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Any compensation from Italy side killing innocent fishmen?
they were giving it long time back.. no idea how much
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Any compensation from Italy side killing innocent fishmen?
Koovie, That is what the Indians and the Italians disagree on, what was the location of the incident. The Indians said it was in the Indian water, the Italians said it was in international water. This has to be sorted out.
If indeed it happened in the Indian water, the marines are still not murderers. There is no indication that these two had the notion to kill the fishermen when the Italians got up that morning.
First question is why were they allowed to leave to vote. Its all seem to be part of some badly scripted bollywood movie.
No but they fired at the fishermen with full knowledge of the consequences of their actions, without trying to ascertain, weather infact these were pirates or not!!
And on top of it after giving word to the ministry of external affairs, the Italians betrayed us and the Marines are still not back!!
Because the government of Italy gave what was considered to be a solemn, written undertaking through its embassy to the supreme court of India that they would return.
Meanwhile, all the exit points, including airports across the country have been alerted to prevent Italian ambassador Daniele Mancini from leaving the country. The decision was taken by the Union home ministry a day after the Supreme Court restrained the Italian ambassador from leaving India without its permission, official sources said.
EU has refused to comment or interfere in what it feels is a bilateral matter between India and Italy - strictly "no comments" from the EU on the notice served to the Italian ambassador who has been told not to leave the country till March 19th.
And they will not be back. India will down grade relations and make some token gestures. After a while, India will need Italy again for something and the Indian government will forget about this whole episode.
I would like to know from any knowledgeable Indian member if there's provision in your law to send the foreign prisoners to their country for voting and other national/religious festivals ... Because this is the first time anything like that has happened ...
Not really , I guess most Indians can do without luxury leather shoes and expensive wine. Italian apparel stores are quite expensive for an average Indian and the clothes they have make you look quite gay to be honest . Women here have become quite fond of Gucci handpurses to show how much cash they have , but I guess they'll move to another company if they agree to sell these purses at an even higher price , so they can show off even more. Pasta can be locally made and so can Pizza.
Besides that , nothing of importance comes from Italy. Whatever Italy does , other EU countries ( germany , france etc) are much better at it. So yeah , we really don't need much from Italy.
The only thing of importance that we used to purchase from them were some defense products. For that , we have Israel ,russia , US, France , other EU companies and indigenous companies.
There is no such provision for PRISONERS. But these were undertrials, and not convicted. They were still presumed innocent, pending trial, as per the Indian norm. Undertrials have every right to take bail, unless they are deemed a flight risk. Sending undertrials to a foreign country was perhaps a first - but then we probably have never had such a situation arise before.
When they were undergoing trial, they were not even under arrest in a prison, but for most of the time, they were housed in comfy guest houses, paid for by their govt. We were giving them every leniency possible, considering they murdered two of our nationals. They were even allowed to argue against the Supreme court having jurisdiction, and if their legal team could have proved that, they wouldn't even have been tried in India anymore. Only their travel was restricted, they were leading a pretty comortable life, except for a few days they spent in prison.
The most high profile constitutional layer in the country (an ex solicitor general of India) was defending them, and there is every chance that they may have been let go, if they underwent trial (or given a token, lenient sentence), because of the question of jurisdiction.
That's when they decided to "do a bunk", assisted by no less than their ambassador himself.
Really ? Isn't it then a violation of accepted International norms ? I thought there was some money involved as bail or anything ...
Whats the story with the Italian ambassador ? I couldn't understand it , why are the airports asked not to let him go ? Surely , he cant be detained ...
I dont think she has any hand in this. I suspect that GoI wanted them free anyway, just could not do because it became big political issue in kerala.There is only one buzz word, one key word here if Indian people connect the dots;
SONIA
I dont think she has any hand in this. I suspect that GoI wanted them free anyway, just could not do because it became big political issue in kerala.
All this posturing is to save sonia though, because people will point fingers at her.
Not really , I guess most Indians can do without luxury leather shoes and expensive wine. Italian apparel stores are quite expensive for an average Indian and the clothes they have make you look quite gay to be honest . Women here have become quite fond of Gucci handpurses to show how much cash they have , but I guess they'll move to another company if they agree to sell these purses at an even higher price , so they can show off even more. Pasta can be locally made and so can Pizza.
Besides that , nothing of importance comes from Italy. Whatever Italy does , other EU countries ( germany , france etc) are much better at it. So yeah , we really don't need much from Italy.
The only thing of importance that we used to purchase from them were some defense products. For that , we have Israel ,russia , US, France , other EU companies and indigenous companies.