New Delhi will only discuss Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, says Indian envoy

[war&peace]

I am sure then it will be a monologue of a schizophrenic retarded psychopath

 

[Joe Shearer]

I am sure then it will be a monologue of a schizophrenic retarded psychopath

Oh, that's old news. Pakistan has been peddling its own version of things in Kashmir for years now. Nobody listens - except acne-ridden super-patriots sitting far away in the comfort of the decadent West.

 

[WAJsal]

And you expect us to continue like this? this is childish behavior, something that's keeping us from resolving this issue.

If it's a disputed territory as admitted by Badar Alam, then how is it that Pakistan is allowing China to build the CPEC through it?

It is a disputed territory, the whole region of Jammu and Kashmir is. Kindly, educate yourself about CPEC, it is nothing more than road link between China and Pakistan till Gawadar, GB region of CPEC was completed when Karakoram highway was made, we have only upgraded this highway. CPEC: better connectivity. Your post makes no sense, Karakoram highway was made in the 90's, why didn't you protest then?

 

[war&peace]

And you expect us to continue like this? this is childish behavior, something that's keeping us from resolving this issue.

It is a disputed territory, the whole region of Jammu and Kashmir is. Kindly, educate yourself about CPEC, it is nothing more than road link between China and Pakistan till Gawadar, GB region of CPEC was completed when Karakoram highway was made, we have only upgraded this highway. CPEC: better connectivity. Your post makes no sense, Karakoram highway was made in the 90's, why didn't you protest then?

I think we need to ignore their senseless and useless babbling against CPEC and continue with development (I think this is actually the case) while keep vigil against the enemies of Pakistan. No one is buying their crap and this is frustrating for them and a frustrated nation can do anything so we must be ready for anything.

 

[$@rJen]

It is the legitimate right of people of Kashmir. Let them decide thier fate.

Sir please.... Kashmiris Legitimate right was altered when Pakistan Invaded Kashmir in 47. I'll say this again and again.. Today kashmiris are struggling is because of Pakistanis, if you hadn't invaded a peaceful sovereign country today kashmiris would have enjoyed the freedom. Now please don't try to act as a savior of Kashmir.

You say they've the rights to decide their future, lets go by International (UN) request. that's First Pakistan needs to demilitarize Pakistan Administered Kashmir, to which Pakistan said no.. so again Kashmiris struggling is the sole reason of Pakistan

 

[karakoram]

@karakoram If you aren't in support of 26/11, why am I giving you a negative rating? I quite agree that terrorism has no religion and no territory. What is going on? What did you mean by that post then? Please explain; I am now thoroughly puzzled.

He said your country was left with little margin so replied back that even after 26th 11 your media blame isi and govt directly and they start talking about send su 30 for limited strategic strike but it was just ballon full of air nothing else nothing happen. We all know that neither ISI nor govt of Pakistan was directly or indirectly involve in 26th 11 attack. It was media who created hype. Non state actors are everywhere and we cannot control them fully. So my reply was in that manner. I don't force you to reverse my negative rating but you should know my view about 26th 11. Regards

 

[Bratva]

Sir please.... Kashmiris Legitimate right was altered when Pakistan Invaded Kashmir in 47. I'll say this again and again.. Today kashmiris are struggling is because of Pakistanis, if you hadn't invaded a peaceful sovereign country today kashmiris would have enjoyed the freedom. Now please don't try to act as a savior of Kashmir.

You say they've the rights to decide their future, lets go by International (UN) request. that's First Pakistan needs to demilitarize Pakistan Administered Kashmir, to which Pakistan said no.. so again Kashmiris struggling is the sole reason of Pakistan

Pakistan invaded kashmir because you had annexed two pakistani territories and Hyderabad as well. Remember Junagarh ? And besides, Kashmiris revolted against dogra raaj as well as Gilgit scouts. We came to their help. Just as India came to Hyderabad and Junagarh hindus help. Pray tell how come indians actions are justified while when Pakistan does the same, it becomes an invasion and illegal acts of Pakistan ?

You should lie less. Do you consider us some kind of fools who would readily believe kashmir was peaceful under dogra raaj ?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Pakistan invaded kashmir because you had annexed two pakistani territories and Hyderabad as well. Remember Junagarh ? And besides, Kashmiris revolted against dogra raaj as well as Gilgit scouts. We came to their help. Just as India came to Hyderabad and Junagarh hindus help. Pray tell how come indians actions are justified while when Pakistan does the same, it becomes an invasion and illegal acts of Pakistan ?

You should lie less. Do you consider us some kind of fools who would readily believe kashmir was peaceful under dogra raaj ?

I think you should learn your history a little better before quoting from it, falsely.

1. There were no two Pakistani territories annexed.
2. Hyderabad was made to accede LONG AFTER Pakistan invaded Kashmir.
3. Junagadh was NEVER occupied. It was abandoned by its ruler and its Dewan alike, its Dewan handing over the administration to M. N. Buch who had nothing whatsoever to do with the state but was the nearest Indian officer.
4. Kashmiris never revolted against the Dogra Raj; the Mirpuris did. Not one of them speaks Koshur. The Gilgit Scouts did and Gilgit-Baltistan was also not ethnically Kashmiri.
5. There was no question of help. The decision was that of the sovereign prince to accede to either contiguous province. He did. Pakistan immediately lost her rights to do anything with the situation, but had already invaded.
6. If you claim that the sovereign prince of Junagadh had acceded to Pakistan, you should remember that Indian troops were never present on Junagadh; they went into two enclaves. The Nawab was warned by Mountbatten that the lack of contiguity with Pakistan made his accession invalid, but he continued, until he thought he MIGHT be invaded, at which point he fled to Karachi. He was soon followed by his Dewan, who handed over the state to an Indian officer, as mentioned above. India then held a plebiscite in Junagadh. WITHOUT UN intervention, be it noted.
7. If you claim that the sovereign prince of Hyderabad acceded to Pakistan, he never did. He wanted to stay independent, and it had been made clear to the princes that they would become sovereign on the 15th of July, but they would not be recognised as Dominions if they tried for independence on their own. The Hyderabad police action took place long after Kashmir was invaded, so there can be no causality.
8. You should read more. The Vale of Kashmir, under the National Conference, had been inclined to the Congress from years before, and stayed loyal to their leader, Sheikh Abdullah. There was no resistance there, except the resistance groups formed by the National Conference to fight the qabailis.

Read next time, before you post.

He said your country was left with little margin so replied back that even after 26th 11 your media blame isi and govt directly and they start talking about send su 30 for limited strategic strike but it was just ballon full of air nothing else nothing happen. We all know that neither ISI nor govt of Pakistan was directly or indirectly involve in 26th 11 attack. It was media who created hype. Non state actors are everywhere and we cannot control them fully. So my reply was in that manner. I don't force you to reverse my negative rating but you should know my view about 26th 11. Regards

I appreciate your post. It seems i jumped to a premature conclusion. Amends have been made. It only remains to apologise.

 

[Dragon4]

Pakistan invaded kashmir because you had annexed two pakistani territories and Hyderabad as well. Remember Junagarh ? And besides, Kashmiris revolted against dogra raaj as well as Gilgit scouts. We came to their help. Just as India came to Hyderabad and Junagarh hindus help. Pray tell how come indians actions are justified while when Pakistan does the same, it becomes an invasion and illegal acts of Pakistan ?

You should lie less. Do you consider us some kind of fools who would readily believe kashmir was peaceful under dogra raaj ?

Pakistan tried to annex a princely state X on the pretext of your so called "help". Precisely because of this,the then ruler of the princely state tilted towards India and asks for help in return of accession of his state with India.
Now, the moment it becomes a part of India, you are not threatening sovereignty of X which was a princely state before but now you are playing with India's!
X can be peaceful or not, how does it matter to you? How many other countries did Pakistan invade that time for "helping"? How many countries in today's world are not peaceful? - why not sending your troops to those countries for " help".
Do not mix your "help" with your obsession over X.

 

[Jat Boy]

Pakistan is a arid dry country mostly.

they have a small peicve of lush green KASHMIR where there is more water

THEY WANT LUSH GREEN ND AND THE RIVERS THAT FLOW THROUGH THEM TO STOP PAKISTAN TURNING INTO A DESERT

 

[$@rJen]

Pakistan invaded kashmir because you had annexed two pakistani territories and Hyderabad as well. Remember Junagarh ? And besides, Kashmiris revolted against dogra raaj as well as Gilgit scouts. We came to their help. Just as India came to Hyderabad and Junagarh hindus help. Pray tell how come indians actions are justified while when Pakistan does the same, it becomes an invasion and illegal acts of Pakistan ?

You should lie less. Do you consider us some kind of fools who would readily believe kashmir was peaceful under dogra raaj ?

@Joe Shearer has given you clear answer.. first please learn a proper history

 

[unbiasedopinion]

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Hai to pakistani flag but why all the flags of pakistat upside down. Check karo kahin jisko favor samajh rahe ho ussi pakistan ke flags jalane le ja rahe ho...

 

[Joe Shearer]

The minute these Pakistani stop interfering in Kashmir, Kashmir is solved.

@Neutron

Why do you say so? I think it is the essence of the problem. If Pakistan does not finance, train and infiltrate armed terrorists, there would be no problem in Kashmir. And there would be every possibility of a meaningful dialogue.

Try to understand this: India will not negotiate with Pakistan as long as there is an ongoing effort by Pakistan to win its point by fostering terror. By doing that, by interfering, Pakistan is only retarding the process.

 

[prasadr14]

inshaAllah, one day we will have Pakistan Kashmir back into India's fold..

 

[Joe Shearer]

inshaAllah, one day we will have Pakistan Kashmir back into India's fold..

We SHOULD NOT.

The people of Gilgit-Baltistan and of Mirpur clearly don't want to be part of India. Why drag a toxic portion back into the nation?