When was the last time Pakistan Army fought a battle with any foreign troops.... when we were able to win any significant piece of land captured by enemies of Pakistan and please don't talk about kargal we lost it to India in 1970's .... so many articles about Pakistan army's action in tribal areas and Northern Pakistan makes me wonder as if Pakistan is being conquered by it's own army..U turns or T turns i don't know any turns all i know is that i have not seen a father shooting his own sons just because they misbehaved .. Leader of nation is the father of nation sorry to say that since quaid-e-azam the state of Pakistan hasn't seen a single leader whose personality vision and charisma every came close to the direction of it's founder. "SAB SEY PAHLEY PAKISTAN" cannot be implemented if you kill Pakistanis as par the direction of MR Geroge Bush .. you need to make them feel you ought to make them feel you got to make them feel yes these Pakistanis those fellow citizens that you look down upon i mean who are you working for who do you represent do you represent The crescent and star on green and white flag or the stars on red white and blue.... Once a lord visited The north South east and west of India and said he couldn't find a single beggar he said" these people are too proud of their culture their tradition their belief in their tradition don't let them bow down, take them away from their culture their tradition make them feel that their culture and tradition is nothing make them "CONFUSED" .... That's exactly what Mr Musharaf has done he put forth many slogans thus confusing the nation.... first of all the nation was told that the ideology of Pakistan was not this but The great leader Muhammad Ali jinnah wanted not a muslim but a secular Pakistan... hmmm so how about separating from secular India to make a secular Pakistan funny is'nt it and how about ruling from Burma to the shores of Arabian sea... why would Quaid give such an opportunity if he was looking for a secular state....utterly lost is the term i can say to describe the mindset of such brown viceroy .....and what about ISI it's not about fighting a war against the weak "so called terrorism " is the war of the weak, what good you get to fight a war against weak... funny world isn't it you drop nuclear bombs are you deserve to be the champion of free world and you explode fire crackers and you are known as "terrorist" since when we lost our focus what about our own plans what about ISI holding 162 desks " Pardon to all fans of ISI... Shouldn't ISI be operating in other countries then to just operate in their own land ... statistically speaking what is the percentage of ISI operations in and out of country i can bet more then 75% current operations during the past 8 years have been within Pakistan...Problem with our system is that one person can hijack the whole process.. all policies all visionary plans all budgets are hijacked just to secure the government of that person a leader of nation doesn't need to vacate half of the mosque just to pray among it's own people.... a leader of nation doesn't need foreign help or dictation to secure his own rule ... for heaven's sake what kind of warriors are you or are you really warriors and not wearing the mask of lion cause true warriors cant betray a lion cannot betray a herd of lions ... where is "VISION Pakistan" people personal life of a leader doesn't matter then why do they bring charges against Bil CLinton who turned recessions forecasts to an economical boom to a nation where infidelity is 90% common. Characterless is what its all about a person who cannot control self desires cannot be brave in true sense he/she will bow to urges and impulsiveness will take over others will use his/her weakness against him/her... his/her time will not be used effectively to serve his/ her people.... to you the Guardian Angels of this Great nation... to you the sons of Tipu...Do you see Tipu Sultan when you try to see yourself or it is some Micheal or John you want to become .. A real commando is one who has control his/her nafs....Grabbing the neck of the weak with a a arm well built is not about bravery..... I see no "Vision Pakistan" ..... You know many PAkistanis very moment they land in States they start to look down on their own brothers/sisters....I have a question for them was your father George Washington or Abraham Lincoln cause they were the ones responsible for the development and implementation of systems for a nation who were worse the northern Alliance...or Querish before Prophet (peace be upon him) ... irony is the still are the same as no leader in States focused on moral or character building but it is the beauty of their system that has kept the most barbarous people work with honesty and sincerity towards their land..i agree that politicians are no good but can't you see that common patriotic people cannot enter politics due to the presence of land lords and mafias... but how about you guys supporting the most corrupt of corrupt how you are helping Pakistan that way... is it about plots lands in commerical area defence phase ! phase 2 is that what you wanna take with you to your grave all you guys talk about in offices is my one canal plot who got what is that vision pakistan .... Did anyone during last 9 years ever tried to bring a group of young educated patriotic pakistanis to political scene .... no no one did cause people like Musahraf need dogs to wag their tails.... honest and competent people don't butter you up don't say yes sir to your wrong decisions ... how about involving the young the educated for the vision pakistan ... or its just that you guys have the big giant head and God have given you aqel Qul.. and normal people like us who study all their lives are thought to be as brainless... well then as warriors show me one single piece of land that you have conquered.... i think you have lost more then what founder of this State was able to get for you ... He was a civilian ... sorry i am really sorry but thats your attitude you guys don't think of us as Pakistanis on equal level maybe thats why the nation where everyone takes part in nation building where everyone is involved in the future planning is on top .... I have the heart of a warrior i want to serve my nation but i can't find anyway thanks to you guys yes you guys there is no team work you think only you guys have the brilliant mind to protect and serve this nation...then you should have protected in the absence of atomic bomb built and developed by civilians back when our enemy was able to put all it's forces on our borders. ...All i want to say is i am deeply hurt there is no team work there is no vision Pakistan this country is being lead by most incompetent leaders who hijack every agency every department just for their selfish monstrous desires...ISI was suppose to be my ideal my heroes all they doing now is serving such leaders waging their tales inland to please the desires of one rulers ... Okay if you want to work in Pakistan why not work on unite and conquer supporting right educated youth to enter politics or any nation building activities... i find it strange that a nation with 1000 kilometer coast gawadar was developed just because China wanted to see it developed i mean we dont know how to utilize our own land for our own good (strategically speaking all this time we had one sea port just 150 km from Indian border) aaaahhhhh maybe i live ina different word and you guys live in a different world your world is of plots commerical lands defence housing scehmes machoism towards your own people bravery is about being humble i don't see many humble people among these braves.. bravery s about protecting the weak .. i don't see that ...bravery is about looking in the eyes of tiger and not blinking ...........