New Chinese stealth fighter heightens dilemma for Indian Navy

[Paan Singh]

No China, No copied Weapons, better World!

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[kkacer]

Europeans, USA stolen Chinese technologies - No China, No Modern Weapons!


Gun Powder, Gun, Cannon, Rocket, Tank, Steel, Landmine, Paper, Compass, Printing all are invented by Chinese.

Some people often claim West are superior based on "their" inventions. But as this Discovery Channel documentary shows, Europeans merely copied many inventions that originated in China.

No China, No Modern Weapons, No Modern World!

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-technologies-no-china-no-modern-weapons.html

 

[帅的一匹]

He is right.Rafale locked even f-22

Chinese surely have quantity edge over india but not quality.
You ppl can surely copy the air frames but not other than this as u proved earlier

When F22 play real game, Rafale is no more than a dead meat.

 

[selvan33]

No it will be a dangerous threat for us once they starts to induct their CBGs

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

No China, No Modern Weapons, No Modern World!

All hail the power of China

 

[Paan Singh]

Some info about j-20

Though peculiar forms of the jet and technical decisions allegedly realized in the vehicle might be questionable, one thing about this plane is an established fact.
As of now, the J-20 flies with two Russian AL-31F jet engines it borrowed from the Russian Su-27 fighter jet that entered Chinese service in the mid-1980s.
China also tried to put engines of their own on a second test J-20 vehicle, but the copycat of the Soviet engine AL-31F made by China is not in the same league as the Russian analogue for reliability and durability.
The real problem is both AL-31F and Chinese version are engines of the previous generation.
No question the Chinese jet is a prototype model and technology demonstration vehicle called to test new equipment and technology. Defined as a technology showroom, it may fly whatever engines its creator considers possible. But China has no working engine for a 5G jet.
Despite the fact that China tries to sell clones of the Russian jets at discount prices on the international arms market ($10 million for a J-11, while the Russian original Su-27 is well over $30 million), China continues to buy Russian engines and certain parts of these engines in quantities that far exceed the necessity to do routine maintenance of the Russian planes they use.
Chinese dependence on Russian engines can only be explained by technological inferiority of Chinese engine-building.
Beijing has found itself in a position when getting a decent 5G fighter jets with complying engines means buying engines in Russia, because no other country will sell them anything similar.

Actually, any negotiations with China always come to the following: they try to buy a small lot [of arms] for examination and possible further replication. Naturally, Russia is aware of such risks and refuse to sell arms in small quantities,” said Vasily Kashin, explaining China’s canny moves to obtain missing technology.

China’s copycat efforts
For many years China has been the biggest buyer of Russian military planes. Overall it has bought 178 fighter jets of only Su-27/Su-30 family – until producing a successful copycat of it, named J-11.
They also replicated Russian deck-based fighter Su-33 (J-15), Su-27 fighter jet (J-10), Su-30 (J-11), MiG-29 (FC-1).

Chinese dragon with Russian engines

Kashin predicts that after long negotiations Moscow and Beijing will finally strike a separate jet engine deal and Russia will supply engines for the J-20 program, the way it already supplies engines to all four major types of Chinese fighter jets which are actually copycats of Soviet-made planes.
“Buying the Su-35 to dismantle its engines to put on J-20 would be madly expensive for the Chinese,” said Kashin.
“The J-20 is a very technically-risky project because there is no guarantee that Chinese will be capable to put into shape by 2017 several systems they are developing for the project, including special munitions and an active phased array antenna of they own in-house design,” Kashin told RT.
The J-20s will most likely fly with Russian engines for years before they make a reliable engine of their own, Kashin said.

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[Backbencher]

When F22 play real game, Rafale is no more than a dead meat.

Thats right but i bet Rafale is better than anything that your copycat Plaaf has to offer

 

[Paan Singh]

When F22 play real game, Rafale is no more than a dead meat.

Pilots who did this know more than you ..

bunch of inferior indians finding excuses for their complexity``lol

a joke nation cannt even make a reliable AK copy `` I guess when J-31 is in service LCA will still be in test flight and Russians will keep hiking prices and delay delivery for their down graded toys to India````

Just showing you mirror so that you can stop brain farting with copies :/

 

[selvan33]

We need a few Rafales for our navy , if not now then maybe after a couple of years .

without aircraft carrier how we are going to operate rafaleM.

 

[rcrmj]

I am done from these chinese copies .
They dont know that any fighter take trials and huge amount of sorties to have final FOC.Even f-22 and f-35 who started development decade back are not properly operational.

AS a suggestion,PLAN should firstly learn to use that casino

pull out your brain from your arse to explain its a copy, and also how do you know PLAAF did not contuct enough test flights before inducting fighters````kid please do not confuse China efficieny with primitive Indian efficiency

 

[sachin@india]

pull out your brain from your arse to explain its a copy, and also how do you know PLAAF did not contuct enough test flights before inducting fighters````kid please do not confuse China efficieny with primitive Indian efficiency

it is not inducted...

 

[Paan Singh]

pull out your brain from your arse to explain its a copy, and also how do you know PLAAF did not contuct enough test flights before inducting fighters````kid please do not confuse China efficieny with primitive Indian efficiency

I have my parts at correct location unlike yours ..so called LCA had completed 1800 flights and still looking for FOC ..

You zombies start to jump on first flight and make it available for whole world .

F-35 is under development from decade and still faces problem and where u stand? any guess..

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

No it will be a dangerous threat for us once they starts to induct their CBGs

run run hide.

 

[sasi]

They may have a fighter earlier,but it needs to perfect carrier doctrine operations, it will take a decade. That time we have our own ones.
/ on discovery program we know it was funded by two famous chinese companies... One has hq at xi...
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[rcrmj]

Some info about j-20














Chinese

as usual some random blog news, we are talking about developing and building modern fighter jets not primitive Indian assembly skills (like the flying coffin HAL assembled and maintaned Mig-21s, rubbish AK copies INASA, etc)```