New Japan-India alliance will transform Asia

[Whazzup]

I think it is evident that Japan is prepared to make geopolitical shakes by outwardly positioning itself wit the Republic of India. India also is now one of the fastest growing economies in Asia and in the world; surpassing China, as India's growth rate now is in the 7-8% range.

I can tell you, my friend, that there is EXTENSIVE economic cooperation between India and Japan. EXTENSIVE.

We are seeing collaboration across the parameters: economic, social-cultural, political, security-defense.

Japan is a very old and reliable economic partner but I do hope to see more collaboration in Social-cultural front.

Japan Govt to get 26% stake in DMIC project - The Hindu

Japan, which has expressed keen interest in the DMIC project, intends to invest $4.5 billion in the project, which will cover 1,483 km between Delhi and Mumbai, over the next five years.

And not to mention Delhi Metro.

And now this Baby .

 

[Aepsilons]

With the acquisition of the US-2s, the Indian Navy and the Indian Coast Guard will be the undisputed, naval power of the Greater Indian Ocean Region. Also, the US-2s can be easily retrofitted with anti-submarine devices. Not to mention its vast travel potential of over 5,000 km2 range.

Talk about an extra force on your 'Chakra' eh? lol

 

[Spectre]

I think that as Japan and India continue to interoperate, our theaters of operations will be juxtaposed with one another. I am in support of the Indian Navy's Eastern Fleet to have an active role in the securing of the Western Pacific an beyond. The more the better, actually. It is apparent that the US 7th Fleet does not have the capability to ensure total security in the region. This should be seized upon by the JMSDF and the IN. On another note, I should also say that we are seeing greater IN-JMSDF cooperation in the Persian Gulf, and that the IN regularly visits JMSDF's naval base in Djibouti for refueling and strategic resupplying purposes.

So, by all means, we are already operating and cooperating extra-hemispherically TOGETHER. And as what @Whazzup said, it is just the tip of the iceberg.

More to come, I hope.

Fleet interoperablity and learning from each other is something which is mutually beneficial as I have stated and would be great to have that. We are already progressing towards it - however there are issues at the moment which would keep this happening at the background and at a slower pace. Vagaries of international diplomacy and some other factors which I would not like to state now would keep it an occasional thing (like Malabar exercises) for now (next 1 - 2 years).

About juxtaposition of Theatres of operation, I cannot comment much as that is beyond my area of expertise so i would take your word on it.

 

[Aepsilons]

About juxtaposition of Theatres of operation, I cannot comment much as that is beyond my area of expertise so i would take your word on it.

Its not mentioned much on international media sources, but on a bilateral basis, the Indian Navy's Eastern Fleet has a history of interacting with the JMSDF's 1st Fleet forces on various exercises such as anti-piracy boarding, neutralizing and escorting. This has been done in the Bay of Bengal, as well as near the Malaccas Straits.

In fact, some of our onboarding capabilities were influenced by some of the 'techniques' used by the Indian Navy.

And may i add that Indian Navy personnel are operant on "controlled brutality" when dealing with terrorist suspects.

Indian Navy and JMSDF to conduct JIMEX 2013 bilateral naval exercise - Naval Technology

 

[Srinivas]

I agree with you India and Japan need interoperatability between the two navies also both the nations should co operate when dealing with the nations in ASEAN group.

One more area where India and Japan co operate is space.

India is concentrating these days on making its defense industry a robust and technically advanced one, Japan and India can form technical co operation in this regard as well.

I think it is evident that Japan is prepared to make geopolitical shakes by outwardly positioning itself wit the Republic of India. India also is now one of the fastest growing economies in Asia and in the world; surpassing China, as India's growth rate now is in the 7-8% range.

I can tell you, my friend, that there is EXTENSIVE economic cooperation between India and Japan. EXTENSIVE.

We are seeing collaboration across the parameters: economic, social-cultural, political, security-defense.

Exciting times. Thanks again to the Abe-Modi Bhai Bhai....




I think that as Japan and India continue to interoperate, our theaters of operations will be juxtaposed with one another. I am in support of the Indian Navy's Eastern Fleet to have an active role in the securing of the Western Pacific an beyond. The more the better, actually. It is apparent that the US 7th Fleet does not have the capability to ensure total security in the region. This should be seized upon by the JMSDF and the IN. On another note, I should also say that we are seeing greater IN-JMSDF cooperation in the Persian Gulf, and that the IN regularly visits JMSDF's naval base in Djibouti for refueling and strategic resupplying purposes.

So, by all means, we are already operating and cooperating extra-hemispherically TOGETHER. And as what @Whazzup said, it is just the tip of the iceberg.

More to come, I hope.

 

[Tiger Genie]

India and Japan will make a fantastic combination. Both are ancient cultures and india can learn a lot from the Japanese on professionalizing businesses.

 

[21stCentury]

The thing is we all are democratic countries with strong institutions.

So only countries who are western authorized 'democratics' have strong institutions?

Japan is also a 'democratic' but we all know how that happened, don't we? The u.s. Invaded and subjugated imperial empire Japan, cherry picked who will be in Japan's founding 'democratic' government, wrote the entirety of the national constitution of Japan (Japan is the only in the world whose national constitution and ultimate law of the Japanese people is written....by a foreigner.

Just because one country is 'democratic' means absolutely nothing, besides trying to appease western countries lol

 

[Aepsilons]

So only countries who are western authorized 'democratics' have strong institutions?

Japan is also a 'democratic' but we all know how that happened, don't we? The u.s. Invaded and subjugated imperial empire Japan, cherry picked who will be in Japan's founding 'democratic' government, wrote the entirety of the national constitution of Japan (Japan is the only in the world whose national constitution and ultimate law of the Japanese people is written....by a foreigner.

Just because one country is 'democratic' means absolutely nothing, besides trying to appease western countries lol

How academically untrue. Japan was a democracy since the Meiji Restoration. I think it is important to identify that there was a period in time wherein the Military seized control of Government during the late 1920s to early 1930s, which unfortunately led to an unfortuitous military adventurism in Asia and the Pacific. Be that as it may, on a political chronologist point of view and analysis, it is evident that modern Japan (peri-Meiji period onward) has always been a Liberal Democracy. The end of WWII had led to the reorientation of the nation's Liberal Democratic Roots that had been put on hold for a decade or so.

 

[Aepsilons]

Joke of the century.

I do believe you speak out of lack of experience. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread besides insults and derogatory comments, perhaps its best to refrain from posting in the thread.

 

[NALANDA]

I have noted and wonder why.

Chinese go completely silent when India / Japan comes together , be it UN Reforms or our security agreements.

 

[21stCentury]

How academically untrue. Japan was a democracy since the Meiji Restoration. I think it is important to identify that there was a period in time wherein the Military seized control of Government during the late 1920s to early 1930s, which unfortunately led to an unfortuitous military adventurism in Asia and the Pacific. Be that as it may, on a political chronologist point of view and analysis, it is evident that modern Japan (peri-Meiji period onward) has always been a Liberal Democracy. The end of WWII had led to the reorientation of the nation's Liberal Democratic Roots that had been put on hold for a decade or so.

Did the Japanese people elect their own emperor? Democratic or not, DOES NOT determine ones character. You don't need to try appeasing the west/u.s. with being more 'democratic' then the guy next door. It's meaningless.

 

[21stCentury]

I have noted and wonder why.

Chinese go completely silent when India / Japan comes together , be it UN Reforms or our security agreements.

Because underneath the surface it's not a big deal. Considering the u.s is the master of Japan, China only need to focus on taking out the u.s. Think of it like dominos, once the u.s. is knocked down, their minions will naturally fall in line.

As for India, not really concerned at all that much really.

 

[Aepsilons]

Chinese go completely silent when India / Japan comes together , be it UN Reforms or our security agreements.

Indeed, it was the Chinese media that was going on an all-out attack on the Indo-Japanese alliance collaboration in response to UN structural reform. This is in tandem to the Japanese-Indian Military Strategic alignment in the Indo-Pacific Region.

Clearly, the dance of the Indian Lion and the Japanese Crane tantalizes our Dragon friend.

Did the Japanese people elect their own emperor? Democratic or not, DOES NOT determine ones character. You don't need to try appeasing the west/u.s. with being more 'democratic' then the guy next door. It's meaningless.

Ah, therein lies the beauty of the Japanese Legation and Tradition. We have in Japan the rich , millieu of Democratic Principles in collaboration with our millennial Imperial Traditional Processes. A harmony of Heavenly and Earthly politics, i suppose.

The Imperial Office is , correlatively and understandingly, a mixture of religious and spiritual and pseudo-political role. Tho the Emperor has no official role in government, the government is technically His government. You have to put on the lens of the paternalistic role of the Emperor as 'Pater di Patria', which means in Latin, "Father of the Nation".

 

[21stCentury]

Indeed, it was the Chinese media that was going on an all-out attack on the Indo-Japanese alliance collaboration in response to UN structural reform. This is in tandem to the Japanese-Indian Military Strategic alignment in the Indo-Pacific Region.

Clearly, the dance of the Indian Lion and the Japanese Crane tantalizes our Dragon friend.



Ah, therein lies the beauty of the Japanese Legation and Tradition. We have in Japan the rich , millieu of Democratic Principles in collaboration with our millennial Imperial Traditional Processes. A harmony of Heavenly and Earthly politics, i suppose.

The Imperial Office is , correlatively and understandingly, a mixture of religious and spiritual and pseudo-political role. Tho the Emperor has no official role in government, the government is technically His government. You have to put on the lens of the paternalistic role of the Emperor as 'Pater di Patria', which means in Latin, "Father of the Nation".

Oh, I see. In this respect, China too is a traditional democracy as per 'pater do patria' or "father of the nation" because essentially the emperor of China was exactly that.

 

[Aepsilons]

Oh, I see. In this respect, China too is a traditional democracy as per 'pater do patria' or "father of the nation" because essentially the emperor of China was exactly that.

Yes, of course. Imperial China was the progenitor of the Imperial Confucian Dynastic System that was seen not only in China, but in the Greater Confucian Region (China, Japan, Chosen [Korea], and to an extent Vietnam). It would have been interesting to have seen China weather the industrialization and modernization epoch of the 19th to early 20th century. Some academics even debate, discourse, even do conduct research on what vagaries led to the unsuitability of the late Imperial Qing Dynasty. I believe that had Government of the Qing followed with the policy reforms of the Daoguang Emperor (who had a similar progressive mindset as the Meiji Emperor) , then perhaps China would have industrialized effectively. Unfortunately the Xiangfeng Emperor and his heirs did not focus on national revitalization, but more so on Imperial court activities and intrigue.

But we can always wonder "what if".