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Nepalis demand India to free their land, protest on India I day

no way should any land be handed over to the Nepalese...we Indians fought the british...while the Nepali royalty was busy pleasing the Britons...Nepal did not suffer what we have endured...they signed the treaty to save their a$$es from British occupation of Nepal...they made their deal...why do they want to backtrack on it now?

Not you Indians it was the subcontinent that fought against the British.

You Indians have been grabbing Nepali land over the years on one pretext or other. And you have taken advantge of lack of gaurds on Nepali side by stealing their land.

The Nepali British deal is just one incident. What about the other areas of Nepal which India had occupied??
 
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This way Pakistan belongs to India but this is crape to ask. It is treaties which remains solutions for the borders.
 
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Take your crap about NWFP to some other thread as well as Kashmir.
As far as NWFP is concerned it is part of Pakistan and we the people of NWFP voted for joining Pakistan in 1947 even when you bhartis were banking on Bacha khan, but we slapped you by voting for Pakistan. And the refrendum was one of the most fair one in the history of the world because it was held by the Britishers who were on your side not ours.
Kudos to the bravado! I accuse thee of emotional atyachar!! tch tch. My point on NWFP was that the Pak forces are doing their job against a segment of the population who have taken up arms against the writ of the Pakistani state. Now the PA doesn't treat them with kiddie gloves now, does it?
So we are justified in conducting operation against any miscreant.
Exactly! And They are doing a fine job.
On the other hand Kashmir is not part of India. Kashmir is on UN resoultion and an international dispute.
Wrong, Kashmir is an integral part of India, whether YOU like it or not. Its on the UN table only because of efforts of Pakistani diplomatic corps when US was your BFF. Nobody bother us anymore.
If your Indian army kill people in Indian Punjab for taking up arms against you, then you are justified. But NOT in KASHMIR.
Wrong again! Indian govt forces are fully justified in killing any moron who is insane enough to pick up a gun against GoI authority! Plain and simple, and it applies to any and every part of India. Period.
Btw, didnt Pakistan say that Khalistan was a legitimate POV of the people back in the days and gave their 'moral' support to those Khalistanis? We all know how it turned out. And now you say Punjab was a part of India all along? Oh my, why the dilly-dallying? Wait and thou shall repeat the very same words regarding Kashmir in the near future. Theres a Master Plan afoot! Ask the notorious troika of CIA-MOSSAD-RAW along with MI6
Now come back to the real topic. "Nepalis want their land back from occupying India.'
Again, it was signed away by the Nepalis to the British India authorities back in 1816 and NOT occupied by India. Show me a source where it says Nepali territory was occupied by the Indians. I know you cannot!
 
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And what about that land which India used for establishment camps in Nepal against China during 1962 and now the Indians as usual are claiming it to be their territory.

What claim? What territory? Source?
 
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Not you Indians it was the subcontinent that fought against the British.

You Indians have been grabbing Nepali land over the years on one pretext or other. And you have taken advantge of lack of gaurds on Nepali side by stealing their land.

The Nepali British deal is just one incident. What about the other areas of Nepal which India had occupied??

the whole subcontinent was one entity back then...and the people were called Indians.
what 'other areas' are you talking about?
 
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Its 2009, nothing is going to change. India and Nepal are and always will be on the same side. There are millions of Nepalis living peacefully in India, some even serve in the military. These guys are just looking for some attention, never mind them, they need votes too. The border with Nepal is non negotiable.

I'm tired of Pakistanis accusing India of 'stealing land'.

Pakistan has done its fair share of land grabbing too. You half succeeded in Kashmir, took over Baluchistan, the Afghans don't recognize the Durand line either.

So Jana, before you tell us how hypocritical we are, I would like you to take a look in your own backyard. Give the Baluchis their freedom, give the Kashmiris their freedom and most of all, give the Afghans their land back.
 
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We have liberated one part when we were not even strong.

And we have enough guts which have forced you to keep thousands of soldiers in Kashmir, who are killing innocent Kashmiris. Raping innocent Kashmiri women and brutaly killing innocent Kashmiri youth specially the Educated Kashmiris in fake enocunter.

carry on and on and on.......... :blah::blah: :yawn::yawn:
 
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Not you Indians it was the subcontinent that fought against the British.

You Indians have been grabbing Nepali land over the years on one pretext or other. And you have taken advantge of lack of gaurds on Nepali side by stealing their land.

The Nepali British deal is just one incident. What about the other areas of Nepal which India had occupied??

why don't u point out what lands.. instead of blabbering other areas....
 
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indian-pm,

Please post something intelligent. Not whatever you can make up from your...

Thanks.
 
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What claim? What territory? Source? Show me a source where it says Nepali territory was occupied by the Indians. I know you cannot!

Indian infringement over Nepal border Area

THE history of demarcation of India-Nepal border began on March 4th, 1816, after the signing of the "Sugauli Treaty" between the then British India and the state of Nepal, which declares River Mahakali, of Nepal, as the border-line between both the countries. The Treaty was expected to resolve the border issues, but it did not. Even after such a long time, the dispute regarding the border and the no-man's land area is being ensued now and then in different areas of Nepali border.

The reason for the continuation of such dispute is that the rivers, counted on as border, diverged from their courses several times in the past. Interestingly, 595 Km of the border is defined by rivers. Mechi in the East, Mahakali in the West and Naryani in the Susta area, and the unavailability of old maps and documents to revise demarcations has made the situation more significant.

The Central government of India deputed its Para-military security guards of special services bureau (Shastra Seema Bal) along the border where as to counter guard the Nepali side of border-line, presence of Nepali security is almost nil! Taking advantage of the ignorant attitude of Nepalese towards border guard, India started encroachment of the border land. She has said to encroach over 60,000 hectares in 21 of the bordering districts, by now. There has been a lot of hue and cry over the encroachment by Nepali people which unfortunately fell on the deaf ears of the giant called India.

India surrounds Nepal from the East, West and South. There is a 1,808 km long border between Nepal and India, where 26 districts of Nepal adjoin Indian Territory, marking 54 areas of disputes altogether where the main ones include Kalapani- Limpiyahura, Susta, Mechi and

Tanakpur. There is often found an opportunistic overtone in both countries regarding the ownership of such disputed border points. Hence, to resolve the issue, an India-Nepal Joint Technical Level Boundary Committee has been set up in motion which is still to find a reasonable solution for this false encroachment issue.

The encroachment by India started right after the Indo-Sino border war of November 1962. After facing defeat the Indian army set-up a camp inside Nepali's territory at Kalapani to monitor the Chinese activities. But now they claim that the area belongs to them.

However, reports prepared by Buddhi Narayan Shrestha, former director general of the Department of Survey Nepal, corroborates that the maps of 1850 and 1856 prepared by the Survey of India with the participation of Nepalese authority clearly states that the river originates from Limpiyadhura, 16 km North-West of Kalapani, which proves that Kalapani belongs to Nepal.

But India refuses to accept those maps as proof. They say that the map prepared by them in 1875 should be considered as proof which shows river Mahakali origin is beyond Kalapani. Interestingly, the said map does not have Nepal's certification.


The other disputed area situated in the East of Naryani River, is the Susta area, which is the tensest area owing to encroachment. Some time ago, over one thousand Indian villagers backed by Indian border police force (SSB) had forcibly entered the Nepali territory in Susta. They completely destroyed sugarcane in about ten hectares of land and also manhandled men and women.

Where the locals of Susta complain such incidents are rampant in the area. The main reason behind the dispute is the changing course of Naryani River, over the past decades. The river has said to change its course towards the Nepalese side in the West. India has encroached about 14,000 hectares of the reclaimed land because of this. The intrusion happened in stages over a period of 73 years. Considering the situation, the people of Nepal had launched a "save Susta campaign".

The organizers requested students of Nepal to join them and launch a valley wide campaign from Nepal's capital Katmandu. The purpose of the campaign was to inform the world about the wicked plans of her "polite" neighbor India. Actually the reason to start off the border dispute at Susta side is that Susta is surrounded by Indian Territory on three sides -the North, South and East, and on the West it is the Naryani River. Hence, cutting off Susta from its mother land becomes much easier for India to occupy it which will pave her closer to the "Greater India" dream of Hindus.

The other most talked about point of dispute is Mechi. India's disapproval of "Junge pillers" as the main boundary pillars has sparked the Mechi border dispute. The map published by the British India right after the Sauguli Treaty clearly indicates those pillars to be the main boundary pillars. Even history is evident that British had erected those pillars as monuments of Nepal-India border. But the credit goes to the Indian desire of getting control over weak and tiny neighbours which made her to incite the dispute by denying the original Sauguli Treaty signed by the British and the Nepal Kingdom.

According to the official records, Nepal covers a total area of 147,181 Sq Km. But in reality, the territory of Nepal is gradually shrinking because of the increasing encroachment by India. The Maoists Young Communist league (YCl) once submitted a memorandum to the Indian embassy Katmandu, demanding immediate return of the encroached land by the Indians in Susta area but later the political havoc in Nepal made everything go vanish for some time.

They demanded that scientific demarcation of the border land must be done as per historical maps, the encroached territories should be given back to Nepal and the bilateral bordering area should be regulated. The district level of Nepal and India earlier agreed not to allow the use of encroached land for any purpose and put the issue at the central level for the resolution of the problem. But despite the agreement Indian farmer have been cultivating in the disputed area. More than 125 Bighas of Nepali land has been encroached by Indian farmers in year 2007 alone.

The Nepal-India joint Technical level Boundary Committee has supposed to have completed 98% of the task of strip-mapping the border, as per 1874 Persian map adopted by the committee. According to them all the disputes, except Susta and Kalapani, have been resolved. But when the border is traced in the field, many instances of encroachment are found. The unwisely decision of Nepalese side of accepting the Persian map as the basis of demarcation has made them deprived of 1630 hectares of their own land, which now lies in Indian territory. The border committee somehow, could not act the way it ought to. It failed to take firm decisions regarding border disputes at several places, such as the presence of Indian Paramilitary force in Kalapani since 1962.

The amusing part is that India ignoring all her regional disputes is always eager to malign Pakistan by making her a part of every Indian dispute (with whom so ever it may be). And her practice is same even in this land dispute problem. Propaganda against Pakistan is the main instrument of Indian Intelligence. Exposing Indian hegemonic designs, Nepali media says that although India grumbles a lot of the India-Nepal open border being misused by the ISI, it is actually India's own intelligence agency which is blatantly exploiting the open border.

Today every tom, dick and Harry knows that the Terai agitation was actually fueled by India. Earlier when Nepal was a kingdom, India used to supply arms and ammunition to the warring fractions of the Terai and gave safe sanctuary to its leaders, as exposed by a visiting team of United Nation Mission in Nepal (UNMN).


The Research and Analysis Wing of Indian Intelligence (RAW) is active in Nepal for the last 40 years, earlier it was only the Intelligence Bureau (IB), operating from there. Experts say that due to open border and special relations with India and Indian association in political changes in 1950, 1990 and 2006, it has become easy for RAW to perform disguised role in Nepal. Raw is not only involved in creating instability and disturbing peace in the Asian region but its name is also associated with terrorism.

India has many interests in Nepal to fulfill which it has gradually made her strong political, diplomatic, economical and cultural influence there, all due to RAW's efforts. Her main strategy is to keep Nepal instable and always dependent towards India. In this regard, she has supported arms to the establishment as well as anti-establishment groups in Nepal, according to the former Prime Minister BP Koirala's biography.

The untrustworthy nature of India is evident from the past. She has a history for formulating efforts on multiple fronts to weaken the already fragile country to facilitate its swallowing. It is high time when all the Nepalese, currently divided among various political affiliations, should come together against the onslaught, instigated by India, in

Nepalese territory and understand the game-plan of their so-called considerate neighbors. And India also should realize that the flame she has ignited in Nepal can very well extend to its own northern flank and the unstable southern part as well.

Indian infringement over Nepal border Area | South & Central Asia | World News
 
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If Nepal wishes to recapture it's lost land, it will have to engage in tactical fighting. Nepal ought to join hands with China, and build it's defence and military capability. I'm sure others would suggest Nepal take legal action against India at international forums, but Nepal as little as it is, I doubt it would succeed and knowing India's manipulation there's little chance of that succeeding.

Pakistan can also play a role by providing Nepal with a good Defence deal, POF can play a good role here.


There needs to be closer interaction between Pakistan-Nepal-China-Bangladesh we all have a common problem therefore it maybe wise to solve it together.
 
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I think india should buy these lands from them after compensating nepal appropriately, if required, these are small areas of lands we are talking about.

And india should fence off their territory as i read somewhere better fences make better neighbours.
 
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Indian infringement over Nepal border Area

THE history of demarcation of India-Nepal border began on March 4th, 1816, after the signing of the "Sugauli Treaty" between the then British India and the state of Nepal, which declares River Mahakali, of Nepal, as the border-line between both the countries. The Treaty was expected to resolve the border issues, but it did not. Even after such a long time, the dispute regarding the border and the no-man's land area is being ensued now and then in different areas of Nepali border.


Indian infringement over Nepal border Area | South & Central Asia | World News

I didn't ask for YOUR opinion, seems to be an article YOU posted on the website, without any references to boot!
Give me a well researched article with references from a credible source, and not from an obscure website.

ps: nicely written, if only it had some credibility! Zehra? (I thought u were a guy!)
 
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I didn't ask for YOUR opinion, seems to be an article YOU posted on the website, without any references to boot!
Give me a well researched article with references from a credible source, and not from an obscure website.

ps: nicely written, if only it had some credibility! Zehra? (I thought u were a guy!)

:) I am a girl and for your information this is not my opinion but the background of Indian stealing Nepali land which had been written by someone else and posted by someone Zehar on this website.

And i am not zehra i am Jana.


Now coming back to your demand of reference although the above piece is with all the reference ranging from British to the commissions and all such parties who had been raising the issues.

Still let me post some more for you
 
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