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Negotiators representing Pakistani Taliban‘Without sharia, TTP won't accept talks’

It seems its strategy of Pakistan army to politically isolate TTP to know the real enemy behind them, after all such type of long insurgency can't be continued without outside or hidden inside anti-state elements help......its getting more and more interesting ....real faces will start emerging soon....
 
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So are we selling Pakistan out yet to these fake Sharia preachers or not?

Perhaps this is what the Pakistani people want? No more dates at Centaur boys and girls.

So what's new?

This is how the negotations will pan out:

Taliban side: "Hum Shariah ka nifaz chahtay hain"

Govt: "Nhn, woh nhn ho sakta".

Taliban: "Theek hai phir, yeh muzakraat band kar dain, Khuda Hafiz"

Govt:"Khuda HafiTz".

What if.. it goes like

Taliban side: "Hum Shariah ka nifaz chahtay hain"

Govt: "Bilkul, Jaise aap hukum karein,, agar ijazat ho tu hum aap ke negotiating panel ko Shariah implementation advisory panel bana dein?".

Taliban: "Theek Shu, Par ennu saath saath tussi sab se pehle FATA mein sadi shariat nafiz kane ki chooth de dein...nu bia galh karien gein.. "

Govt:"Allah Aap pe barakat nazil kare.. Pakhair Raghle pai"
 
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The lack of clarity on this is killing me. Can anyone answer these questions to clear things up a little?
  1. Does anyone in Pakistan really know what needs to get done? Seems like everyone is confused and unable to take any concrete decision on the approach toward peace.
  2. Is our military not capable of taking on the TTP? If yes, then what's stopping them?
  3. Why is our government so keen on negotiating with them? The TTP don't seem much interested given their ridiculous prerequisites for talks.
  4. If there's a process for talks in progress, why are there still non-stop attacks across the country?
  5. Which foreign states are supporting the TTP? (sans conspiracy theories)

Serious and knowledgeable answers please

Any articles that explains the situation rationally and without bias?
 
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We should keep trying, one day they will agree to give up their demands.

Beating a dead horse eh? Negotiations should always be done from a position of strength, it is time Pakistan butchers a couple hundred of their cadres and forces them into Afghanistan. Make them be the ones who want to negotiate.
 
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Im afraid these talks are doomed, Sharia is good, but the TTP version of Sharia not a chance, the second demand is that all Nato forces withdraw from Afghanistan is not Pakistans concern. Afghanistan is a sovereign country that's for them to decide.
 
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Sad to see a bunch of terrorists making demands of a Nuclear Power with world's 7th largest Army.

lol thats Afghan Taliban who are fighting Freedom wars ,,,, TTP is CIA and RAW trained and they do not have any offices any where
Please post some proof of TTP being trained by CIA and RAW?

And why would Pakistan negotiate with agents of CIA and RAW in the first place?

And why would these TTP listen to Christians and Hindus and why would USA and India be interested in creating a Sunni Extremist state in Pakistan?

Some of the questions that arise from the iditoic conspiracy nonsense that CIA and RAW are behind TTP.

This conspiracy theory is so absurdly stupid that not a single Pakistani politician has dared mentioned it in the world's press for fears of being mocked. Even Imran Khan.
 
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The lack of clarity on this is killing me. Can anyone answer these questions to clear things up a little?
  1. Does anyone in Pakistan really know what needs to get done? Seems like everyone is confused and unable to take any concrete decision on the approach toward peace.
  2. Is our military not capable of taking on the TTP? If yes, then what's stopping them?
  3. Why is our government so keen on negotiating with them? The TTP don't seem much interested given their ridiculous prerequisites for talks.
  4. If there's a process for talks in progress, why are there still non-stop attacks across the country?
  5. Which foreign states are supporting the TTP? (sans conspiracy theories)

Serious and knowledgeable answers please

Any articles that explains the situation rationally and without bias?
The best answer of all your question is : TTP also don't know what they want.
 
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Time to crush these bastards under tanks.

We should keep trying, one day they will agree to give up their demands.

I think the only way they will sincerely negotiate is when they have a bruised face and a broken back. So far they have been buying time for something we should be worried about happening soon.

What a virus from hell these backward Tali-fuks are! They cant live properly with a single religious norm and want to implement sharia (their own version) through out the country.
 
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Does anyone in Pakistan really know what needs to get done? Seems like everyone is confused and unable to take any concrete decision on the approach toward peace.
Because the decision makers are scared of taking the RIGHT decision.
Is our military not capable of taking on the TTP? If yes, then what's stopping them?
Yes they are very much capable. Govt and Media are stopping them. Stop bashing PA and start supporting them. They will bash the culprits.
Why is our government so keen on negotiating with them? The TTP don't seem much interested given their ridiculous prerequisites for talks.

"Bili kay Kwab Main Chichray" aur Nawaz Sharif kay khwab main amir ul momeneen bana". That simple.

If there's a process for talks in progress, why are there still non-stop attacks across the country?

Because TTP does not want to talk very obvious from their demands and statements.

Which foreign states are supporting the TTP? (sans conspiracy theories)

1. KSA
2. UAE (mainly Baloch insurgents)
3. I wont name it because another front will start
4. of course uncle sam through their Raymond Davis(s)
 
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I knew from the beginning that these Mullahs will never accept peace.......
 
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ISLAMABAD: Negotiators representing Pakistani Taliban insurgents said Wednesday there was no chance of peace in Pakistan until the government embraces Islamic Sharia law and US-led forces withdraw completely from neighbouring Afghanistan.

The tough conditions appear to deal a blow to hopes that peace talks with the Pakistani government could end the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) insurgency that has rocked the country since 2007.

Maulana Samiul Haq, the head of the TTP's three-man talks team, told news agency AFP there could be “no peace” in the region while there were still US troops across the border.

His comments were echoed by his fellow TTP negotiator Maulana Abdul Aziz, who also said the TTP's long-held commitment to imposing sharia law across Pakistan was not open to debate.

“Without sharia law, the Taliban won't accept (the talks) even one per cent,” he said. “If some factions accept it, then the others won't accept it.”

“Their real agenda is sharia,” Aziz said, suggesting that all Pakistan's secular courts based on the common law system be abolished.

“I don't think the government will accept this but they should, because war isn't the way forward.”

On Afghanistan, Aziz said an endorsement of the security pact with Washington would scupper hopes for regional peace.

“We think these (Afghanistan and Pakistan) are two brotherly countries. Peace in Pakistan means peace in Afghanistan and vice versa,” he said.

If Afghanistan signs the agreement, he said, “war will continue, and the clash between Muslims and the US will continue.”

“If the agreement goes ahead, then the losses they (US) have experienced before, they will experience once again,” he added.

“If Americans remain in Afghanistan, there will be no peace in the region, it will be same, it will be unsafe,” said Samiul Haq.

Talks expected to begin tomorrow

Meanwhile, the coordinator of the government’s four-member committee said that peace talks are expected to begin in a day or two.

Speaking to DawnNews on Wednesday, Irfan Siddiqui said that negotiations between the two committees would take place soon. He, however, added that the time and place for the meeting had not been determined as yet.

Initial peace talks failed to get under way Tuesday when the government delegation refused to meet the militants’ negotiators, citing confusion about the make-up of their team.

However, Siddiqui said Wednesday that ambiguities regarding TTP negotiating team had now been clarified.

Siddiqui said that the government negotiators had no objection to the composition of the three-member Taliban team for peace talks.

He said that the government team wanted to start the dialogue process the previous day, but was waiting for some clarity from the Taliban side. However, he said, the confusion was cleared after a statement by TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid.

The TTP had initially nominated Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan, head of the Darul Uloom Haqqania seminary Maulana Samiul Haq, chief cleric of the Lal Masjid in Islamabad Maulana Abdul Aziz, Professor Mohammad Ibrahim of the Jamaat-i-Islami (JI), and Mufti Kifayatullah, a former lawmaker of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam (JUI-F).

However, Imran Khan and Mufti Kifayatullah later refused to be part of the TTP committee.

In a statement Tuesday, the TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid said that Samiul Haq and his two colleagues had their blessing to go ahead with the negotiations without Khan or Kifayatullah.

“The three-member committee is final now and we have our full confidence in it to hold talks,” he said.
‘Without sharia, TTP won't accept talks’ - DAWN.COM

Should we cry or laugh...............:rofl:
What's the point of such talks then? I thought they would be more reasonable - especially because innocent people and armymen are only getting killed. Not to mention the social problems getting aggravated in areas under their control. Not a mature way to set conditions if they have the best of intentions for the people. But the people of Pakistan will have to make the final call. Best wishes from India. :agree:
 
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wht about coward khan?
werent he the mullha who, just backed out too?
they all are same, for thier own intersts?
Sir, I would kindly request you not to use ''coward Khan'', instead use ''coward Imran'', so it doesnt look like the attack is aimed at an ethnicity, as for the rest IK was a disappointment in these talks, maybe he wanted to be on the government's panel or whatever but it was disappointing to say the least.....
 
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