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#NeverForget: 11 minimalistic posters that will bring out the Pakistani in you

You mean you didn't, most of us did. The other two girls wounded in the girl, talked to the media afterwards, their condition was stable.
I see....but they are not in UK nor are the OTHER girls who have gone down the same path!

Tell me how many of these girls/ women have you heard of or do you mean to tell me not a single voice apart from Malala's exist in Pakistan regarding educating girls?


Cest Lavie! You are highly mistaken if you think that everyone is treated fairly by life. Why her and not me isn't a valid reason to declare someone traitor or raise suspicions on a person/thing.
I am not interested in lime light, giving myself was a better example than giving someone else's child as an example of being shot!

And yes it is valid enough to raise suspicion considering the fact that soo many OTHER girls STILL continued to go to s school in the SAME VILLAGE as her after she was shot...THAT is some courage that deserves a noble prize not running away and hiding and preaching ....if that was the case, Altaf Hussain should also get a prize so should every other politician who screwed, ran away and preaches from a far!

You live in the West, miss. Whats the reason for acting like Pakistanis to declare everything a conspiracy? There are multiple witnesses of the attack, a whole van of school girls who have bore testimony to the fact.
I never said the shooting is wrong....I am not concerned about her the least bit when it comes about the shooting....I am more concerned about OTHER people shot and never given even 1/100th the attention she gets!

A blogger for BBC

Her father ran one of the last schools to defy Taliban orders to end female education. As an 11-year-old, Malala — named after a mythic female figure in Pashtun culture — wrote an anonymous blog documenting her experiences for the BBC. Later, she was the focus of documentaries by The New York Times and other media outlets.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/w...i-survives-hit-by-pakistani-taliban.html?_r=0

A blogger is not really someone...you mean to say 1 post from Swat at the age of what 11 makes her a blogger? :unsure:


After the shooting, Yousafzai was airlifted to a military hospital in Peshawar, where doctors were forced to begin operating after swelling developed in the left portion of her brain, which had been damaged by the bullet when it passed through her head.[47] After a five-hour operation, doctors successfully removed the bullet, which had lodged in her shoulder near her spinal cord.
I have read they were 2 bullets....but no idea how 1 bullet can swim from being lodged in the head (needed to be removed by operation) to the shoulder


Some of the girls pointed her out. At least one gunman opened fire, wounding three girls. Two suffered non-life-threatening injuries, but bullets struck Malala in the head and neck.

Malala's journey from near death to recovery - CNN.com

On Tuesday, masked Taliban gunmen answered Ms. Yousafzai’s courage with bullets, singling out the 14-year-old on a bus filled with terrified schoolchildren, then shooting her in the head and neck. Two other girls were also wounded in the attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/w...i-survives-hit-by-pakistani-taliban.html?_r=0

You asked for a cent of money she spent in the education of children in Pakistan, didn't you?
Yes, and it still doesnt show...If I am not wrong Angelina Jolie gave her fund some 200,000 or was that the total...I am asking where is all that going?

Would she be a hero if she died in the attack by Taliban (Pakistanis beloved)? Or even then my dear countrymen would have raised suspicions, believed that the girl shot herself, called as a foreign agent and labelled it all a conspiracy?
No she wouldnt be writing books and living in the West now would she?

No one is calling the dead children on our soil as foreign agent!
 
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Those who had followed news would know what kind of apology it was. And would that arrogantly issued statement that some forecfully want to call apology where usa had never accepted her crime, cud that stupid statement ever undo the damage purposefully inflicted???

And salalah wasnt the first time nato had purposefully entered our territory and killed our soldiers , but salalah was one downright major incident of such human rigths violation that had shown west's uglier face even more brazenly.

But still wow at the reasoning.
 
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No Fatima Jinnah ? :(
Fatima Jinnah who?

AH Kardar, Haneef Mohammed, Jahangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Islah uddin, Kaleem Ullah, Sami Ullah, Hasan Sardar, Ahmed Faraz, Ahmed Nadeem Qasmi, Mehdi Hasan, Ustad Amanat Ali, Dr. Amjad Saqib... the list is long but we are talking about who? Malala, Sahrmeen Ubaid, how low we, as a nation, have sunken.

It literally gives me fits when I see the level of general knowledge of our youth.
 
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Fatima Jinnah who?

AH Kardar, Haneef Mohammed, Jahangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Islah uddin, Kaleem Ullah, Sami Ullah, Hasan Sardar, Ahmed Faraz, Ahmed Nadeem Qasmi, Mehdi Hasan, Ustad Amanat Ali, Dr. Amjad Saqib... the list is long but we are talking about who? Malala, Sahrmeen Ubaid, who low we as a nation have sunken.

It literally gives me fits when I see the level of general knowledge of our youth.
Not many ppl know that malala had started writing under the name of gul makai, the whole plan ws chalked out by abdul hayi,the bbc journalist who had published her blogs. It wasnt her who was writing, she was just a name used,obviously it was someone else who was writing those blogs. They used 2 publish in newspapers in peshawar. Even in those blogs when our jawans weere losing life in sawat operation , her pen was spewing hate for them.

She wrote in a blog abt swat op ,along the lines, hamari army kuch mahi karti bas soldiers yahan bakray roast kar kay khatay hain. Well....u can google and find the video of captain junaid , najam's parents and families who had lost them in that op. I saw those vids few months back. Their parents were crying in their interview.......

Do u know what ,her identity was revealved to the world by none other than the same ppl this bbc journalist,and dawn news cameraman irfan ashraf and cia operative who posed as a journalist called adam ellick who had made her documentary called class dismissed. Its the same ppl who brought her into the picture, later revealed her identity for serving their own agenda, then later she got shot....welll ...and then west found a better opportunity in using her this way than how they were previously using her.

Do ppl think the whole murky game that was played under malala's name is not known by our army and perhaps isi. I am sure they know better than that.
 
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Sahrmeen Ubaid
Why should you have a problem with her? I thought she did good to highlight a hidden sickness! Not that her documentary made any difference (same shit still happens), still she tried...

Sure the list needs more people....
 
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No she wouldnt be writing books and living in the West now would she?

No one is calling the dead children on our soil as foreign agent!

Living in the west and writing books is wrong? What is your current location? :D

You would have, had they survived and received some lime light in the West, maybe invited for a speech or lecture, offered residency. Its a common Pakistani habit.

Yes, and it still doesnt show...If I am not wrong Angelina Jolie gave her fund some 200,000 or was that the total...I am asking where is all that going?

You merely asked about a single cent (or dime), the girl might have invested in the education of children. So how does it not show now? I am unaware of that, will look for that news.

Here's more though, Malala to spend Nobel prize money on education in Pakistan - thenews.com.pk

I have read they were 2 bullets....but no idea how 1 bullet can swim from being lodged in the head (needed to be removed by operation) to the shoulder

You having no idea makes it false or impossible? It does happen, the bullet can divert from its path once inside the body, this wasn't the first instance of that. I am surprised that you are even arguing over that fact.

A blogger is not really someone...you mean to say 1 post from Swat at the age of what 11 makes her a blogger? :unsure:

Not really unknown either.

I never said the shooting is wrong....I am not concerned about her the least bit when it comes about the shooting....I am more concerned about OTHER people shot and never given even 1/100th the attention she gets!

I have given you, the reason for that. You are free to disagree. There are more capable people on this forum than me (there must be) yet I am the chairman of TT Analysts. Would you call that a conspiracy too?

I see....but they are not in UK nor are the OTHER girls who have gone down the same path!

Tell me how many of these girls/ women have you heard of or do you mean to tell me not a single voice apart from Malala's exist in Pakistan regarding educating girls?

They received help from the Govt of Pakistan however didn't go to Britiain or any other foreign country for that matter. Life didn't treat them fair.

No other women was subjected to the same treatment by the opposing forces. Importance is really measured by the adversarial response and perception of threat.

And yes it is valid enough to raise suspicion considering the fact that soo many OTHER girls STILL continued to go to s school in the SAME VILLAGE as her after she was shot...THAT is some courage that deserves a noble prize not running away and hiding and preaching ....if that was the case, Altaf Hussain should also get a prize so should every other politician who screwed, ran away and preaches from a far!

They weren't shot and the Malala episode raised the national awareness about Taliban position of women education.
 
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Why should you have a problem with her? I thought she did good to highlight a hidden sickness! Not that her documentary made any difference (same shit still happens), still she tried...

Sure the list needs more people....
We have had better directors/producers who failed to earn recognition because their work and theme was/is not anti-Pakistan NGO-supported and shared by foreign directors/producers.
 
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We have had better directors/producers who failed to earn recognition because their work and theme was/is not anti-Pakistan NGO-supported and shared by foreign directors/producers.
That is typical! And they go bonkers when proclaiming that in Middle East you need a sheikh partner...

Though I failed to see the "anti-Pakistan NGO supported" bit... :unsure:
 
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Do ppl think the whole murky game that was played under malala's name is not known by our army and perhaps isi. I am sure they know better than that.

And explain again by another conspiracy of course, on why did military or intelligence community never once said anything in this regard and on the contrary praised her for her bravery? Whats with seeing ghosts in the darkness, when there's nothing that exist? Furthermore, you fail to explain in your little fantasy story (which I have heard before) on how did her attackers (foreign agents of course, the pious Taliban would never do that) make sure that she had to be shot in the head but just enough to cause "apparent" damage and not be entirely dead or handicapped for her entire life. How does one do that? :rofl: Because the CMH report was clear in this regard where Malala was first brought to before being shifted to Armed forces institute of cardiology in Rawalpindi and later to Britain, even if the girl survived (a very big when she was brought to hospital), she would sustain brain damage.
 
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Believe me OP.
Fatima Jinnah and Arifa Kareem are a much much bigger inspiration in heart of Pakistanis as compared to Malala and Sharmin Abeed.
 
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That is typical! And they go bonkers when proclaiming that in Middle East you need a sheikh partner...

Though I failed to see the "anti-Pakistan NGO supported" bit... :unsure:
How many acid burn cases happen in Pakistan? in millions, thousands? Not that problem does not exist but not to a level where you film and entire documentary on it. My issue with the foreign -funded NGOs is this that they highlight negativity while hypocritically ignore any positive thing that happens in Pakistan. I love to give example of Dr. Amjad Saqib's 'Akhuwat', an NGO that distributes interest-free loans to needy people (primarily women) and help them to start their own businesses. Almost 95% loans are returned back and those who initially benefited from these loans become donor to 'Akhuwat'. Tens of millions of rupees have been distributed through Akhuwat. We talk about Grameen bank that gives off loans to poors (but on interest) but because that system in line with Western approach or economical system, it is presented as a miracle, which it is anything but. You'll never find anybody making a documentary on 'Akhuwat' or nominating Dr. Amjad Saqib for Nobel prize because anything that brings out positive side of Pakistan is simply indigestible to West and her supported NGOs.
 
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And explain again by another conspiracy of course, on why did military or intelligence community never once said anything in this regard and on the contrary praised her for her bravery? Whats with seeing ghosts in the darkness, when there's nothing that exist? Furthermore, you fail to explain in your little fantasy story (which I have heard before) on how did her attackers (foreign agents of course, the pious Taliban would never do that) make sure that she had to be shot in the head but just enough to cause "apparent" damage and not be entirely dead or handicapped for her entire life. How does one do that? :rofl: Because the CMH report was clear in this regard where Malala was first brought to before being shifted to Armed forces institute of cardiology in Rawalpindi and later to Britain, even if the girl survived (a very big when she was brought to hospital), she would sustain brain damage.
No, i believe they wanted 2 kill her, and its her good luck that she survived . I never denied her shooting. THAT THING HAD REALLY REALLY HAPPENED.

does the recent killing of sabeen , the social activist, rings a bell in some people's minds.
 
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Living in the west and writing books is wrong?
exaggerating is def wrong!

You would have, had they survived and received some lime light in the West, maybe invited for a speech or lecture, offered residency. Its a common Pakistani habit.
The only country so far who took steps was Turkey who invited the kids and their parents over....Dont hear them giving speeches on BBC/ CNN and whatnot

You merely asked about a single cent (or dime), the girl might have invested in the education of children. So how does it not show now? I am unaware of that, will look for that news.
I asked proof of the money BEING USED as in USED not BEING SAID IT WILL BE USED...

Again more talk I want proof of the money in action....schools built, women's lives changed...Not just talk but the actions!

You having no idea makes it false or impossible? It does happen, the bullet can divert from its path once inside the body, this wasn't the first instance of that. I am surprised that you are even arguing over that fact.
I am surprised you are arguing over this and calling it fact!

There is a remarkable difference between the neck and shoulder...

Then there is BBC/CNN vs Wiki! :azn:

Not really unknown either.
Not really known ...How many people who blog get noble peace prizes? :pop:

I have given you, the reason for that. You are free to disagree. There are more capable people on this forum than me (there must be) yet I am the chairman of TT Analysts. Would you call that a conspiracy too?

Are you being funded by the West? Are you bad mouthing Pakistan like some stuck up kid? Are you exaggerating facts? Wait you just might be :woot:

PDF is a forum posting here wont make you get a noble peace prize then again the prize is prob just a joke...

Lets put it this way...If anyone on the forum gets shot, NO foreign hospital will give them free medication....

They received help from the Govt of Pakistan however didn't go to Britiain or any other foreign country for that matter. Life didn't treat them fair.
1 article does say others also went to UK....then again many articles talk BS!

No other women was subjected to the same treatment by the opposing forces. Importance is really measured by the adversarial response and perception of threat.

Importance is given to whom the TALIBAN or the girls? So one needs to be shot in the head before they can get their voice heard on a larger stage?



Do we know this girls name? THAT is all she is described as and there are many more but none took the limelight nor ran away to claim to work from abroad.....There are people who are working on the ground where shit is happening they arent even given half the attention Malala is given!

At a women’s medical college I visited, a student told me she was from the Swat valley where she had gone to a school run by nuns. When her school was bombed by the Taliban, she saw her school friends maimed or killed. She had lost her own father in the conflict in her area. Yet here she was, determined to be a doctor, away from home and working hard.

There are thousands of girls like Malala here | British Council

Did you know about Huma Khan?

Malala Isn't Alone: Another Pakistani Girl's Dream

Huma Khan.

Huma is no celebrity. In fact, she is just an ordinary bright-eyed kid, no different from many, many million others in this part of the world. Yet she has much in common with Malala: She is 15 years old, and an ethnic Pashtun.

Like Malala, her family originates from northwestern Pakistan, an area where tradition runs deep, and whose people — overwhelmingly Pashtuns — tend to practice a profoundly conservative form of Islam.

And, again like Malala, Huma is hugely enthusiastic about going to school: "I really want to get more education," she says, perching on the edge of her wooden chair. "I want to become something. I want to be self-reliant."

Yet "becoming something" for a Pakistani girl, trapped by poverty and strict religious codes, is a truly daunting challenge.

Malala Isn't Alone: Another Pakistani Girl's Dream : NPR



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What about Nabila Rehman?

'Nabila who?' great many will ask of the other Pakistani girl who has been casting light on a far more uncomfortable truth: drones strikes in the North Waziristan.

Nabila's story is no less moving. The 10-year-old girl survived a drone attack in 2012 (she was eight then) and has testified before the US Congress to describe the horror of these attacks. Hussain notes that the strike killed Nabila's grandmother Momina Bibi, severely injured seven children.

Nabila, along with her 13-year-old brother who survived the attack and her father Rafiq ur Rehman, a Pakistani primary school teacher, appeared on Capitol Hill last November to testify against the US drone strike and demand justice. But where the US Congress was sufficiently moved by Malala's heroism to award her a Congressional gold medal, only five out of 430 representatives showed up for Nabila's testimony, as the Al-Jazeera report points out.

The Guardian report describes Nabila's account of the attack, "Everything was dark and I couldn't see anything. I heard a scream. I think it was my grandmother but I couldn't see her. All I could think of was running." Her testimony was so moving that even the translator broke down in the midst of the hearing. But none of it could quite compare to the power of Malala's story which has a far more palatable villain, ie the big, bad Taliban.

Husain argues this vast discrepancy between the reception of the two Pakistani girls reflects the United States' priorities, where Malala "was seen as a potential tool of political propaganda to be utilised by war advocates," to justify the war on terror, which can then be portrayed as crusade to liberate Muslims from their oppressors.

Nabila's story, on the other hand, turns the spotlight on the actual human costs of the war on terror, and puts a face to what is otherwise dismissed as 'collateral damage'. She puts the focus on the tough questions about civilian deaths in drone strikes (close to 900 people according to an Amnesty International report last year), about torture, illegal imprisonment and more.

Where Malala allows Americans to play the role of the knight in shining armour, Nabila's tale casts Americans inevitably in the role of villains. Last year when Malala wasn't given the Noble peace prize, Max Fisher in theWashington Post argued that "the entire West [was] trying to co-opt Malala, as if to tell ourselves: 'Look, we're with the good guys, we're on the right side. The problem is over there.'"

"While Malala was feted by Western media figures, politicians and civic leaders for her heroism, Nabila has become simply another one of the millions of nameless, faceless people who have had their lives destroyed over the past decade of American wars," writes Hussain.

There will be no Nobel prizes for Nabila, no fawning acknowledgements of her heroism, no tears of sympathy for the plight of Pakistani girls like her, who leave alone the right to education, are not even accorded the right to life.

The other Pakistani girl: Malala got the Nobel peace prize; here is why Nabila won't - Firstpost


How many acid burn cases happen in Pakistan? in millions, thousands? Not that problem does not exist but not to a level where you film and entire documentary on it. My issue with the foreign -funded NGOs is this that they highlight negativity while hypocritically ignore any positive thing that happens in Pakistan. I love to give example of Dr. Amjad Saqib's 'Akhuwat', an NGO that distributes interest-free loans to needy people (primarily women) and help them to start their own businesses. Almost 95% loans are returned back and those who initially benefited from these loans become donor to 'Akhuwat'. Tens of millions of rupees have been distributed through Akhuwat. We talk about Grameen bank that gives off loans to poors (but on interest) but because that system in line with Western approach or economical system, it is presented as a miracle, which it is anything but. You'll never find anybody making a documentary on 'Akhuwat' or nominating Dr. Amjad Saqib for Nobel prize because anything that brings out positive side of Pakistan is simply indigestible to West and her supported NGOs.
I guess it is human nature to feed off the "oh poor you" line...

Usually the oh poor you are "neglected" and NEED the world stage....The positive side on the other hand usually requires people to ADVERTISE IT THEMSELVES....

It is the same case...You will see weeks of news about the big bad Taliban and somehow link that to Islam but never about the Muslims who do something good...
 
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As an 11-year-old, Malala — named after a mythic female figure in Pashtun culture — wrote an anonymous blog documenting her experiences for the BBC. Later, she was the focus of documentaries by The New York Times and other media outlets.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/w...i-survives-hit-by-pakistani-taliban.html?_r=0

A blogger is not really someone...you mean to say 1 post from Swat at the age of what 11 makes her a blogger? :unsure:

In one of her interviews to a local tv channel she showed her desire to join politics and become national leader. Criticizing talibans at the same time, she was crossing red line somewhere.

Btw Malala isn't a girl but every girl who strives to go to school. Why do we see Malala as one girl. In fact Nobel Prize goes to every Pakistani girl.
 
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