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Nato supplies breakthrough US to officially apologise for Salala, Pakistan

Time to move on, I guess:

from: Pentagon chief all but rules out apology for Pakistan | DAWN.COM

WASHINGTON: Defence Secretary Leon Panetta all but ruled out an apology over an air strike last year that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and badly set back efforts to improve US-Pakistani ties, saying it was “time to move on.”

Pakistan banned trucks from carrying Nato supplies into neighboring Afghanistan after the air strike, a move that costs US taxpayers $100 million a month given the need to use more expensive, longer routes to the north.

To re-open the routes, Pakistan wants to impose high tariffs on Nato supplies and Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said last week that Islamabad is still seeking an unconditional apology.

But Panetta, in an interview with Reuters on Thursday, suggested that past expressions of regret and condolences were enough and held out hope that troubled talks on re-opening Pakistani supply routes for the Nato war effort could succeed anyway.

Asked whether he would oppose any further apology, Panetta said: “We’ve made clear what our position is, and I think it’s time to move on.”

“If we keep going back to the past, if we keep beating up each other based on past differences, we’ll never get anywhere,” he said.

“The time now is to move forward with this relationship, on the (supply routes), on the safe havens, on dealing with terrorism – on dealing with the issues that frankly both of us are concerned about,” Panetta said.

But the supply line negotiations have become wrapped in a larger debate within Pakistan about what it sees as US violations of its sovereignty, which includes everything from covert CIA drone strikes to the US incursion into Pakistan last year to kill al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Meanwhile, US frustration about Pakistani safe havens being used by militants attacking Nato forces in Afghanistan has become more pronounced as the US military starts winding down the war effort in Afghanistan.

During a trip to Kabul, Panetta, using unusually harsh language, said the United States was reaching the limits of its patience with Pakistan because of the safe havens it offered to insurgents fighting in neighboring Afghanistan.

But in his interview with Reuters, he appeared to temper those remarks, saying: “It’s a complicated and frustrating relationship. But it’s a necessary relationship and one that we’ve got to continue to work at on both sides.”

At the same time, Panetta acknowledged pressures building in Congress to put conditions on aid to Pakistan.

“It’s not something that we’re pushing in the Congress. But the reality is that the more problems we have, the more difficult it’s going to be in the Congress to continue to provide assistance without conditions,” Panetta said.

He also acknowledged the likelihood that a protracted cut-off of the supply routes, costing Americans millions of dollars a day, would ultimately impact aid to Pakistan as well.
 
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Leone Panetta said it "US will not apologize to Pakistan what so ever". Now Pakistan Army will take even more tough measures to stop any misadventures by US in Pakistan. Things will continue to get bad between Pakistan & US they will never improve.
 
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Leone Panetta said it "US will not apologize to Pakistan what so ever". Now Pakistan Army will take even more tough measures to stop any misadventures by US in Pakistan. Things will continue to get bad between Pakistan & US they will never improve.

good i am so happy waiting for that day when we pull back our diplomatic mission from US and give them 7 days to leave pakistan forever every amercan should leave our country .:wave:
 
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It needed to happen. The impasse was bad for both the aprties. Like it or not US needs us as much as we need them. Half out inventory is US in origin, and US remains our biggest business partner. So the matter needed a resolution. People who are jeering or cheering both fail to understand the fact that it is a need for both of us to resolve our differences, redefine the relationship and set a new set of rules which we can do business by. It was purely US's reluctance ot apologize which was the main hinderance, and to Pakistan's credit, it has stuck to its guns and US has had to make a retreat on this one. It is a consequence of Pakistan dropping its insistance on Obama apologizing to a senior officer of the Government, which has allowed it to increase the tarrif to $2000. So all in all a good outcome for both. However, while our interests remain allied, we need to move forward rather than back. I think this is a step in the right direction.
Araz
 
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It needed to happen. The impasse was bad for both the aprties. Like it or not US needs us as much as we need them. Half out inventory is US in origin, and US remains our biggest business partner. So the matter needed a resolution. People who are jeering or cheering both fail to understand the fact that it is a need for both of us to resolve our differences, redefine the relationship and set a new set of rules which we can do business by. It was purely US's reluctance ot apologize which was the main hinderance, and to Pakistan's credit, it has stuck to its guns and US has had to make a retreat on this one. It is a consequence of Pakistan dropping its insistance on Obama apologizing to a senior officer of the Government, which has allowed it to increase the tarrif to $2000. So all in all a good outcome for both. However, while our interests remain allied, we need to move forward rather than back. I think this is a step in the right direction.
Araz

Is that a done deal with a definite implementation date?
 
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heard it so many times will believe when supplies reach Afghanistan.
 
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Leone Panetta said it "US will not apologize to Pakistan what so ever". Now Pakistan Army will take even more tough measures to stop any misadventures by US in Pakistan. Things will continue to get bad between Pakistan & US they will never improve.

no problem; as long as no apology is given and as long as the Parliamentary review reccomendations are held in utter contempt -- forget about supply routes/GLOC

they can shove the so-called ''aid'' (75-80% of which benefits American entities and much of which is eaten up in admin costs)
far up their assholes

Panetta's remarks and Obama admin posturing are just their own self-made publicity stunts before election time
 
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Pakistani side rubbished such an offer

Exactly why I asked Araz this:

Is that a done deal with a definite implementation date?

about this statement he made above:

............. It is a consequence of Pakistan dropping its insistance on Obama apologizing to a senior officer of the Government, which has allowed it to increase the tarrif to $2000. So all in all a good outcome for both. ................
Araz

So Pakistan gets a watered down "apology" for a $2k rate? At least, if true, this could move things forward.
 
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Not only this apology, US must extradite or transfer these NATO soldiers to Pakistan for interrogation and waterboarding regarding Salala incidents. It will boost relations with US and Pakistan in order to step move forward.
 
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Cheng, before you get excited perhaps you should wait....on what basis are you assuming any such ''soft apology'' has been issued or even that the supply routes are to be opened?

i await your response
 
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Cheng, before you get excited perhaps you should wait....on what basis are you assuming any such ''soft apology'' has been issued or even that the supply routes are to be opened?

i await your response

I am NOT assuming anything. I am asking the question. Perhaps you missed this symbol: ? (I think it is called a "question mark".):



Exactly why I asked Araz this:



about this statement he made above:



So Pakistan gets a watered down "apology" for a $2k rate? At least, if true, this could move things forward.
 
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it can be more expensive or priceless? as its disscussed here, if americans dont appologize , they are going to regret it anyway!
with supplies or without supplies!
 
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Pakistan did not only close the supply routes due to the Salala incident. The wider picture is not being displayed here. It is in Pakistan's interest to withdraw from this WOT and the closure of NATO supply routes is a way to get the message across. I hope the Americans will understand this.
 
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