Nawaz spent Rs60m on medical treatment from national exchequer, NA told

[django]

lol ok, all are three sisters ?

One could certainly be forgiven for thinking such.Kudos Haider bhai

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

The thing is he was claiming is money is halal but he never used it even for his own treatment...His multimillionaire children wont even spend a penny on their parent's treatment and they shamelessly live off Pakistani tax and borrowed money!


So now it doesnt matter if he uses his haram looted money (meaning you agree it is haram and looted, yet you burn when presented with facts of his character?) Man when will you people stop defending a convicted felon?! Lying through his teeth about spending his own money and about not looting....and then being a billionaire and still not spending a dime on himself and preferring to FURTHER loot Pakistan?



@Proudpakistaniguy You cant be for Pakistan and proud of it when this is the low your leader is and you defending it?! Defending the looting of Pakistan isnt something to be proud off!

All PM’s expenses borne by family itself: Maryam

May 29, 2016

Samaa Digital

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2016/05/all-pms-expenses-borne-by-family-itself-maryam/

https://twitter.com/x/status/736598348690534400

https://twitter.com/x/status/736601134253670400

If ever she desires to be in parliament: Article 62/63 should be the first to kick this pathological liar as well!


Well, he went to a hospital in Pakistan while in jail here (proved he could go to a Pakistani hospital but chose not to)...It didnt kill him so I assume he gets a kick out of misusing public money coz there seems no other explanation to use 60m Rs of a poor country for something that can be checked at the local hospital!

I don't understand why you felt the need to write this long essay which is not even relevant to my posts. You were talking about morality and I said such morality and equality between rich and poor don't exist in any part of world. I don't feel the need to prove my patriotism to you or anyone else . I don't follow any political leader or party to expose corruption of my political opponents while glorify my own party or leadership to make them look like saints. All political parties have corrupt goons in them but depend whom judiciary and NAB pick for accountability and investigation. Make JIT to investigate assets of Jhagir tareen who was disqualified for being dishonest then result would not be any different to Nawaz. Look what happened to Azam Swati when he got picked ? Result would be the same if they start picking Haleema khan, Aleem Khan, Jhangir tareen and Zulfi bukhari in same way as they are picking politicians from oppositions.

Nab should not be a political vendetta tool in the hands of ruling powerful elite just to supress their political opponent as happened in the past during Government of PML N and PPP. Real motives should have been to eliminate corruption and recovering illegal wealth rather than taking political advantage out of it. Under NAB law they can detained people on mere allegation BUT NAB use this power selectively to detain some and make them agree to a plea bargain while they don't use same procedure for Halema khan( sister of PM) and Haleem Khan/Zulfi Bukhari. There has to be across the board accountability to hold every corrupt person responsible for their acts and it include the sitting government representatives of all provinces instead of hero worshipping and buying the hyped opinions and unproven claims as facts .

Facts are established in court after due process but sadly our judiciary system is also joke where chief justice publicly demanded from a estate tycoon to donate 1 trillion for his cause of dam fund then he would let him go with all his wrong doings but if he did not donated then his case will be heard on merits . Brilliant idea to legalise corruption in the name of good cause . Our judges gave verdict as per wishes of military dictators in the past that's why people have no trust in Judiciary and anti corrupt institution who are corrupt in themselves

 

[Dubious]

I don't understand why you felt the need to write this long essay which is not even relevant to my posts.

it also had pictures for easy understanding

Halema khan

not the same case considering she didnt have an office...nor direct access to the funds...

Facts are established in court after due process but sadly our judiciary system is also joke where chief justice publicly demanded from a estate tycoon to donate 1 trillion for his cause of dam fund then he would let him go with all his wrong doings but if he did not donated then his case will be heard on merits . Brilliant idea to legalise corruption in the name of good cause . Our judges gave verdict as per wishes of military dictators in the past that's why people no trust in Judiciary

I agree judiciary has tons of problems! However sadly it is the only system through which justice would be given in Pakistan

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

it also had pictures for easy understanding


not the same case considering she didnt have an office...nor direct access to the funds...


I agree judiciary has tons of problems! However sadly it is the only system through which justice would be given in Pakistan

Not having public office don't mean you can get away with wrong doings . Everybody can do corruption within his/her capacity .. I said that if NAB can arrest people mere on allegation then why don't arresting Zulfi Bukhari and aleem khan the way they did arrested shabaaz.

 

[Dubious]

Not having public office don't mean you can get away with wrong doings .

Never said that but even in a previous thread I mentioned that her case is not political! Right now political cases are top priority!

Her case comes under embezzlement and any tom dick and harry should take their proof to court and get her in trouble!

I said that if NAB can arrest people mere on allegation then why don't arresting Zulfi Bukhari and Haleem khan the way the did arrested shabaaz.

I am not a NAB worker...I have no clue...

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Never said that but even in a previous thread I mentioned that her case is not political! Right now political cases are top priority!

Her case comes under embezzlement and any tom dick and harry should take their proof to court and get her in trouble!


I am not a NAB worker...I have no clue...

It seem priority is just political cases of opposition? lol Good guys are those who moved from PML(N) and PPP into PTI. Wo bach ghey .. Dubious give all these Judiciary, police, NAB and accountability institution under my control and then I would easily bring down and disqualified every single politician out there whom I don't like. You will not find a single honest politicians who actually gave taxes as per his actual incomes or earned all his assets legally and disclosed them properly and maintained book keeping . There was no real motive to eliminate corruption from Pakistan .Corruption was just used as threat and bargaining tool to either take political advantage out of it or settling matters..

 

[Dubious]

It seem priority is just political cases of opposition?

Well priority is money actually...coz it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone...
Stability to Pakistan as well as expose the long awaited headache of a family drama!

Dubious give all these Judiciary, police, NAB and accountability institution under my control and then I would easily bring down and disqualified every single politician out there whom I don't like.

Then how are you different from those you are speaking out against? Plus I dont have the power to give you anything save that related to moderation on this forum

You will not find a single honest politicians who actually gave taxes as per his actual incomes or earned all his assets legally and disclosed them properly and maintained book keeping . There was no real motive to eliminate corruption from Pakistan .Corruption was just used as threat and bargaining tool to either take political advantage out of it or settling matters..

Well who allowed PMLN to be in such a position then?

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Well priority is money actually...coz it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone...

and I will be happy if they recover any illegal wealth of any corrupt individual and bring it back to Pakistan but it seem distant dream now which don't know when will become reality

Then how are you different from those you are speaking out against? Plus I dont have the power to give you anything save that related to moderation on this forum


Well who allowed PMLN to be in such a position then?

Well I have no sympathy for Nawaz or butto family because they have not done any Judicial/NAB reforms to make them fair and independent and they have been using these institutions for political advantage against each others and now they are facing their fate in the hand of same institution and probably next government( if its not PTI again) will also be digging corruption cases of PTI government to damage their reputation/vote bank while avoiding introspection within their own government so we will send one Nawaz in jail then another Nawaz will be ready to take his place ​

 

[Dubious]

and I will be happy if they recover any illegal wealth of any corrupt individual and bring it back to Pakistan but it seem distant dream now which don't know when will become reality

Better trying and failing then just sitting and doing nothing, right?

Well I have no sympathy for Nawaz or butto family because they have not done any Judicial/NAB reforms to make them fair and independent and they have been using these institutions for political advantage against each others and now they are facing their fate in the hand of same institution and probably next government( if its not PTI again) will also be digging corruption cases of PTI government to damage their reputation/vote bank while avoiding introspection within their own government so we will send one Nawaz in jail then another Nawaz will be ready to take his place

I hope not! Hope is all we can do for now...Since we put that hope in 2 families for decades...time to hope ALLAH gives us the best

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Better trying and failing then just sitting and doing nothing, right?

Yes but intention matter most. Intention should be to serve Pakistan and Pakistani people irrespective of whther it bring political advantage or disadvantage to party or vote bank ..war should be against corruption and brining looted wealth of individuals no matter which party they belong or even if they are senior member of your own party....to find such courageous and fair leader who don't compromise on his principles is rare to find and probably doxt exist

 

[Imad.Khan]

He was ur PM. Good , Bad or Ugly he was still the PM. Next what money spent on his food bill b/w 2013-17 ?

We made a mistake, now can you please stop reminding us about it.

 

[Dubious]

Yes but intention matter most. Intention should be to serve Pakistan and Pakistani people irrespective of whther it bring political advantage or disadvantage to party or vote bank ..war should be against corruption and brining looted wealth of individuals no matter which party they belong or even if they are senior member of your own party....to find such courageous and fair leader who don't compromise on his principles is rare to find and probably doxt exist

You arent god...Allah said ONLY HE knows the intentions so you guessing someone's intention doesnt have a stand!

How is it catching corrupts even if they happen to be part of only 1 party NOT serving Pakistan? It still is serving Pakistan in some way!

I do agree that ideally speaking it shouldnt target one party (which happens to have a lot to answer for over the deacades) but should be blanket for everyone....We are hopefully this start from 1 party would stretch to everyone!

 

[EpiiC]

he should do it on his own money and he wasnt there for any sort of complicated surgery .

True but if he is legally allowed to spend government money on his own medical visits/treatment then its okay... If not then I see your point.

 

[VCheng]

True but if he is legally allowed to spend government money on his own medical visits/treatment then its okay... If not then I see your point.

The relevant policy and rules have been posted above already. Apparently, there is no violation here, merely selective outrage. What's more, the same policy is still in force, again apparently.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You arent god...Allah said ONLY HE knows the intentions so you guessing someone's intention doesnt have a stand!

How is it catching corrupts even if they happen to be part of only 1 party NOT serving Pakistan? It still is serving Pakistan in some way!

I do agree that ideally speaking it shouldnt target one party (which happens to have a lot to answer for over the deacades) but should be blanket for everyone....We are hopefully this start from 1 party would stretch to everyone!

When i said i know the intentions of others? I only said intentions matter most. If leader of ruling party is going after his political opponents as well as corrupt of his own party because he want to eliminate corruption and have good intentions to serve Pakistan and Pakistani people then this will bring positive outcome and if he is just targeting his political opponents for political interests so that no one is left there to compete with him or his party then this will not eliminate corruption because intentions is all about serving your interests. We will see in few years. I wish PTI and Imran put all senior leadership of PML N and PPP in jail and then they will have no one to blame for their own failure in next 4/5 years because right now we are told that Pakistan is in mess because of all these few individuals and if they don't exist in political scene then Pakistan will become Medina like welfare riysat