with due respect bro, but i dont think that is the case, as far as achievements in these 2 countries against the terrorist taliban, i think there is an un-encouraging stituation in both of the countries, taliban in NW effectively control the large areas in collaboration with Afghani Taliban and have their government, taxation, security posts etc, the area is cut off from pakistan body, there are still large areas in FATA which is under the control of taliban, Swat might be freed, but in outskirts of it ,there is still strong presence of the taliban. insecurity is high in pakistan, even ISI and army headqarters are coming under attacks in major cities like peshawar, lahore, islamamabad etc let alone the rural areas. lets pray for a better security and prosperity in pakistan and afghanistan.
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with due respect bro, but i dont think that is the case, as far as achievements in these 2 countries against the terrorist taliban, i think there is an un-encouraging stituation in both of the countries, taliban in NW effectively control the large areas in collaboration with Afghani Taliban and have their government, taxation, security posts etc, the area is cut off from pakistan body, there are still large areas in FATA which is under the control of taliban, Swat might be freed, but in outskirts of it ,there is still strong presence of the taliban. insecurity is high in pakistan, even ISI and army headqarters are coming under attacks in major cities like peshawar, lahore, islamamabad etc let alone the rural areas. lets pray for a better security and prosperity in pakistan and afghanistan.
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Well, as far as the Taliban having governors for almost all areas in Afghanistan is concerned, they do have shadow governors, even though they may not have effective control. But it suggests that there is sizeable presence.
As far as NWA is concerned, yes you are right, it is largely controlled by various factions. Not just Taliban. There is Haqqani Network, foreign militants and Afghan Taliban. PA is currently clearing Orakzai, so it is not the right time to go after NWA. But it's time will come.
As far as TTP still controlling large area is concerned, that is not the case any more. Bajaur, Mohmand, Swat, SWA are just few to mention where they used to rule but not anymore. Though, they do have presence. Settled areas like Hangu is another example.
Terror-incidents have come down if you compare to the last year. Peshawar has seen days of peace. And so have other areas. I must say that situation may not be completely under control, but is on the right track.
As far as situation in Afghanistan is concerned, you would be in a far better position to tell the ground situation.
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INCREASED OPS BEHIND SURGE IN TROOP DEATHS: NATO
KABUL, June 27, 2010 (AFP) - Intensified military operations against the Taliban are behind a surge in troop deaths in Afghanistan, NATO said Sunday, as the alliance announced the 93rd fatality in a record month for casualties.
NATO's International Security Assistance Force said three more foreign soldiers had died in Taliban attacks -- two US personnel killed in gunfights on Sunday and one from an unidentified nation in a bomb blast on Saturday.
The deaths bring to 313 the total number of soldiers to have died in Afghanistan this year. The number killed in June alone stands at 93, according to an AFP count, by far the deadliest monthly toll since the war began in late 2001.
However, an ISAF spokesman said the grim toll was a measure of success as the alliance takes the fight to the Taliban with the influx of thousands more troops into the southern provinces of Helmand and Kandahar.
"With the build-up of the additional reinforcements we have been able to confront the insurgency and Taliban in areas where they have not been challenged for years," Brigadier General Josef Blotz said.
"That's one of the reasons that we're seeing some more violence these days and weeks. And unfortunately this also leads to a higher casualty rate," he told reporters.
There are 140,000 international, mostly US, troops in Afghanistan, and their numbers are set to peak at 150,000 by August.
The deaths come as questions intensify over the war effort following last week's sacking of the top US military officer in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, over an inflammatory magazine profile.
McChrystal issued a highly critical assessment of the war just days before he was fired by President Barack Obama, a British newspaper reported Sunday.
The Independent on Sunday said leaked military documents showed McChrystal had briefed defence ministers from the countries involved in the war earlier this month and warned them to expect no progress in the next six months.
But even as political opposition in NATO countries builds against the war, ISAF's Blotz sad the tide was turning.
"It's a tough time we're in. We're in the arena, there's no way out now. We've to stay on," the spokesman said.
"We have to fight this campaign and it's actually getting a little harder," he said, adding that by the end of 2010 "you'll see progress and success because of that increased level of the security".
KABUL, June 27, 2010 (AFP) - Intensified military operations against the Taliban are behind a surge in troop deaths in Afghanistan, NATO said Sunday, as the alliance announced the 93rd fatality in a record month for casualties.
NATO's International Security Assistance Force said three more foreign soldiers had died in Taliban attacks -- two US personnel killed in gunfights on Sunday and one from an unidentified nation in a bomb blast on Saturday.
The deaths bring to 313 the total number of soldiers to have died in Afghanistan this year. The number killed in June alone stands at 93, according to an AFP count, by far the deadliest monthly toll since the war began in late 2001.
However, an ISAF spokesman said the grim toll was a measure of success as the alliance takes the fight to the Taliban with the influx of thousands more troops into the southern provinces of Helmand and Kandahar.
"With the build-up of the additional reinforcements we have been able to confront the insurgency and Taliban in areas where they have not been challenged for years," Brigadier General Josef Blotz said.
"That's one of the reasons that we're seeing some more violence these days and weeks. And unfortunately this also leads to a higher casualty rate," he told reporters.
There are 140,000 international, mostly US, troops in Afghanistan, and their numbers are set to peak at 150,000 by August.
The deaths come as questions intensify over the war effort following last week's sacking of the top US military officer in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, over an inflammatory magazine profile.
McChrystal issued a highly critical assessment of the war just days before he was fired by President Barack Obama, a British newspaper reported Sunday.
The Independent on Sunday said leaked military documents showed McChrystal had briefed defence ministers from the countries involved in the war earlier this month and warned them to expect no progress in the next six months.
But even as political opposition in NATO countries builds against the war, ISAF's Blotz sad the tide was turning.
"It's a tough time we're in. We're in the arena, there's no way out now. We've to stay on," the spokesman said.
"We have to fight this campaign and it's actually getting a little harder," he said, adding that by the end of 2010 "you'll see progress and success because of that increased level of the security".
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WASHINGTON, June 27, 2010 (AFP) - The Afghan war is tougher than anticipated, the head of the CIA admitted Sunday, insisting progress was being made despite rising Taliban attacks and the sacking of the top US commander.
"There are some serious problems here," Leon Panetta, installed last year as President Barack Obama's Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) chief, told the ABC network's "This Week" program.
"We're dealing with a tribal society. We're dealing with a country that has problems with governance, problems with corruption, problems with narcotics trafficking, problems with a Taliban insurgency.
"We are making progress. It's harder, it's slower than I think anyone anticipated."
Emboldened perhaps by divisions in the US war effort exposed by the sacking this week of Afghan commander General Stanley McChrystal, Taliban attacks are on the rise -- a fact Panetta did not attempt to hide.
"I think the Taliban obviously is engaged in greater violence right now. They're doing more on IED's (improvised explosive devices). They're going after our troops. There's no question about that."
Obama says his strategy will be unaffected by the shock departure of McChrystal, whose remarks to a magazine about top Obama administration figures betrayed the toxic ties between the commander and his civilian counterparts.
Panetta insisted Obama's surge strategy -- to put 150,000 pairs of boots on the ground by the end of August -- is the right one.
"That's a pretty significant force, combined with the Afghans," he said.
"I think the fundamental key, the key to success or failure is whether the Afghans accept responsibility, are able to deploy an effective army and police force to maintain stability.
"If they can do that, then I think we're going to be able to achieve the kind of progress and the kind of stability that the president is after."
Asked for signs of progress, Panetta pointed to Marjah -- a southern town long under the control of Taliban which 15,000 US, NATO and Afghan troops stormed in February, driving out the insurgents and local drug traffickers.
"I think that what we're seeing even in a place like Marjah, where there's been a lot of attention... agriculture, commerce is moving back to some degree of normality. The violence is down from a year ago."
There are 140,000 troops in Afghanistan, with the number set to peak at 150,000 by August in the hope of forcing an end to the insurgency by ramping up efforts in the southern province of Kandahar, the Taliban's heartland.
Panetta said the "fundamental goal" of the US mission in Afghanistan was to rid the country of Al-Qaeda.
"Winning in Afghanistan is having a country that is stable enough to ensure that there is no safe haven for Al-Qaeda or for a militant Taliban that welcomes Al-Qaeda," he said.
"That's really the measure of success for the United States. Our purpose, our whole mission there is to make sure that Al-Qaeda never finds another safe haven from which to attack this country."
"There are some serious problems here," Leon Panetta, installed last year as President Barack Obama's Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) chief, told the ABC network's "This Week" program.
"We're dealing with a tribal society. We're dealing with a country that has problems with governance, problems with corruption, problems with narcotics trafficking, problems with a Taliban insurgency.
"We are making progress. It's harder, it's slower than I think anyone anticipated."
Emboldened perhaps by divisions in the US war effort exposed by the sacking this week of Afghan commander General Stanley McChrystal, Taliban attacks are on the rise -- a fact Panetta did not attempt to hide.
"I think the Taliban obviously is engaged in greater violence right now. They're doing more on IED's (improvised explosive devices). They're going after our troops. There's no question about that."
Obama says his strategy will be unaffected by the shock departure of McChrystal, whose remarks to a magazine about top Obama administration figures betrayed the toxic ties between the commander and his civilian counterparts.
Panetta insisted Obama's surge strategy -- to put 150,000 pairs of boots on the ground by the end of August -- is the right one.
"That's a pretty significant force, combined with the Afghans," he said.
"I think the fundamental key, the key to success or failure is whether the Afghans accept responsibility, are able to deploy an effective army and police force to maintain stability.
"If they can do that, then I think we're going to be able to achieve the kind of progress and the kind of stability that the president is after."
Asked for signs of progress, Panetta pointed to Marjah -- a southern town long under the control of Taliban which 15,000 US, NATO and Afghan troops stormed in February, driving out the insurgents and local drug traffickers.
"I think that what we're seeing even in a place like Marjah, where there's been a lot of attention... agriculture, commerce is moving back to some degree of normality. The violence is down from a year ago."
There are 140,000 troops in Afghanistan, with the number set to peak at 150,000 by August in the hope of forcing an end to the insurgency by ramping up efforts in the southern province of Kandahar, the Taliban's heartland.
Panetta said the "fundamental goal" of the US mission in Afghanistan was to rid the country of Al-Qaeda.
"Winning in Afghanistan is having a country that is stable enough to ensure that there is no safe haven for Al-Qaeda or for a militant Taliban that welcomes Al-Qaeda," he said.
"That's really the measure of success for the United States. Our purpose, our whole mission there is to make sure that Al-Qaeda never finds another safe haven from which to attack this country."
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KABUL, June 28, 2010 (AFP) - The death toll for foreign soldiers in Afghanistan neared the grim milestone of 100 for June alone Monday as the CIA chief warned the anti-Taliban war would be tougher and longer than expected.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said a soldier had been killed in the southern province of Helmand on Sunday, taking the June toll as tallied by AFP to 99 -- already the worst monthly total in nearly nine years of fighting.
The British death came after four Norwegian soldiers died when their vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb in the northern province of Faryab on Sunday.
Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said Monday she would travel to Afghanistan to bring home the bodies.
"I will accompany the coffins back home," she told reporters, adding she would "travel to Afghanistan as soon as possible".
The toll for the year to date is 319 -- compared to 520 for all of 2009.
NATO says the dramatic upswing in casualty numbers in June has been caused by the alliance stepping up military operations and taking the fight to the Taliban in areas where the Islamist militia has previously been unchallenged.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said a soldier had been killed in the southern province of Helmand on Sunday, taking the June toll as tallied by AFP to 99 -- already the worst monthly total in nearly nine years of fighting.
The British death came after four Norwegian soldiers died when their vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb in the northern province of Faryab on Sunday.
Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said Monday she would travel to Afghanistan to bring home the bodies.
"I will accompany the coffins back home," she told reporters, adding she would "travel to Afghanistan as soon as possible".
The toll for the year to date is 319 -- compared to 520 for all of 2009.
NATO says the dramatic upswing in casualty numbers in June has been caused by the alliance stepping up military operations and taking the fight to the Taliban in areas where the Islamist militia has previously been unchallenged.
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Oooo.. This is indeed a dangerous weapon.. Now Americans cannot go into public place even in their armored vehicle!!!!
Only looking at this I am pretty sure actual death toll is indeed higher than is claimed by NATO.
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This is such a good news.. But sadly its not even 0.01% of deaths as compared to Afghans who loose their lives to American and NATO's atrocities. Afghans, you got to balance the equation buddies.. you got to take this number to 100 soldiers a day.. even more if possible.
For the freedom and liberation of Afghanistan.
I just don't understand why Pakistanis think that Afghan Taliban & TTP are any different from each other
Afghan Taliban is not fighting for the freedom of their country, they are fighting to bring back their self proclaimed righteous rule where every one will be subjected to the shadows of Taliban's knives & they will have total authority over the lives of the people there, These are the same people who are killing PA Soldiers, will you like the enemies of Pakistan & the people of this region to get strong & kill hundreds of the every day, its time we stop making distinctions b/w the good & bad Taliban & annihilate them completely before these people eat away our society just as they ate away the core of Afghan Society, because if these people tasted victory against these infidels then next target of their will be the people who assisted infidels n this process will continue
Collateral Damage is part of every war, there was/is & never will be a war where ordinary people will not suffer BUT i don't think i need to remind you about the 'glorious peaceful humane deeds of Taliban' during theri Golden Rule
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NATO's June death toll in Afghanistan nears 100
Updated at: 30 PST, Tuesday, June 29, 2010
KABUL: The death toll for foreign soldiers in Afghanistan neared the grim milestone of 100 for June alone Monday as the CIA chief warned the anti-Taliban war would be tougher and longer than expected.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said a soldier had been killed in the southern province of Helmand on Sunday, taking the June toll as tallied by media to 99 -- already the worst monthly total in nearly nine years of fighting.
The British death came after four Norwegian soldiers died when their vehicle was hit by a bomb in the northern province of Faryab on Sunday.
Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said she would travel to Afghanistan to bring home the bodies.
The toll for the year to date is 319, compared to 520 for all of 2009.
NATO says the dramatic upswing in casualty numbers in June has been caused by its stepping up military operations and taking the fight to the Taliban in areas where the Islamist militia has previously been unchallenged.
It comes as questions mount in the United States and Europe about military strategy in Afghanistan following last week's sacking of the top NATO commander, US General Stanley McChrystal.
NATO's June death toll in Afghanistan nears 100
Updated at: 30 PST, Tuesday, June 29, 2010
KABUL: The death toll for foreign soldiers in Afghanistan neared the grim milestone of 100 for June alone Monday as the CIA chief warned the anti-Taliban war would be tougher and longer than expected.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said a soldier had been killed in the southern province of Helmand on Sunday, taking the June toll as tallied by media to 99 -- already the worst monthly total in nearly nine years of fighting.
The British death came after four Norwegian soldiers died when their vehicle was hit by a bomb in the northern province of Faryab on Sunday.
Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said she would travel to Afghanistan to bring home the bodies.
The toll for the year to date is 319, compared to 520 for all of 2009.
NATO says the dramatic upswing in casualty numbers in June has been caused by its stepping up military operations and taking the fight to the Taliban in areas where the Islamist militia has previously been unchallenged.
It comes as questions mount in the United States and Europe about military strategy in Afghanistan following last week's sacking of the top NATO commander, US General Stanley McChrystal.
NATO's June death toll in Afghanistan nears 100
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Norway minister to bring dead troops back
OSLO: Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said on Monday she would personally travel to Afghanistan to bring home the four soldiers killed when a roadside bomb hit their convoy.
I will accompany the coffins back home, she told reporters in Oslo a day after the deadly attack, adding that she would travel to Afghanistan as soon as possible.
Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said he was deeply saddened by the loss of life, and said the attack was a cruel reminder of the dangers involved in Norways participation in the military mission in Afghanistan.
Even if we do everything in our power to ensure our soldiers safety, we can never be certain to avoid losses like the ones we suffered yesterday (Sunday), he told the Oslo press conference.
We know that the Norwegian forces are meeting a growing resistance in Afghanistan, and there are large challenges, he acknowledged, stressing however the importance of Norways involvement in the NATO mission there.
We also know that the NATO presence in Afghanistan has prevented al Qaeda and other terror organisations from using the country as a deployment area for terror attacks against other countries, he pointed out.
The four soldiers, aged 21 to 41, were inside an armoured vehicle when it was hit by a roadside bomb in the northern Afghan province of Faryab on Sunday. The blast nearly doubled Norways death toll in Afghanistan to nine and accounted for the most Norwegian troop casualties suffered in a single attack since World War II.
June has been the deadliest month for international troops under NATO command fighting an almost nine-year insurgency led by the Taliban.
With the latest deaths, 98 soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan this month, according to an AFP count.
Norway has about 500 soldiers in the country, most of them stationed in the capital Kabul or in the north.
Prior to Sundays deaths, the last Norwegian soldier killed in Afghanistan died in January, also in a roadside bomb attack. afp
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OSLO: Norwegian Defence Minister Grete Faremo said on Monday she would personally travel to Afghanistan to bring home the four soldiers killed when a roadside bomb hit their convoy.
I will accompany the coffins back home, she told reporters in Oslo a day after the deadly attack, adding that she would travel to Afghanistan as soon as possible.
Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said he was deeply saddened by the loss of life, and said the attack was a cruel reminder of the dangers involved in Norways participation in the military mission in Afghanistan.
Even if we do everything in our power to ensure our soldiers safety, we can never be certain to avoid losses like the ones we suffered yesterday (Sunday), he told the Oslo press conference.
We know that the Norwegian forces are meeting a growing resistance in Afghanistan, and there are large challenges, he acknowledged, stressing however the importance of Norways involvement in the NATO mission there.
We also know that the NATO presence in Afghanistan has prevented al Qaeda and other terror organisations from using the country as a deployment area for terror attacks against other countries, he pointed out.
The four soldiers, aged 21 to 41, were inside an armoured vehicle when it was hit by a roadside bomb in the northern Afghan province of Faryab on Sunday. The blast nearly doubled Norways death toll in Afghanistan to nine and accounted for the most Norwegian troop casualties suffered in a single attack since World War II.
June has been the deadliest month for international troops under NATO command fighting an almost nine-year insurgency led by the Taliban.
With the latest deaths, 98 soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan this month, according to an AFP count.
Norway has about 500 soldiers in the country, most of them stationed in the capital Kabul or in the north.
Prior to Sundays deaths, the last Norwegian soldier killed in Afghanistan died in January, also in a roadside bomb attack. afp
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absolutely right. Taliban is taliban which ever flavor it is. Both Pak and Afghan taliban are an oppressive terrorist minded people. US should stay there otherwise terrorist activities will start once again. If god forbid US is attacked again and they find the source to be af__pak pashtun terrorist belt, they wil definitely nuke it. As an Asian I also dont want any nukes in our region. So for your own good, pray that the afghan taliban are destroyed. whatever the views on ttp should hold good for af-tal as well.
As an aside, thank heavens that Faisal's plan did not work. If it had , Americans will be all over Pakistan by now. bal bal bach gaye tum log.
PS coined a new term . Af-Tal = pashtunistan taliban
prety big actually. because costwise 1 nato solider = 100 terrorists
that was the only reply you could give?
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Extremists have nothing to say generally, Mr. Ahmad. They just want to continue their violent and needless ways under the guise of some or the other excuses. While the Taliban attacked any other Afghan who questioned their authority, they hid behind protecting religion and culture and killed thousands. Today they are hiding behind "fighting foreign troops"and killing.
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KABUL, July 1, 2010 (AFP) - A NATO soldier died in an insurgent attack in southern Afghanistan Thursday, the military alliance said, the first casualty of this month after a toll of more than 100 deaths in June.
The soldier died "following an insurgent attack in southern Afghanistan today," NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said in a statement, without giving further details.
A total of 102 foreign soldiers died as a result of the Afghan war in June, making it the deadliest month for international forces since the conflict began at the end of 2001.
June's toll was almost triple the figure for May and significantly higher than the previous monthly record of 77 last August.
But senior military commanders, including the new commander of foreign forces in Afghanistan, US General David Petraeus, have warned of a fierce summer of fighting to come.
So far this year 323 foreign soldiers have died in Afghanistan, compared to 520 for the whole 2009, according to an AFP count based on the independent icasualties.org website.
The website tracks military deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, two US-led wars involving Al-Qaeda-linked Islamist militants.
There are about 140,000 foreign, mostly US, forces stationed in Afghanistan. The troops are battling Taliban and other insurgents who are trying to topple the government of President Hamid Karzai.
The soldier died "following an insurgent attack in southern Afghanistan today," NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said in a statement, without giving further details.
A total of 102 foreign soldiers died as a result of the Afghan war in June, making it the deadliest month for international forces since the conflict began at the end of 2001.
June's toll was almost triple the figure for May and significantly higher than the previous monthly record of 77 last August.
But senior military commanders, including the new commander of foreign forces in Afghanistan, US General David Petraeus, have warned of a fierce summer of fighting to come.
So far this year 323 foreign soldiers have died in Afghanistan, compared to 520 for the whole 2009, according to an AFP count based on the independent icasualties.org website.
The website tracks military deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, two US-led wars involving Al-Qaeda-linked Islamist militants.
There are about 140,000 foreign, mostly US, forces stationed in Afghanistan. The troops are battling Taliban and other insurgents who are trying to topple the government of President Hamid Karzai.
