VEVAK
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You don't read well. It has 4x the cannon mountings (not the trailer) but this whole contraption has been placed on the carriage of an Oerlikon twin 35mm AAA gun. That has a certain weight, irrespective of whether it mounts the twin 35 or the octuple 23. That carriage hasn't gotten any lighter. And you still have the 4 gun sets, with their associated ammo feed and boxes, and azimuth and elevation controls.
So, what I gave you is a range in which the real system weight likely falls, also including the fire control shelter. Because that is what you need in order to compare with the weight of the Oto 76mm mount. That is not difficult to comprehend, even for a half-wit.
If Mesbah 1 is SO INCREDIBLY LIGHT, how come it is mounted on a three axle truck and not a 4x4 Toyota Landcruiser?
By comparison, the German 20mm Flak 30/38 Vierling weighs 1,509 kg, and that has half the number of cannon and feed and munition of the Mesbah. So 2.5-3 tons just for the gunset is reasonable, then there is the extra weigh of using the big Oerlikon twin 35 carriage, and the FCU equipment. So, 3.5 tons is quite a reasonable minimum weight estimate.
Compare also to quad 20mm Polsten:
Mounting weight 3910lb (1777kg)
Platform weight 1320lb (600kg)
Carriage weight 1665lb (757kg)
Total weight of quad gun 6895lb (3134kg)
The Oto 76mm is not only very volume and weight efficient, it is also more allround, and very effective out to greater ranges than Mesbah 1. It would seriously reduce ship effectiveness to replace the 76mm with Mesbah-1.
It depends on what you do with the extra 4 tonnes!!!!
That could increase range, Increase more effective countermeasures against AShMs, Give the ship LACM capability, give the ship longer range Air Defense capability!
You can deploy small fleets of Sina Class ships each specialized in dealing against certain threats! In terms of coast & production capacity it means you can deploy a larger fleet at a faster pace
Iran already has 3-4 Sina Class hauls already built & waiting their turn!
I'm tired of talking about his we just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that!!!!!