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Nice! Does it say much about PAF evaluating and considering the Panavia Tornado and Ukrainian Su-27 in the 90s? I'd like to know about which versions of Tornado the PAF was considering and how many.
Interesting, I didn't know we evaluated the Tornado. If we did, we most likely evaluated the Air Defense upgrade version (Panavia Tornado ADV). The one before was primarily for moving earth. And yeah, we definitely evaluated the Su-27 at some point, but I'm not sure if it was Ukrainian or Russian.
I agree, it would be terrific if the book could highlight these.
is it only available online? can it be found on ferozesons or anyother big book store?
Nice! Does it say much about PAF evaluating and considering the Panavia Tornado and Ukrainian Su-27 in the 90s? I'd like to know about which versions of Tornado the PAF was considering and how many.
i got it directly from key publishing - on-line for BP 25/- air-mail. I believe you can order it at Oxford U Press book stores but u have to pay in advance!
What's the isbn #
Nice! Does it say much about PAF evaluating and considering the Panavia Tornado and Ukrainian Su-27 in the 90s? I'd like to know about which versions of Tornado the PAF was considering and how many.
You're right, the second official PAF history book mentions the evaluation of the Su-27, Mirage-2000s, Swede Grippen etc. (but I don't remember it mentioning the Tornado) to fulfill the high-end role for the PAF. It was quite informative the second one.According to "The Story of the PAF (1988-98) - A Battle Against The Odds," written by a joint team of retired PAF officials led by Air Marshal Rasheed Sheikh, states "Between late 1990 and 1993, it (the PAF) evaluated and rejected the British Tornado, took a close look at the Mirage 2000E, and received a misleading offer from Poland for the supply of MiG-29s and Su-27s." I guess I was wrong, I'm sure I read somewhere about Ukrainian Su-27s.
Really, sir? I thought that Tornado ADV was dubbed the original "MRCA". I know this because Canada was part of the project initially, along with Britain, Holland, Germany and Italy (or was it France?). Then The Canadians opted out for the F-18, the Dutch opted for the F-16 and only the Brits and the Germans were left, with the design of the aircraft done entirely by the Brits. I imagine that if so many countries were involved in the design of Tornado ADV, then surely, it must have has MR capabilities?Eval of Tornado is mentioned in the new book. However the Su-27 and Mig-29 evaluation is covered in Book #2 in fair detail. Both of these aircraft were evaluated in detail by the PAF in Russia (PAF did not like the Mig-29 but wanted Su-27 upgraded before purchasing but geo-political considerations got in the way). I suspect Tornado was most probably declined on the basis of its dedicated role and lack of MR capability.