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yes bajwa seem less patriot than emotional ptians on pdf haha
Nawaz Sarif walking on Treason Lines
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Is my dart close to reality or am I off a bit ?
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Now indian media has became credible for us who are known to spread lies and sensationalism . i was actually asking any video link of nawaz s statemnet to know what are those treason lines where he walking on them freely while our army is sleeping and let this happening
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Mein aap ke liye wohi search kar raha hoon lekin ye sirf Indian media hi nahi balke aur bhi kayi International media houses mein yehi baat ki gayi hai.
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aur media ne be apni apni side li howey ha..ajjkal stories aur statemnet ko itna twist kia ja rha ha election compiagn se pehel k samuj nhi a rha sach kia ha yea jhoot kia ha ..ilzaam kai ha aur fact kia hai..itne aghey chali ghi ha public be nafrut main aur muhabbat main apne leaderoon ki k kuch be yaqeen kar lete hainbagir tasdeeq kiya
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DawnLeaks 2.0: Nawaz returns fire, draws ire
10 HOURS AGO BY NEWS DESK
–Deposed PM tells local paper militant outfits still active in Pakistan, asks why trials of 2008 Mumbai attack accused haven’t been completed till now
–Indian media says Sharif’s statement vindicates India’s stance of Pakistan’s complicity in deadly attack
–Imran Khan says Sharif has ‘started a war with the army’
Deposed prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s controversial remark – linking the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks to Pakistan – is being seen here as an attempt to put international pressure on the country’s military establishment, as the corruption trials against him and his family members enter a decisive phase.
The scathing comments also come on the heels of a recent announcement by the country’s anti-graft watchdog that it had initiated an investigation against the former PM into alleged laundering of $4.9 billion to India, citing a World Bank report. The World Bank was quick to reject the NAB claim, saying the allegations referred in the press statement were ‘incorrect’. Sharif had consequently sought an apology from NAB and demanded the resignation of its chairman, Justice (r) Javed Iqbal if the anti-graft body fails to prove money laundering allegations against him.
In an exclusive interview to English daily Dawn’s Cyril Almeida that appeared on Saturday, Sharif was asked about the reasons for his ouster. However, instead of replying to the actual query, the ruling party’s ‘supreme leader’ steered the conversation towards national security and foreign policy.
“Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” alluding to the 2008 Mumbai attacks-related trials which have stalled in a Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.
“It’s absolutely unacceptable. This is exactly what we are struggling for. President Putin has said it. President Xi has said it,” Sharif was quoted as saying.
Referring to the trial of former military dictator retired General Pervez Musharraf, he said, “The Constitution has to be supreme. There is no other way. Look, we put a dictator on trial; it had never been done before.”
The Indian media picked up Nawaz’s statement and headlined it as “Pakistan’s confession of ‘playing a role in 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks’”.
Several publications in India as well as the current affairs shows across the border gave extraordinary coverage to the statement. Headlines like ‘Nawaz Sharif questions Pakistan’s policy to allow ‘non-state actors’ to cross border and kill people’ that referred to 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks were shared on the Indian media.
Headlines of some Indian publications on May 12, 2018
‘NAWAZ HAS WAGED WAR AGAINST ARMY’:
Condemning Sharif’s remarks, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan claimed that “Nawaz Sharif has started a war against the army”.
Addressing a public rally in Karachi, Khan lashed out at the PML-N supremo for giving “anti-Pakistan statement to please foreign forces including India”.
The PTI chairman also alleged that Nawaz tried to save his corruption by targeting the apex court, joint investigation team for Panama Leaks case and army.
Meanwhile, PTI’s former secretary general Jahangir Tareen said, “Nawaz Sharif has today showed all Pakistan that his real loyalty is with the Anti Pakistan part of the Int’l establishment. Today he spoke like an enemy of Pakistan. Shame on you NS shame on you.”
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Nawaz Sharif has today showed all Pakistan that his real loyalty is with the Anti Pakistan part of the Int’l establishment. Today he spoke like an enemy of Pakistan . Shame on you NS shame on you
23:25 - 12 May 2018
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Columnist Mehr Tarar too criticised the PML-N supremo asserting, “Nawaz Sharif will say anything to malign the establishment and to do that Nawaz Sharif doesn’t even care about the integrity of the country that he lorded over thrice as the prime minister. His reckless statements to prop up his vengeance mantra are absolutely unacceptable.”
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Nawaz Sharif will say anything to malign the establishment, and to do that Nawaz Sharif doesn't even care about the integrity of the country that he lorded over thrice as the prime minister.
His reckless statements to prop up his vengeance mantra are absolutely unacceptable.
21:12 - 12 May 2018
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There was no comment from the Pakistani military’s public relations wing till the filing of this report.
LITTLE SUPPORT:
Although ex-PM’s daughter Maryam Nawaz did not say anything about the statement herself, she retweeted a 2016 story titled ‘Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani’.
Maryam Nawaz retweets a 2016 story regarding the Mumbai attack
Social media analyst Omar Qureshi defended Nawaz by saying, “The same people who are calling Nawaz Sharif a traitor today would clap and applaud Gen Musharraf when as president he said that Pakistan used to send proxies to fight in Indian Kashmir.”
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The same people who are calling Nawaz Sharif a traitor today would clap and applaud Gen Musharraf when as president he said that Pakistan used to send proxies to fight in Indian Kashmir
23:29 - 12 May 2018
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News reporter Murtaza Ali Shah wrote on Twitter, “Nawaz Sharif didn’t utter a word against Army in his interview but Imran Khan says NS trying to defame Pakistan Army to please foreign forces. This is like dragging a national institution into politics and doing politics over its name. Dangerous precedent.”
In 2016, the same publication’s report ‘Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military‘ had given birth to the Dawn Leaks scandal, a much-hyped controversy that resulted in the resignation of Pervaiz Rashid, then information minister.
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For Nawaz, it’s not over till it’s over
Cyril AlmeidaUpdated May 12, 2018
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UNFAZED by ongoing defections from his PML-N, Nawaz Sharif insists the defectors didn’t leave the party, rather they were taken away.—Reuters
LAMBASTING the ongoing accountability process against himself and his family, former prime minister and PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif has said: “You can’t run a country if you have two or three parallel governments. This has to stop. There can only be one government: the constitutional one.”
In a wide-ranging and exclusive interview with Dawn ahead of his rally in Multan on Friday, a relaxed but adamant Sharif dismissed the recent defections from the PML-N, particularly in southern Punjab. “They didn’t leave the party, they were taken away. Who took them away?” Mr Sharif asked.
“If there really was a mahaz (front), then why did it last only two days? Who forced them to immediately join PTI?” Mr Sharif continued.
The rally in Multan was his first visit to southern Punjab’s largest city since his ouster in last July and the former prime minister was keen to steer the interview back to his politics of grievance rather than discuss regional political dynamics.
Also read: From disgrace to supreme leader
He denied that the Jhelum rally earlier in the week signalled a possible slowdown in momentum or weakening of public support for him. “Perhaps it was a smaller ground, but it was packed to capacity,” said Mr Sharif. “It is a very popular slogan,” he said of ‘mujhe kyun nikala?’ and, added with evident satisfaction, “There is a lot of appreciation, a lot of recognition for it.”
Ex-PM denies a third ouster from the premiership represents a failed approach on his part, suggests he won’t do anything differently if returned to public office
The PML-N supreme leader also deflected questions about who will lead the party in the upcoming general elections campaign and whether his brother, Shahbaz Sharif, will be the prime ministerial candidate. Instead, he offered: “There is a lot of appreciation for Shahbaz Sharif. Look around this city and see how it’s totally transformed.”
The ex-premier was more animated and expansive while discussing his own record in office from 2013 to 2017, citing familiar road and electricity projects and higher economic growth. He repeatedly rejected criticism that his government failed to implement structural reforms, whether political, legal or economic, but finally said: “When there’s destabilisation from the first year, who can do reforms?” — a reference to the joint dharna of PTI and Tahirul Qadri in 2014.
Asked what he believes is the reason for his ouster from public office, Mr Sharif did not reply directly but steered the conversation towards foreign policy and national security. “We have isolated ourselves. Despite giving sacrifices, our narrative is not being accepted. Afghanistan’s narrative is being accepted, but ours is not. We must look into it.”
He continued: “Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” — a reference to the Mumbai attacks-related trials which have stalled in a Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.
“It’s absolutely unacceptable. This is exactly what we are struggling for. President Putin has said it. President Xi has said it,” Mr Sharif said. “We could have already been at seven per cent growth (in GDP), but we are not.”
He denied that a third ouster from the premiership represented a failed approach on his part and suggested he had no regrets nor would he have to do anything differently if he returned to public office. “The Constitution has to be supreme. There is no other way. Look, we put a dictator on trial; it had never been done before,” referring to retired Gen Pervez Musharraf.
Mr Sharif also rejected speculation that he would consider a deal if offered to him, another stint in exile for avoiding a jail sentence, for example. “Why would I do it now after 66 appearances (before a NAB court)? We don’t even get an exemption,” to visit his wife, Kulsum Nawaz, who is undergoing cancer treatment in the UK. “It’s not easy to stay away.”
“Look, we have no other choice,” Mr Sharif said before leaving to address the Multan rally. “These games have gone on too long. Something has to change.”
But Mr Sharif’s sangfroid and confidence is not shared by others, including many in his party. After the completion of parliament’s term at the end of May, defections from the PML-N could accelerate, leaving him with a powerful electoral slogan, sympathetic voters, but few winning candidates and, ultimately, few seats in the next parliament.
Published in Dawn, May 12th, 2018
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DawnLeaks 2.0: Nawaz returns fire, draws ire
10 HOURS AGO BY NEWS DESK
–Deposed PM tells local paper militant outfits still active in Pakistan, asks why trials of 2008 Mumbai attack accused haven’t been completed till now
–Indian media says Sharif’s statement vindicates India’s stance of Pakistan’s complicity in deadly attack
–Imran Khan says Sharif has ‘started a war with the army’
Deposed prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s controversial remark – linking the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks to Pakistan – is being seen here as an attempt to put international pressure on the country’s military establishment, as the corruption trials against him and his family members enter a decisive phase.
The scathing comments also come on the heels of a recent announcement by the country’s anti-graft watchdog that it had initiated an investigation against the former PM into alleged laundering of $4.9 billion to India, citing a World Bank report. The World Bank was quick to reject the NAB claim, saying the allegations referred in the press statement were ‘incorrect’. Sharif had consequently sought an apology from NAB and demanded the resignation of its chairman, Justice (r) Javed Iqbal if the anti-graft body fails to prove money laundering allegations against him.
In an exclusive interview to English daily Dawn’s Cyril Almeida that appeared on Saturday, Sharif was asked about the reasons for his ouster. However, instead of replying to the actual query, the ruling party’s ‘supreme leader’ steered the conversation towards national security and foreign policy.
“Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” alluding to the 2008 Mumbai attacks-related trials which have stalled in a Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.
“It’s absolutely unacceptable. This is exactly what we are struggling for. President Putin has said it. President Xi has said it,” Sharif was quoted as saying.
Referring to the trial of former military dictator retired General Pervez Musharraf, he said, “The Constitution has to be supreme. There is no other way. Look, we put a dictator on trial; it had never been done before.”
The Indian media picked up Nawaz’s statement and headlined it as “Pakistan’s confession of ‘playing a role in 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks’”.
Several publications in India as well as the current affairs shows across the border gave extraordinary coverage to the statement. Headlines like ‘Nawaz Sharif questions Pakistan’s policy to allow ‘non-state actors’ to cross border and kill people’ that referred to 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks were shared on the Indian media.
Headlines of some Indian publications on May 12, 2018
‘NAWAZ HAS WAGED WAR AGAINST ARMY’:
Condemning Sharif’s remarks, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan claimed that “Nawaz Sharif has started a war against the army”.
Addressing a public rally in Karachi, Khan lashed out at the PML-N supremo for giving “anti-Pakistan statement to please foreign forces including India”.
The PTI chairman also alleged that Nawaz tried to save his corruption by targeting the apex court, joint investigation team for Panama Leaks case and army.
Meanwhile, PTI’s former secretary general Jahangir Tareen said, “Nawaz Sharif has today showed all Pakistan that his real loyalty is with the Anti Pakistan part of the Int’l establishment. Today he spoke like an enemy of Pakistan. Shame on you NS shame on you.”
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Jahangir Khan Tareen
✔@JahangirKTareen
Nawaz Sharif has today showed all Pakistan that his real loyalty is with the Anti Pakistan part of the Int’l establishment. Today he spoke like an enemy of Pakistan . Shame on you NS shame on you
23:25 - 12 May 2018
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Columnist Mehr Tarar too criticised the PML-N supremo asserting, “Nawaz Sharif will say anything to malign the establishment and to do that Nawaz Sharif doesn’t even care about the integrity of the country that he lorded over thrice as the prime minister. His reckless statements to prop up his vengeance mantra are absolutely unacceptable.”
Mehr Tarar
✔@MehrTarar
Nawaz Sharif will say anything to malign the establishment, and to do that Nawaz Sharif doesn't even care about the integrity of the country that he lorded over thrice as the prime minister.
His reckless statements to prop up his vengeance mantra are absolutely unacceptable.
21:12 - 12 May 2018
Twitter Ads information and privacy
There was no comment from the Pakistani military’s public relations wing till the filing of this report.
LITTLE SUPPORT:
Although ex-PM’s daughter Maryam Nawaz did not say anything about the statement herself, she retweeted a 2016 story titled ‘Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani’.
Maryam Nawaz retweets a 2016 story regarding the Mumbai attack
Social media analyst Omar Qureshi defended Nawaz by saying, “The same people who are calling Nawaz Sharif a traitor today would clap and applaud Gen Musharraf when as president he said that Pakistan used to send proxies to fight in Indian Kashmir.”
omar r quraishi
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The same people who are calling Nawaz Sharif a traitor today would clap and applaud Gen Musharraf when as president he said that Pakistan used to send proxies to fight in Indian Kashmir
23:29 - 12 May 2018
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News reporter Murtaza Ali Shah wrote on Twitter, “Nawaz Sharif didn’t utter a word against Army in his interview but Imran Khan says NS trying to defame Pakistan Army to please foreign forces. This is like dragging a national institution into politics and doing politics over its name. Dangerous precedent.”
In 2016, the same publication’s report ‘Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military‘ had given birth to the Dawn Leaks scandal, a much-hyped controversy that resulted in the resignation of Pervaiz Rashid, then information minister.
You see i actually typed it n google and all i got was news sources from India lol
News reporter Murtaza Ali Shah wrote on Twitter, “Nawaz Sharif didn’t utter a word against Army in his interview but Imran Khan says NS trying to defame Pakistan Army to please foreign forces. This is like dragging a national institution into politics and doing politics over its name. Dangerous precedent.”
and you know what Indian news also said this then we should believe in them for twisting statemnet as they wish
Our people planned 26/11: ex-chief of ISI
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...nned-2611-ex-chief-of-ISI/article14311776.ece
https://tribune.com.pk/story/110040...anners-were-our-people-claims-husain-haqqani/
how this is different
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pakistan-supported-trained-terror-groups-pervez-musharraf-1237173
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Not only inaccurate, but also a statement with a potentially horrible outcome.
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Bhai mein ne jo 2 articles post kiye hain dono Pakistani media source se hain, ek Dawn ka source hai aur doosra bhi Pakistani hai. IK ne jo statement di hai aap us ko counter reply keh sakte hain. Mein janta hoon aap ko IK pasand nahi magar is ka ye matlab nahi ke aap uski har baat ko wrong kahein. NS ki is statement per us ke supporter analyst bh ius ke agau=inst bolte rahe hain, kahein to wo videos bhi share karoon?
Regarding your posted article the title is " Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani" aur HH jo soch Pakistan ke baare mein rakhta hai wo sab jante hain. ye to aise hi hai jaise aap Altaf Hussain ko trust karne lag parrein. Magar NS 3 martaba PM reh chuka hai, so us ki kahi gayi baat zeyada value rakhti hai as compared to Hussain Haqqani.
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When Musharraf had a chance, he just let him go to Saudi scott free with his 35 suitcases and a big smile on his face.
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Muje Imran pasand ha i mean he is better option than all others avilable though sometime woo be kuch zyada ki bol jata ha opposition main for political motives .muje uss k hard core suppoters pasand nhi jo bus din raat propgande main lage rehre hain aur dhondtey rehte hain stuff dosroon ko zalleel aur abuse karne k lia ..mere matlab that jab tak bayan yea speech khud na sunhoo its hard to predict the context of statemnets ..you cannot just pick one word ..why i find it hard to find a video link of his statment but there are dozen news article twisting it for political scoring
abb kia ye abe guddar ha
https://tribune.com.pk/story/110040...anners-were-our-people-claims-husain-haqqani/
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Ali tariq watch this
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Bhai ye cheez to mujhe bhi pasand nahi hai aur kuch posters aise hain jo kafi extreme level per chale jate hain(aur aisa kar ke wo part ko nuksaan hi pohancha rahe hain), ab NS ko chahiye ke agar us ki statement ko twist kar ke show kiya ja raha hai to wo is ko clearify kare kyun ke ye kafi sensitive issue hai. Ek baat to accept karni pare gi ke disqualification ke baad NS kafi khatarnak ho chuka hai, aur agar Musharaf ne bhi koi wrong statement di hai to us per article 6 ke under trial hona chahiye but the main problem is that who is going to do this, Everybody is thinking for him/her self but nobody is thinking about Pakistan's image.
Ab banda kisi ki baat per bharosa kare aur kis ko ghalt kahe, bhai mein sirf itna janta hoon ke kal news channels per her anchor NS ko hi ghalt keh raha tha bhale hi wo pro-NS ho ya anti-NS, dhuan(smoke) tabhi uthta hai jab aag ho, shayad NS ne such mein aisa kuch bola hai jis pe itna issue create hua hai.
Sorry bhai lekin ye video kafi lengthy hai,.
Yar bhai kuch to khayal karein, ye abusive post likh kar aap kya show kar rahe hain aap khud hi sochiye, anyway post report kar di hai mein ne abuses ki wajah se.
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