Nehru sought US assistance during 1962 Indo-China war

[kasper95]

I'm not insulting Muslims. Learn to read.

It is a truth that the "Muslims of the subcontinent" are a separate nation.

After all, that was what the British said right? And the basis for the first partition.

If you don't agree, then does that mean you want to undo the Partition?

I am very clear in what you ment ,you know that.

and regarding people of subcontinent joining together that could be possible in future.
I am still waiting for you to provide link about your claim on kaul.

 

[911]

China is derived from Qin/Chin, which is very much a Chinese name.

Fake theory

Kashmir and Northeast India are the ones under Indian occupation, and given that India will soon have the number 1 largest Muslim population in the world, another Partition is inevitable.

take your medicines then post.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am very clear in what you ment ,you know that.

Your assumption is wrong, you guys really are the same as Nehru aren't you?

and regarding people of subcontinent joining together that could be possible in future.
I am still waiting for you to provide link about your claim on kaul.

Not Kaul, but the Indian Army.

I assume you've read the link, but I'll quote it here:

This changed on February 24, 1962, when Tezpur-based XXXIII Corps, commanded by the respected Lt Gen Umrao Singh, ordered nine new border posts, included one between Tawang and Bhutan, at the tri-junction of Tibet, Bhutan and India. This post became famous as Dhola. Captain Mahabir Prasad of 1 Sikh established Dhola Post on June 4, 1962, on what Henderson Brooks reveals was China's side of the McMahon Line.

The HBR blogpost says in August 1962, XXXIII Corps admitted to Eastern Command that its post was wrongly sited but not that it was on Chinese territory. Aware of the consequences, XXXIII Corps suggested that the army play innocent. It wrote, "…to avoid alarm and queries from all concerned, it is proposed to continue using the present grid reference."

Henderson Brookes is frank in his assessment: "This, in effect, meant that the post was actually north of the McMahon Line."

The consequences were not long in coming. On September 8, Dhola Post was surrounded by some 600 Chinese soldiers. Instead of wriggling out from this uncomfortable position, the army chose an aggressive response. The HBR blogpost recounts that, on September 12, four days after Dhola was surrounded, the Eastern Command chief, Lt Gen L P Sen, told Lt Gen Umrao Singh, and GOC 4 Division, Maj Gen Niranjan Prasad that the "Government would not accept any intrusion of the Chinese into our territory. If they come in, they must be thrown out by force."

Nehru knew that Dhola post was on the wrong side of the line, and instead of admitting his mistake, he ordered the Indian Army to "throw the Chinese out" (of our own land).

But you failed miserably. Even a starving China can beat India with ease.

 

[911]

But you failed miserably. Even a starving China can beat India with ease.

Your people were starving not millitary. And you take too much pride in famine. Still same mentality right?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Your people were starving not millitary. And you take too much pride in famine. Still same mentality right?

India was the one who attacked China when we were dying from a famine.

And you still lost. How the Hell do you attack a starving man and still lose? Is it for the same reason why 1 billion Indians couldn't get a single gold medal at the last Olympics?

As a reward, you got a humiliating defeat, the loss of a large amount of territory, and a nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Well done. You are welcome to try Forward Policy 2.0 at any time, if you have the guts that Nehru had.

 

[Nilgiri]

Is it for the same reason why 1 billion Indians couldn't get a single gold medal at the last Olympics?

How China trains its children to win gold - standing on a girl's legs as young boys hang from bars | Daily Mail Online

Yeah no thanks. Keep your medals. We dont need to indulge in reckless inferiority-ridden propaganda like you Hans.

As a reward, you got a humiliating defeat, the loss of a large amount of territory, and a nuclear-armed Pakistan.

How do we lose territory unless you accept it was ours to begin with?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

How China trains its children to win gold - standing on a girl's legs as young boys hang from bars | Daily Mail Online

Yeah no thanks. Keep your medals. We dont need to indulge in reckless inferiority-ridden propaganda like you Hans.



How do we lose territory unless you accept it was ours to begin with?

Hans? The word Han is already plural.

And when even tiny countries like Uzbekistan and Croatia can get multiple gold medals each, it is ridiculous that 1 billion Indians could not get a single one.

 

[911]

India was the one who attacked China when we were dying from a famine.

And you still lost. How the Hell do you attack a starving man and still lose? Is it for the same reason why 1 billion Indians couldn't get a single gold medal at the last Olympics?

As a reward, you got a humiliating defeat, the loss of a large amount of territory, and a nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Well done. You are welcome to try Forward Policy 2.0 at any time, if you have the guts that Nehru had.

Getting gold medals in Olympics is the merit for military capability? Who made you think tank?

It was barely a full scale war, only few thousand soldiers. Nehru hesitated , didn't use air force, he didn't wanted war to escalate because war was not our intention at first place.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Getting gold medals in Olympics is the merit for military capability? Who made you think tank?

It was barely a full scale war, only few thousand soldiers. Nehru hesitated , didn't use air force, he didn't wanted war to escalate because war was not our intention at first place.

War was not your intention, give me a break.

From the Indian Army's own internal report, the Henderson-Brooks report:

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war - Times of India

Yeah, I'm sure India just "happened" to start the Forward Policy when we were collapsing from famine. Go sell that BS to someone else.

You attacked a man who was starving to death, and you still lost. Simply pathetic.

 

[911]

War was not your intention, give me a break.

From the Indian Army's own internal report, the Henderson-Brooks report:

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war - Times of India

Yeah, I'm sure India just "happened" to start the Forward Policy when we were collapsing from famine. Go sell that BS to someone else.

You attacked a man who was starving to death, and you still lost. Simply pathetic.

Thats a point of view. In your perception you were gaurding your territory and Nehru used 'Forward Policy' on our own territory. That territory happened to be same. So we were just defending not invading.

 

[Nilgiri]

Hans? The word Han is already plural.

Ok just like the word sheep then. Which is quite a relevant description for the CCP controlled masses

And when even tiny countries like Uzbekistan and Croatia can get multiple gold medals each, it is ridiculous that 1 billion Indians could not get a single one.

And what did all these medals do for China when it invaded Vietnam? Couldn't reach Hanoi, couldn't get the Vietnamese to withdraw from their ally Cambodia...basically the Han military got egg on their face, turned tail and retreated....even when armed with nukes and a vastly larger military apparatus.

Thats why you will always be a paper tiger that no one takes seriously...the natural state of your fighting capability was proven quite handily in the Japanese invasion of China.

I mean on one hand you say we "lost territory" in 1962, and on other hand you say it was India that invaded China. I ask you again how do we lose territory that isn't ours (according to you?)

Maybe make up your mind on that first instead of bringing up topics that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.

 

[dadeechi]

India was the one who attacked China when we were dying from a famine.

And you still lost. How the Hell do you attack a starving man and still lose? Is it for the same reason why 1 billion Indians couldn't get a single gold medal at the last Olympics?

As a reward, you got a humiliating defeat, the loss of a large amount of territory, and a nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Well done. You are welcome to try Forward Policy 2.0 at any time, if you have the guts that Nehru had.

India did not attack China rather it tried to defend Tibet from Chinese occupation but failed.

That does not mean that India recognizes Tibet as part of China.

India still hosts Tibetan government in exile and would continue to fight their cause.

It is immaterial if any country in the world recognizes Chinese position or not.

India's position on this issue has been clear and has never changed or will change.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Thats a point of view. In your perception you were gaurding your territory and Nehru used 'Forward Policy' on our own territory. That territory happened to be same. So we were just defending not invading.

The "Forward Policy" involved setting up Indian military outposts BEYOND the MacMahon line, in territory that India never claimed.

That's why it's called the "Forward" Policy.

Now that was bad enough, but to make matters worse, Nehru told the Indian Army to: "Throw the Chinese out".... even though it was the Indian Army who was setting up military outposts in undisputed Chinese territory!

That is not India "defending" by any definition of the word. Since India's own maps showed that they were far beyond their own claim lines.

The fight started at the Dhola post... north of the MacMahon line, in undisputed Chinese territory.

That's according to India's own internal army report. Next you'll be telling me that the Indian Army is on China's payroll.

 

[911]

The "Forward Policy" involved setting up Indian military outposts BEYOND the MacMahon line, in territory that India never claimed.

That's why it's called the "Forward" Policy.

Now that was bad enough, but to make matters worse, Nehru told the Indian Army to: "Throw the Chinese out".... even though it was the Indian Army who was setting up military outposts in undisputed Chinese territory!

That is not India "defending" by any definition of the word. Since India's own maps showed that they were far beyond their own claim lines.

The fight started at the Dhola post... north of the MacMahon line, in undisputed Chinese territory.

That's according to India's own internal army report. Next you'll be telling me that the Indian Army is on China's payroll.

Forward policy was Nehrus plan to cut off supply from Chinese who were already allegedly in Indian soil. It was not to capture any Chinese territory ever.

 

[chhota bheem]

The "Forward Policy" involved setting up Indian military outposts BEYOND the MacMahon line, in territory that India never claimed.

That's why it's called the "Forward" Policy.

Now that was bad enough, but to make matters worse, Nehru told the Indian Army to: "Throw the Chinese out".... even though it was the Indian Army who was setting up military outposts in undisputed Chinese territory!

That is not India "defending" by any definition of the word. Since India's own maps showed that they were far beyond their own claim lines.

The fight started at the Dhola post... north of the MacMahon line, in undisputed Chinese territory.

That's according to India's own internal army report. Next you'll be telling me that the Indian Army is on China's payroll.

Dude come 1962 ,you start cut copy paste.how many times you have to answered and still you keep repeating the same.we have debated atleast 10 times ,china did what it did because the people where getting restless and CCP and Mao where in danger being overthrown by the ordinary people who where dying due to hunger.

1962 was to divert focus from actual internal chinese issues and save power by their leaders.