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Nawaz Sharif approves lifting of ban on underage marriage

So you really think that mahabharta was a story???
I hope you have read about the radiation level found in skulls of harappan culture(if I am not wrong)???
And that the war was fought in kurukshetra???
Now look at it more practically.Those men were living in a jungle and no king or any respectable family would have married their daughters to them. So they really would not have got any women.

Arjuna knew that his mother was right.

The Mahabharata is an exaggeration for the most part. The authors likely took inspiration about people and places from existing surroundings, but embellished them with lots of divinities, mythical narratives and mystical characters.:)

Radioactive substances occur in nature at many places. The people in question might have ingested some radioactive substances in their lifetime. You know that sands in Kerala have thorium at elevated levels, right? (Moreover, it's not proven that any radioactive weaponry was used in the Mahabharata either.)

hmm....
no poor brahmins were never married easily in the entire history......
no one care for poor.....why would a father gaive his daughters hand i to a poor who can't even feed her with two meals......
second..they don't want to be figured out so, no extra burden on the way....+ draupdi was the daughter of the drupad a powerful king..which will help them at the time of war ..so, alliance....

I'm not questioning Arjuna's right to marry Draupadi. Just stating that the reasons provided for her being married to the rest aren't logically sound. This might have been due to some cultural mores of a bygone age too.

And actually, Brahmins in olden ages are depicted by default as poor materialistically. But Brahmin girls would be married off to Brahmin boys, no matter what.
 
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The Mahabharata is an exaggeration for the most part. The authors likely took inspiration about people and places from existing surroundings, but embellished them with lots of divinities, mythical narratives and mystical characters
epics are always exaggerations....but nothing has been proven other wise too......

Radioactive substances occur in nature at many places. The people in question might have ingested some radioactive substances in their lifetime. You know that sands in Kerala have thorium at elevated levels, right? (Moreover, it's not proven that any radioactive weaponry was used in the Mahabharata either.)
yes ..radio active substance occur at many places in nature.....
but when nuke goes off there is a slight difference...

Ancient Weapons of Mass Destruction & The Mahabharata — World Mysteries Blog
 
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The Mahabharata is an exaggeration for the most part. The authors likely took inspiration about people and places from existing surroundings, but embellished them with lots of divinities, mythical narratives and mystical characters.:)

Radioactive substances occur in nature at many places. The people in question might have ingested some radioactive substances in their lifetime. You know that sands in Kerala have thorium at elevated levels, right? (Moreover, it's not proven that any radioactive weaponry was used in the Mahabharata either.)
Nope Indeee,the level of radiation found in those skulls was more than what was found in hiroshima.
And I do believe they used radioactive weapons.
The Europeans who trash these stories regularly love to do deep researches on these stories and come up with new scientific findings and discoveries.
 
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So what does the science say on "the age" for marriage??? Give us the "details"?

Maturity - the first and foremost important attribute for a marriage - comes with age , there's no disputing that fact . Marriage isn't child's play , which well is now in Islamic Republic of Pakistan . What are you trying to prove by disputing the importance of aging with response to physical and psychological development in humans is beyond me .

We just have gone full retard , boys and girls ! Let there not be a shadow of doubt . @Developereo Apparently the people's mind shut off , as soon they see the word " ISLAM " , the opiate of the masses , didn't a person once say ?

@Armstrong @blain2 @Aeronaut @jaibi @Oscar @Talon Where are we heading ?
 
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Few places in India child marriages happen, but law is very strict if they come to know. How is it in Pakistan? If these kind of marriages happen anyway, I think it's just for appeasing the religious ones. Nawaz is an experienced person to know when to use carrots or stick.
 
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I'm not questioning Arjuna's right to marry Draupadi. Just stating that the reasons provided for her being married to the rest aren't logically sound. This might have been due to some cultural mores of a bygone age too.
hmm....
you know men have desire ....so they had to have a woman....
they cannot have extra woman for each because they were to hide their identity.... + resource issue....big family means you need food, home, etc.....if a child is born then extra burden.....so, having 1 woman keep that possibility limited too.....


And actually, Brahmins in olden ages are depicted by default as poor materialistically. But Brahmin girls would be married off to Brahmin boys, no matter what.
yes brahims girl would marry brahmins boy ..only when they had sufficient wealth and land to feed a family...not otherwise....
 
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I had to quote. our constitution clearly suggest that every law will be according to Islam,
Fine,you had to quote me.

RAMPAGE said:
It doesn't concern our neighbors in any way.
But then I regularly find Pakistanis commenting on Indian political and social issues.
There's a reason why I posted this thread in member's club.
And this is how we usually end up fighting....that is when you get sarcastic.
 
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epics are always exaggerations....but nothing has been proven other wise too......


yes ..radio active substance occur at many places in nature.....
but when nuke goes off there is a slight difference...

Ancient Weapons of Mass Destruction & The Mahabharata — World Mysteries Blog

Bhai, do you know that those skeletons in question have actually been lost? Today's scientists haven't been able to get a glimpse of those skeltons, which could otherwise have helped them in either extracting any remaining DNA or develop a facial reconstruction of IVC people.

Also, the guys who quote the Mahabharata as evidence of nuclear war do not make direct quotations of the hymn in question, but instead make inaccurate and manipulative translations of the same. I advice you to read an abridged translation of the Mahabharata and find proof of Nuclear Wars/contamination in them.
 
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Arjuna knew that his mother was right.
did u read this.....
u were questing me.....now see that....:agree:

Of Aisha’s age at marriage
NILOFAR AHMED

IT is said that Hazrat Aisha was six years old when her nikah was performed with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Makkah, and nine years old when she moved in to live with her husband in Madina after Hijra.

This piece of misinformation has led to the wrong view that child marriage has the sanction of Islam. It must be noted that establishing the authenticity of hadiths, the narrators’ circumstances and the conditions at that time have to be correlated with historical facts. There is only one hadith by Hisham which suggests the age of Hazrat Aisha as being nine when she came to live with her husband.

Many authentic hadiths also show that Hisham’s narration is incongruous with several historical facts about the Prophet’s life, on which there is consensus. With reference to scholars such as Umar Ahmed Usmani, Hakim Niaz Ahmed and Habibur Rehman Kandhulvi, I would like to present some arguments in favour of the fact that Hazrat Aisha was at least 18 years old when her nikah was performed and at least 21 when she moved into the Prophet’s house to live with him.

According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal standing, she cannot be a minor.

Hisham bin Urwah is the main narrator of this hadith. His life is divided into two periods: in 131A.H. the Madani period ended, and the Iraqi period started, when Hisham was 71 years old. Hafiz Zehbi has spoken about Hisham’s loss of memory in his later period. His students in Madina, Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifah, do not mention this hadith. Imam Malik and the people of Madina criticised him for his Iraqi hadiths.

All the narrators of this hadith are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine. Maulana Usmani thinks this change was purposely and maliciously made later.
Historian Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah has given a list of the people who accepted Islam in the first year of the proclamation of Islam, in which Hazrat Aisha’s name is mentioned as Abu Bakr’s “little daughter Aisha”. If we accept Hisham’s calculations, she was not even born at that time.

Some time after the death of the Prophet’s first wife, Hazrat Khadija, Khawla suggested to the Prophet that he get married again, to a bikrun, referring to Hazrat Aisha (Musnad Ahmed). In Arabic bikrun is used for an unmarried girl who has crossed the age of puberty and is of marriageable age. The word cannot be used for a six-year-old girl.

Some scholars think that Hazrat Aisha was married off so early because in Arabia girls mature at an early age. But this was not a common custom of the Arabs at that time. According to Allama Kandhulvi, there is no such case on record either before or after Islam. Neither has this ever been promoted as a Sunnah of the Prophet. The Prophet married off his daughters Fatima at 21 and Ruquiyya at 23. Besides, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, married off his eldest daughter Asma at the age of 26.

Hazrat Aisha narrates that she was present on the battlefield at the Battle of Badar (Muslim). This leads one to conclude that Hazrat Aisha moved into the Prophet’s house in 1 A.H. But a nine-year-old could not have been taken on a rough and risky military mission.

In 2 A.H, the Prophet refused to take boys of less than 15 years of age to the battle of Uhud. Would he have allowed a 10-year-old girl to accompany him? But Anas reported that he saw Aisha and Umme Sulaim carrying goatskins full of water and serving it to the soldiers (Bukhari). Umme Sulaim and Umme Ammara, the other women present at Uhud, were both strong, mature women whose duties were the lifting of the dead and injured, treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, supplying ammunition and even taking up the sword.

Hazrat Aisha used the kunniat, the title derived from the name of a child, of Umme Abdullah after her nephew and adopted son. If she was six when her nikah was performed, she would have been only eight years his senior, hardly making him eligible for adoption. Also, a little girl could not have given up on ever having her own child and used an adopted child’s name for her kunniat.

Hazrat Aisha’s nephew Urwah once remarked that he was not surprised about her amazing knowledge of Islamic law, poetry and history because she was the wife of the Prophet and the daughter of Abu Bakr. If she was eight when her father migrated, when did she learn poetry and history from him?

There is consensus that Hazrat Aisha was 10 years younger than her elder sister Asma, whose age at the time of the hijrah, or migration to Madina, was about 28. It can be concluded that Hazrat Aisha was about 18 years old at migration. On her moving to the Prophet’s house, she was a young woman at 21. Hisham is the single narrator of the hadith whose authenticity is challenged, for it does not correlate with the many historical facts of the time.

The writer is a scholar of the Quran and writes on contemporary issues. nilofar.ahmed58@gmail.com
 
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hmm....
you know men have desire ....so they had to have a woman....
they cannot have extra woman for each because they were to hide their identity.... + resource issue....big family means you need food, home, etc.....if a child is born then extra burden.....so, having 1 woman keep that possibility limited too.....



yes brahims girl would marry brahmins boy ..only when they had sufficient wealth and land to feed a family...not otherwise....

You are giving your own reasons now. But keep in mind that these weren't the reasons cited by the Pandavas for marrying Draupadi. They didn't say we're poor and cannot find a girl nor afford to care for her. That wasn't their reasoning, but your justification of their actions which otherwise lack a good reason.:)
 
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Fine,you had to quote me.


But then I regularly find Pakistanis commenting on Indian political and social issues.
There's a reason why I posted this thread in member's club.
And this is how we usually end up fighting....that is when you get sarcastic.
I was disappointed. you were clearly trying to troll. didn't expect that from you :lol:
 
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Are these idiots trying to sound fair and balanced by saying that marriage can happen at any age but consummation should happen after puberty?

Are these jahils going to check the beds of men every night to guarantee that?

They will eventually have to back track and provide a concrete age limit for marriage -it's like they need to go through evolution all over again.
 
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Nope Indeee,the level of radiation found in those skulls was more than what was found in hiroshima.
And I do believe they used radioactive weapons.
The Europeans who trash these stories regularly love to do deep researches on these stories and come up with new scientific findings and discoveries.

Can you find out where those skulls are at present?:) They were reportedly lost long ago. And the fact that they were radioactive hasn't bee corroborated by independent/multiple sources yet.
 
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