Negative growth - Pak Army backed Shahbaz Sharif has destroyed the country

[Baghial]

who gave Pakistan 52 billion dollar in 3 years .... lol. Pakistan's only petro chemical bill/petrol bill is over 40 to 45 billion dollars a year, at one point it hit 52 billion dollar. This much foreign exchange flies out of the country every year to GCC oil producers. People don t pay taxes but they have money to fillup GX450 , Prado, and Landcruiser tanks ...

The day Ishaq Dar landed, he cleared all his NAB cases and release 50 crore rupees of his back wages as Senator, plus his house confiscated by NAB for tax evasion.

If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Why would the establishment not let him come in a normal airline rather than send a PAF private jet to receive him? Atleast try to hide they weren’t involved in bringing the crook in.

This was a real duffer move.

Sari establishment ne nawaz nu pehn ditti aa. Majboor establishment. Kahi pehn nu talaq na hojawe.

 

[TheSolution]

I was under the impression that it was the Pakistani army that radicalized them during the Soviet war. In addition, they turned on Pakistan only after Drone attacks and bombings occurred.

This is not a tribal mindset at all. The TTP is against tribal people. There are many people who want to live under Sharia and should be allowed to do so.View attachment 910166

TTP is a proxy of the Afghan Taliban working for Afghan expansionist goals, the same story since 1947. They are ideological and ethnic brothers.

Their Islam is mixed with Pashtunwali supremacy.

They are not a true and pure Islamic movement, but more Pashtun ethno-Islamism.

The state gives fuel to the TTP cause with things like Joyland and LGBT laws, they push moderate folk to see TTP as the only way out to protect their values and religion.

If a truly pure Islamic movement emerged not hijacked by any ethnicity or culture, the army would not be able to stop them.

 

[Enigma SIG]

PDF has become a political brothel. Honestly it’s depressing reading all these garbage threads.

LOL. Tussi paijaan F16 thread bna lo ja k koi mana keeta twanu? Gloria Jeans jao voffee shoffee pio depression khatam.

 

[HAIDER]

If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

Sometimes, banks give you overdraft protection on the bases of the next deposit...lol... i will lend some money and cover the overdraft and penalty fee.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

bahi ji I don't know the reasons that compels you but respect is very difficult to gain and lost at a whim.

respect is a subjective term and a luxury of the peaceful times. people gifted with respect have the ability to grant it. never confuse fear and zealotry with respect.
I never demand respect from others who conduct their social interaction and commentary through emotional intensity.

 

[xyx007]

TTP is a proxy of the Afghan Taliban working for Afghan expansionist goals, the same story since 1947. They are ideological and ethnic brothers.

Their Islam is mixed with Pashtunwali supremacy.

They are not a true and pure Islamic movement, but more Pashtun ethno-Islamism.
It is important to listen to what he is trying to tell you since he was involved in those operations.
The state gives fuel to the TTPs cause with things like Joyland and LGBT laws which push moderate folk to see TTP as the only way out.

If a truly pure Islamic movement emerged not hijacked by any ethnicity or culture, the army would not be able to stop them.

It is important to listen to what he is trying to tell you since he was involved in those operations.

 

[Path-Finder]

respect is a subjective term and a luxury of the peaceful times. people gifted with respect have the ability to grant it. never confuse fear and zealotry with respect.
I never demand respect from others who conduct their social interaction and commentary through emotional intensity.

that is a strange outlook, each their own. So you are at war with PTI but for what will be the victory at the end?

 

[lightning F57]

Think both sides are too far encamped in their own spaces failing to see the short comings within their camps.

One thing is though for sure the establishment biggest screw up was miscalculating the public support IK has, this has been their undoing. When the masses dont support the current corrupt set up everything is going to tank.

 

[Baghial]

Sometimes, banks give you overdraft protection on the bases of the next deposit...lol... i will lend some money and cover the overdraft and penalty fee.

guess what?

you figured out- why PDM- was brought back in govt- by army!

 

[General Dong]

Why would the establishment not let him come in a normal airline rather than send a PAF private jet to receive him? Atleast try to hide they weren’t involved in bringing the crook in.

This was a real duffer move.

it's obvious, they no longer care to hide they are complacent in overthrowing IK government and that they are the defacto true rulers of Pakistan.

If anything the past 9 months have shown establishment, they have nothing to worry about. They can kill someone in broad daylight, and awam will do nothing

 

[truthseeker2010]

PDF has become a political brothel. Honestly it’s depressing reading all these garbage threads.

When the military is headed by pimps. What do u expect people will say about military?

 

[Baghial]

Failed project ‘Imran’​

How did we reach here? These are the fruits of the failed ‘project Imran’, launched to crush the political parties of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and former president Asif Ali Zardari. It was also a continuation of the 75-year-itch that the Pakistani establishment has had of destabilising its own country.

It was promised to be a 10-year plan, with Bajwa and former DG ISI Faiz Hameed taking turns as Army chief, and their ultimate goal being to rig the elections and selecting Imran Khan as the PM. Inspired by the one-party rule in China and becoming a ‘brown’ Xi. In the process, they also do away with the parliamentary form of government and replace it with a presidential one. Parliamentary democracies can only work in Anglo-Saxon countries. We never got the memo that next-door India is an Anglo-Saxon country.

Before the 2018 election, judges were strong–armed by the ISI to give decisions against Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz. One judge mentioned how Faiz Hameed had said that if he didn’t rule against Nawaz, “our two years of hard work will go to waste”. And we all paid for that hard work for the next four years.

There was no opposition leader at the time who was not put behind bars on political cases. Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) leader Hanif Abbasi was sentenced to life in prison in an ephedrine quota case in July 2018, four days before the election. The urgency was that the Rawalpindi seat contested by Abbasi was to be handed to Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad. Whom Bajwa now labels “absolutely useless guy”. Managing media was the biggest part of pre-poll rigging; public rallies of the PMLN were censored and the programmes were dropped across mainstream channels.

From the pre-election to the last four years of government, this group of faujis (soldiers) and their ladla (favourite) politician worked hand in glove. Whether it was former DG ISPR Asif Ghafoor urging the media to report positively for six months, giving time to the government, or making political assessments like, “2018 will be a year of tabdeeli (transformation)” which was a slogan of PTI. Or in the later half, Faiz Hameed showing up in Kabul with a cup of tea for self-promotion: “Don’t worry everything will be okay.” How okay it is with the Afghan Taliban and the resurgence of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) since is a secret to none. Maybe it is as okay as the early retirement of Hameed.

All these men in uniform acted like PTI workers. Yet in a parting speech, Bajwa wondered why Indians don’t criticise their Army as Pakistanis do. Well, to start with, I never heard their Army chiefs bring in a ‘Bajwa doctrine’. That termed the 18th amendment of the constitution, which gave autonomy to the provinces, as “more dangerous than six points of Sheikh Mujib,” the founder of Bangladesh. Also, never read about how the Indian COAS queues up to get egg omelette or which YouTuber he listens to when making a shave. I guess that’s why Bajwa doesn’t hear Indians complain about their chief. And I am not even mentioning the politics of it all!


The biggest beneficiary of these good times on the same page has been Imran Khan — from a tanga party to a one-time prime minister. Today it is laughable when Khan quotes Muhammad Ali Jinnah to Gen Asim Munir to talk about the role of the armed forces within the ambit of the Constitution. All that is fine, but was Imran Khan in deep slumber when he was using the same uniform for his chores?

 

[RealNapster]

What do PTI fanbois think that IK left 120billion dollar in National treasury? They left country in shit state, he depleted reserves at end to try and heavily subsidize petrol for PR stunt and when it was all but confirmed that he won’t stay in power he wrecked it even further so the new government won’t last.
He didn’t achieve shiit to begin with in his rule other than taking on more loans than previous pmln term.
Yet there propaganda has people believing him to be a prophet.
Yes the army rule under bajwa co wasn’t good either, and the sharif government appears clueless but overhyping and celebrating pakistan and the armed forces downfall is pitiful.
IK & Bajwa romance was a corrupt one, never should a political party again bring armed forces into politics or enable them to interfere.
But PDM seems to fancy playing with fire now…

Kaash ye Banda tmhaara walid ya bhai hota. Tab pochta. nawaz, Shahbaz, zardari, Imran khan, Molana, Maryam sab Zindabad.

 

[Conqueror]

@Conqueror
It is about a carefree attitude. Power monopoly makes estab reckless and exposed. They don't orchestrate or hide behind curtains, as they don't need to. Judges, media, politicians conform to their legal/illegal actions. Hence, the estab doesn't use brain but muscle 'To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail' (Abraham Maslow).

Establishment doesn't realise they're strong because they withdraw strength from the law and social approval. They're attacking their own power center and you can't doubt they have an ability to destroy what they hit.

Without law Pak Army would be another armed group using brute force.