Yes agree with you about the basic industry due to license raj and pro socialist mentalities of the government private investments were not encouraged here ..Our markets started to open up only in 1992 and things are getting better every year..Hope we can reach where China is now..

But about the failures i still believe in our Scientists can deliver..They are going on the right path..Failures are bound to happen when we try on new fields..Its new for us and we are trying our level best and there are some success stories too..But peoples are too obsessed about talking the failures they keep a blind eye on the success of our scientists

 

[xukxuk]

Hmm..say whatever you want. Who cares. Anyways it was in response to a stupid and pointless post by one of our Pakistani friends.

you are exact right
this is the issue between you and a pakistani firend
why do you pull china into this?
you guys always do something like this to push pakistan into china's side.

 

[spsk]

india is not U.S ,india have cheaper labor power than china,if indian have to buy chinese stuff,that only means one thing,india have no basic industry,it's the same reason why india's military project always delay,china and chinese have nothing to do with that,don't use china to divert attention from your own problems.

Yes I do agree with you , We do not have basic industry to make zerox copies ,we are always taught to be innovative Okay,Lets not bring China to India's failure. You too can change your mind from India = failure, We are successful in many fields , I personally don't like any of our Chinese friends to reply this message worrying with the statistics about out toilets ,we can take care of our toilets.

Sorry for deviating the topic,Lets stick to it.

 

[vkurian]

Of late Indian members here have been very picky of our Chinese friends I don't know why. Everything ends in a pissing contest between world’s two most populated nations. Let us Indians grow up and learn to accept reality as it is that we are far behind China. It is not to run down Indian friends in any way we can’t compete with them it is coz of their system and polity nothing else. The government & the party decide the future plan for entire China once it is decided it is implemented in quick time. No questions asked and no answers given.

Now can we dream of anything like this in our democracy if the centre proposes something the states oppose it. If one party suggests something good the others opposes it simply coz they are in opposition. The nuclear deal was a good example. The very fact that we have achieved so much is a great accomplishment. Hats off to the Indian industry to compete at international level in spite of all odds. So let us not compare our self with China as we are like chalk and cheese. So let us learn from them instead of calling them names.

I have traveled to China many times and must say they are very warm and wonderful people who don’t harbor any ill will against us .They I found were keen to know more about us and our culture where as we I must admit have a superiority complex don’t know why? At government level it is different in China as they are the one who try to hide and control the people and they have some airs about being Chinese. They are rough and try to dominate us even in discussions coz they find it difficult how we can survive as a country in spite of so many differences.

So let us not get too influenced by these posts and get carried away .China is not calling itself number one but the world is and that is what matters. So let us not get into these number games and do what we are good at recognition will come in good time. Let us take a clue from Obama’s visit and understand who and what matters in today’s worlds. We have definite strengths let us leverage on it and work hard and not try to match our Pakistani brothers who will become Chinese also so that they have some edge over us.

 

[lockh33d]

Hmm..say whatever you want. Who cares. Anyways it was in response to a stupid and pointless post by one of our Pakistani friends.



don't be so trigger happy. Read my post again. You failed to realize I was not taking a dig at Chinese tech.



can't be original even while posting in a forum. Copying from xukxuk. I don't blame you. Typical Chinese mentality.

Copying, but improving=China. India=No ability to copy, rather buy buy buy XDXDXD

 

[lockh33d]

From you was, I got it why you misinterpreted my original post. But its ok and yes I was not 'on topic', but I hope you realize that my post was in response to another off topic post and again I was not denigrating chinese tech.

But anyways lets leave it here. No hard feelings.

LOL, It's "I got why...," not "I got IT why."

It's "But it's OK," not "But its OK."

What's "Denigrating?"

English, not Hinglish my Indian friend.

 

[DesiGuy]

Copying, but improving=China. India=No ability to copy, rather buy buy buy XDXDXD

Agree on you with this.

 

[amarnath]

Its time for Indians to start throwing some questions..why do we keep having so many crashes?????..very sad

1.We started evolving our own Technologies, when you do that you meet failures, its easy to build on a tested technology, like u A tested avionics, a tested design, a pre tested engine.... But that too meet failures becaue ofthe terrains....

2.We lie in a typicall zone where we are bound to spend more on purchases of defense equippments than researching our own

3.You cannot expect everything to be turned out as a success like in our neighbouring countries.

4.The differance between our neighbours and us is, media, our media hypes a lot on our failures, but our scientists are not demoralised by that, I say that because my brother works for HAL.How much did the media hype on failure about ATV project? But Our Scientists came up with a wonderful machine.

5.we are achieveing more than everyone, because one can only learn by making mistakes... not by repeating others mistakes...

6.Our softwares are used in several countries for defense equippments..... like in HAL, Master Geometry Development, Detail Design Analysis, Testing of Wind Tunnel models....

We have just started, we have a long way to go, afterall success in not what you get overnight.... And like kaveri is developed, but do u thing that LCA can be powered with the cryogenic rocket engine developed by India to Power PSLV? I dont think so.... So give some time for our scientists.... we spend money, Not our neighbours... dont get deejcted

 

[sudhir007]

LiveFist - The Best of Indian Defence: Almost 3 Years After Invitation, Private Industry Still Not Part of Rustom UAV Programme

Almost 3 Years After Invitation, Private Industry Still Not Part of Rustom UAV Programme

More than 2.5 years after the Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE) first put out an invitation for Expression of Interest (EOI) by private industries to be the production agency cum development partner (PADP) in the Rustom medium altitude long endurance (MALE) UAV programme, the project is still commandeered by ADE alone. The last date for submission of the EOI letters was March 5, 2007. Sources say the Ministry of Defence is still evaluating the proposals, sent in by the Tatas, Godrej & Boyce, Larsen & Toubro Defence and a HAL-BEL consortium. What this basically means is that all the reasons for getting on board a PADP have been undermined already. First, here's a look at what ADE wanted a PADP for: to (a) reduce development time frame without sacrificing quality, (b) reduce TOT efforts and time, (c) start production immediately after development is complete, (d) start tooling and production-planning well in advance, (e) share development work with the PADP, and (f) PADP will be the nodal agency responsible for production and delivery of UAVs and related systems to the armed forces and provide product support during its life cycle.

Now here's a broad look at the PADP's official tasks once chosen: (a) production and delivery of UAVs, Spares, Ground Systems and Integrated Logistic Support (ILS) (all related support, handling and maintenance equipment), (b) initial integration and flight demonstration to users and operation support, (c) training of users on the product, (d) user documentation and related tasks, (e) PADP may also be tasked with Product Support, maintenance and servicing of the UAVs.

More importantly, sample this from the official EOI document: "In order to be prepared for the above, the PADP is required to participate throughout the development phase as the major Development Partner, take a major role in fabrication, assembly, integration and operation aspects and get to know on-line all the aspects of the UAV so that at the end of development, the agency is right away ready to launch production. Table 1 gives in brief, details of the proposed participation of PADP in development."

Let me now list out the "headers" under which the PADP was to have been involved before the flight-testing phase. I'll bullet these:
There should a few system engineers from the PADP who will participate as members of the Team throughout the development cycle of the project and also act as coordinators between ADE and PADP for all activities.
Sub-systems design
Mechanical engineering design of LRUs
Engineering Drawings, Electrical / Electronic Circuits & PCB Layouts
Fabrication & Testing of Airframe and mechanical Assemblies and Electronic LRUs
Carrying out ATP & Environmental Tests (SOF, ESS, QUAL & EMI / EMC)
System Integration and flight operations
Testing & Acceptance
Fabrication, Stage Inspections, Coupon Testing etc.
Procurement of Engines, materials, components, fasteners etc.
The programme doesn't have a moment to waste. According to the invitation for EOI document, the ADE is bound by a timeframe -- the production of the basic Rustom UAV with electro-optic and SIGINT payloads by July 2010, and full-scale delivery to commence by January 2012, followed by Mk-2 variants with a SAR capability.

 

[bigmoneymaker]

i think you need to buy the necessary and critical parts of operational uav to speed up this project again.....

 

[Iggy]

i think you need to buy the necessary and critical parts of operational uav to speed up this project again.....

We have our own UAV inducted in to the Army..google Lakshya UAV