New Bomb For Iran-The mob (usa bomb)

[Nima]

haha pretty sweet

what do you think iriaf's future back bone would be? mig29m/m2?

I don't think they even know it themselves.
At this point they have made the right decision.

Our enemies are Israel and the USA. These two countries will ALWAYS have a better air force than us no matter what. We have to find ways to counter them and spending $ on jets isn't one of them. Saddam was too stupid to realize this and got his *** royally kicked.
At this point they are just trying to have a numerical advantage with w/ever planes they have and upgrade them with modern radars. An F-14 with a modern radar is still a force to be reckoned with when used for defence. Iran was trying to make its own fighter based on a scrapped Russian design but in the end they just scrapped the idea. Spending money on missiles and the navy is far more advantageous to us at this point. Iran will have a "crappy" air force until we are sure that we don't have to fight the Americans.

 

[graphican]

I have a technical question here. Can such Massive Ordinance Penetrator not be defended using the principles that are used to protract tanks?

If I had a facility 200 feet underground and of immense survival importance, I would built multiple lyres of defensive bombs that would explode and neutralize penetrating impact of any incoming bomb like MOP along with short range missiles like Anza-III that would detect the bomb after it is released from stealth bomber and tend to destroy that in the air before it would collide with the ground. Now suppose my secret facility was attacked with this bomb, what would be chances of survivability of the deep underground facility???

 

[Nima]

I have a technical question here. Can such Massive Ordinance Penetrator not be defended using the principles that are used to protract tanks?

If I had a facility 200 feet underground and of immense survival importance, I would built multiple lyres of defensive bombs that would explode and neutralize penetrating impact of any incoming bomb like MOP along with short range missiles like Anza-III that would detect the bomb after it is released from stealth bomber and tend to destroy that in the air before it would collide with the ground. Now suppose my secret facility was attacked with this bomb, what would be chances of survivability of the deep underground facility???

I think the problem is the centrifuges. At the speeds that they rotate, even a small shake can cause problems.

 

[Jigs]

That big of a bomb if dropped would (over the part of the site that his underground) would cause it's destruction. Only chance is if Iran's SA-15 sites could pick up a B-2/s on radar. Even though it is old the B-2 is actually more stealthy then the F-117 which is much smaller.

 

[graphican]

I think the problem is the centrifuges. At the speeds that they rotate, even a small shake can cause problems.

In my opinion this is safe to have centrifuges broken instead of getting whole installation bowed off.

 

[GolaniB]

buddy, stop barking
discussions are pointless when you can't do anything
Israel doesn't have enough refueling capacity to get to Iran and back
Israel doesn't have enough jets
Israel can not guarantee that in the case of an attack all the sites are destroyed
Israel can not mount these new bunker busters on its jets
Israel doesn't have a back up plan if its mission fails
Israel will be wiped out if Iran already has a bomb
etc...
There won't be a war, you know it, I know it, the Americans know it and the whole world knows it.

i think it is safe to assume israel is more than capable of taking out iran's nuclear program, or at least delaying it.

according to egyptian arab media, mossad was responsible for a series of black-ops that hindered iran's nuclear progress for many years.

then you have the disappearance of scientists, some seeking refuge in israel.

we really don't know what technology israel has but you can imagine they've been preparing a strategy for quite some time. no way in hell israel would regulate its security to the UN and international sanctions if it didn't have a plan B.

 

[Nima]

i think it is safe to assume israel is more than capable of taking out iran's nuclear program, or at least delaying it.

according to egyptian arab media, mossad was responsible for a series of black-ops that hindered iran's nuclear progress for many years.

then you have the disappearance of scientists, some seeking refuge in israel.

we really don't know what technology israel has but you can imagine they've been preparing a strategy for quite some time. no way in hell israel would regulate its security to the UN and international sanctions if it didn't have a plan B.

way to ignore what I said mate
Did you read what I said? YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY

And do you want me to list the names of all the Soviet scientists that ran away from Soviet Union back in the day??? They still managed to have the biggest arsenal of nukes. A few low key scientists aren't impt.

Israel never prepares for anything, she acts! If they're preparing for Iran than it means they can do **** all. Did Israel bark for a decade before attacking Iraq, syria or Hezbollah????

First get an air force that can do the job then bark

 

[GolaniB]

way to ignore what I said mate
Did you read what I said? YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY

And do you want me to list the names of all the Soviet scientists that ran away from Soviet Union back in the day??? They still managed to have the biggest arsenal of nukes. A few low key scientists aren't impt.

Israel never prepares for anything, she acts! If they're preparing for Iran than it means they can do **** all. Did Israel bark for a decade before attacking Iraq, syria or Hezbollah????

First get an air force that can do the job then bark

Israel doesn't bark.

Israel will attack Iran if the international community cannot deliver decent sanctions.

The only question is, how many bombs isn't going to take and how many Iranians are going to die?

naturally iran will order hamas and hezbollah to retaliate, so we're looking at least 2,000+ arabs killed in lebanon and gaza at a minimum...

 

[KeenGuy]

It is not in the best interest of Pakistan to see a nuclear powered Iran. Even if they are not developing nuclear weapons now and this is peaceful energy they will eventually develop nuclear weapons.

I support Israel and U.S.A. to attack Iran. The Iranians are not our friends. They will get powerful and they will turn on Pakistan. You can't trust them. For the Pakistanis who say that they are our brothers and sisters you are fools and you need to leave religion out of this.

It was the biggest mistake for A.Q. Khan to give nuclear secrets to the Iranians. It was one of the worst things any Pakistani could have done. Hopefully soon Israel and U.S.A. will attack Iran's nuclear power plants before it gets too late.

The Iranians have other means to support themselves (they have the third largest supply of oil in the world) they don't need nuclear power.

 

[Nima]

Israel doesn't bark.

Israel will attack Iran if the international community cannot deliver decent sanctions.

The only question is, how many bombs isn't going to take and how many Iranians are going to die?

naturally iran will order hamas and hezbollah to retaliate, so we're looking at least 2,000+ arabs killed in lebanon and gaza at a minimum...

bro, this isn't a video game.
1) the International community has to deal with China, Russia and Brazil. China imports its oil from Iran at a discounted price and has invested more than 100 billion in Iran in the past decades. Both Russia and China have said that they're only willing to put sanctions if they don't hurt Iran. Brazil is against sanctions all together.

And it's not about bombs. It's about jets.
YOU CAN NOT MOUNT THIS NEW BOMB ON YOUR JETS
YOU DO NOT HAVE REFUELING CAPACITY
YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH JETS
etc...


I'm 100 percent sure that in the Iranian leadership nobody cares about Israel. Americans can attack Iran but you can't.

btw bro, Iran has nearly 80 million people today. During the Iran Iraq war we had 40 million and lost about 1 million people. That's 1/6th of your population. Even if we loose 20 million it won't bother us. We will get our nukes and nobody will do jack ****. In the next 15 years Iran will enter the nuclear club and the sanctions will be removed.

 

[Nima]

It is not in the best interest of Pakistan to see a nuclear powered Iran. Even if they are not developing nuclear weapons now and this is peaceful energy they will eventually develop nuclear weapons.

I support Israel and U.S.A. to attack Iran. The Iranians are not our friends. They will get powerful and they will turn on Pakistan. You can't trust them. For the Pakistanis who say that they are our brothers and sisters you are fools and you need to leave religion out of this.

It was the biggest mistake for A.Q. Khan to give nuclear secrets to the Iranians. It was one of the worst things any Pakistani could have done. Hopefully soon Israel and U.S.A. will attack Iran's nuclear power plants before it gets too late.

The Iranians have other means to support themselves (they have the third largest supply of oil in the world) they don't need nuclear power.

And also the second largest natural gas reserves in the world.
But we will get our nukes sooner or later.

One thing I never understand is why would a Pakistani be worried??? The only thing we have in common with Pakistan is the Baluchistan region and we're dying to get rid of those backward creatures. Even if we would get bold after acquiring nukes Pakistan would be the last place on this round planet that we would invade. There is a million better places like Bahrain, Iraqi oil fields, a Persian speaking country etc...
what are you worried about exactly????

 

[U-571]

ooohh!!, this is one special thread, a couple of israelis, turks, indians, pakistanis, palestinians and iranians fighting a war here lol.. never saw such a diversity in any thread before..

 

[gambit]

And it's not about bombs. It's about jets.
YOU CAN NOT MOUNT THIS NEW BOMB ON YOUR JETS
YOU DO NOT HAVE REFUELING CAPACITY
YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH JETS
etc...

C-130s unloading MOABs...

GBU-43/B / "Mother Of All Bombs" / Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb

Like the BLU-82, the MOAB rests in a cradle on an airdrop platform inside a C-130 aircraft. Due to the size of the ordnance, the item is extracted from either an MC-130 Talon II or “Slick” C-130 Hercules by way of a parachute. A drogue parachute extracts the weapon, cradle and platform—and the weapon is quickly released to maintain maximum forward momentum. The grid fins then open and begin guiding the weapon to its target.

Escorted by fighters with only external tanks and air-air missiles. After their deliveries, the force turn out to sea to be air refueled by US for the return home.

 

[Nima]

C-130s unloading MOABs...

GBU-43/B / "Mother Of All Bombs" / Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb

Escorted by fighters with only external tanks and air-air missiles. After their deliveries, the force turn out to sea to be air refueled by US for the return home.

lol that makes no sense
There are 54 locations in Iran that have to be bombed (minimum). They're all over the place. There have to be 10 different groups of jets which makes them vulnerable and each have to get back at different time.
Plus, if the US wanted to get involved they would just do it themselves and they don't want to get into a fight in the next couple of years. You don't have the refueling capacity and the US doesn't want a war.
Also I'm no military expert but aren't those C-130s easy to shoot down!?

 

[kugga]

Iran will never fight with Pakistan they are our brothers and we want a strong Iran......