NATO does not want India at Afghanistan peace talks table

[Crystal-Clear]

Aahhhhhhh Isolation

 

[maximuswarrior]

LOL it is very enjoyable. The spoiler is being spanked by its own master.

Pakistan role in bringing stability in Afganistan is always in negative context....It is something like you are threatening Afghanistan by supporting different groups of Talibans in order to take care of your insecurity.

There is a difference between asking friendship with Afganistan like a puppet...Where as Indian involvement is more towards bringing positive things to people of Pakistan.. Even if Taliban comes to power, India and its positive contribution has created a generation of youth who understand India...

Now India is not really expecting Pakistan to allow its sphere of infkuence to reduce in Afganistan....But we have met our objective in creating a positive influence in front of good number of people of Afganistan..

In my office, the security person who comes in night shift is Afganistan.....Sometime..i get a chance to speak with him..He left his country when he was 26. Now he may be in 30's..He is a classic case of a generation which saw the contribution of India in Afganistan....He has studied in a school operated by India and completed his vocational traning in India prior to immigrating to US...His positive words about India and the role of Pakistan in Afganistan is a real time impression i got from him...

So in a nutshell, Pakistan may try to stop India in negotiating table but you can not stop one segment of people to see India in a good way...It is too late for Pakistan..

Dude, you missed the memo.

Pakistan doesn’t give a fvck about Afghanistan, NATO, US or India for that matter. You all belong in the same camp and have been sowing terror against Pakistan for the past decade. We are not going to be impressed by some irrelevant talks. It is meaningless.

It is just that your Afghandoo child molesting Afghan brothers keep begging US/NATO to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table. LOL Hilarious part is that Taliban don’t even want to sit with the illegitimate Afghan government. Hence your daddy has to constantly plead to Pakistan. Pakistan is merely extending help and you need be thankful on your knees for that.

We have already chosen a different camp. The US/NATO and Rapistan aka India are free to bring peace to Afghanistan, but something they have failed to do for the past 18 years LOL We simply don’t fvcking care.

Afghanistan is a dead horse and we have moved on long long ago. Afghanistan maybe an important terror launch platform for India against Pakistan, but we have largely neutralized that threat. You have been checkmated like a little bitch quite a while ago. As far as Pakistan is concerned, you can take Afghan refugees and help them out of their God forsaken misery. Yet your Afghan brothers keep coming to Pakistan. Go figure.

 

[Cash GK]

iran will facilitate india in afghanistan.

pak will help saudia near chabahar..

 

[Awan68]

iran will facilitate india in afghanistan.

If Afghan war is concluded and the US leaves, we will turn our full focus on Iran and how to make it the little bitch it is. For too long have they taken benefit of the fact that most of our attention is focused on the Afghan front.

 

[Path-Finder]

If Afghan war is concluded and the US leaves, we will turn our full focus on Iran and how to make it the little bitch it is. For too long have they taken benefit of the fact that most of our attention is focused on the Afghan front.

No need, they will do what is right by them but I can say one thing Pakistan can facilitate Turkey in afghanistan because they have already made a dent in their political and economical environment. If you are an afghani who would you prefer india or Turkey?

 

[fitpOsitive]

Honestly speaking...Forget India....peace in Afghanistan is in best interest of Pakistan....Feel sorry for the peoplen of Afgans where there fate of living in peace is determined by outsiders...

Its their own fault.

 

[Path-Finder]

pak will help saudia near chabahar..

I think Pakistan establishing a UAE/Saudi oil refinery has already done that, originally there was going to be a irani refinery as per what some ppp people said. But the gulf establishing their refinery seems to be a change in policy.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Now?
they realized it now?

Prime Minister Narendra Modi (R) and Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani in New Delhi. Photo: PTI

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has denied that India plays a crucial role in the Afghanistan peace and reconciliation process, and instead believes that Pakistan has the “most important role”, along with the US, in establishing truce with the Taliban.

Alejandro Alvargonzález, Assistant Secretary General for Political Affairs and Security Policy, NATO, told ThePrint that the peace process is led by the Afghanistan government where the US is “playing a crucial role” along with Pakistan, but India cannot be party to those talks just because Pakistan is a player in it.

“There is an international community that helps the Afghan government to sit with others and the US is the other actor whose role is very important. But let’s not go mentioning every single country that could have a role because you will then have all countries in the world (coming in as stakeholder),” Alvargonzález, who attended the Raisina Dialogue held last week, said.

“Pakistan’s role is of utmost importance in Afghanistan. I think India has a prominent place in Afghanistan now. But there are hundreds there that have a stake there. It is an Afghan-owned process and it should be kept like that,” Alvargonzález said.

No part in talks unless Kabul invites

India is now in a catch-22 situation of sorts with the US accelerating its talks with the Taliban, with Pakistan in tow.

While the US had urged India to take up a more combative role in Afghanistan by sending its security forces there to fight the Taliban, India has maintained that it will not speak to the Taliban directly unless it is formally invited by the Afghan government to do so.

However, New Delhi is concerned that the talks could be being steered by the US for its own benefit, but that Pakistan’s presence could throw up security challenges for it.

“It is clear that the US is negotiating with the Taliban on their own behalf. NATO has no idea what it is talking about or what is going on. I agree that Pakistan plays the most critical role in it but how it discharges its responsibilities, that is something that needs to be seen,” said former high commissioner of India to Pakistan T.C.A. Raghavan.

“Problem is Taliban is ready to talk with everyone but the Afghan government, and India cannot be part of those talks unless the Afghan government invites it to be part of that process. After all, Afghanistan is a sovereign country,” Raghavan, who is now director-general of the Indian Council of World Affairs, added.

Calls for clear policy on Afghanistan

There is now growing clamour that India should come up with a comprehensive Afghanistan policy wherein it will not just focus on its development by granting aid, but also outline whether its security forces should partake in the reconciliation process.

While Army Chief General Bipin Rawat had stressed last week that India should not remain out of the Taliban talks since it has an interest in the war-ravaged country, the Ministry of External Affairs tried to downplay his remarks, saying India supports only those peace talks that is “Afghan-owned” and “Afghan-led”.

These issues were also discussed in the 10 January meeting between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and US Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad.

“We are working on a regional grouping on the peace talks where India will be a party,” Khalilzad had told The Print.

http://southasianmonitor.com/2019/0...bDYltu25o0yjli-pID4tMwLqCUH39iJ1JiJvRCeAI7Zco

 

[American Pakistani]

You have been neighbor of Afghanistan for 70 years, Iran since 5-10 millennia, US has been there for 15 years and Russia for 10 years. What have you all done till now? Give China a chance.

You mean before 70 years, there was Himalayan or Karakoram sea east of Afghanistan?

Afghanistan situation won't solve unless they realize they cannot bring their bharat master to fight against Pakistan. The only thing that can bring peace to Afghanistan is if Afghanistan kick bhartis and show sincerity towards peace with Pakistan and eliminate ttp bla safe heavens in Afghanistan.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Prime Minister Narendra Modi (R) and Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani in New Delhi. Photo: PTI

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has denied that India plays a crucial role in the Afghanistan peace and reconciliation process, and instead believes that Pakistan has the “most important role”, along with the US, in establishing truce with the Taliban.

Alejandro Alvargonzález, Assistant Secretary General for Political Affairs and Security Policy, NATO, told ThePrint that the peace process is led by the Afghanistan government where the US is “playing a crucial role” along with Pakistan, but India cannot be party to those talks just because Pakistan is a player in it.

“There is an international community that helps the Afghan government to sit with others and the US is the other actor whose role is very important. But let’s not go mentioning every single country that could have a role because you will then have all countries in the world (coming in as stakeholder),” Alvargonzález, who attended the Raisina Dialogue held last week, said.

“Pakistan’s role is of utmost importance in Afghanistan. I think India has a prominent place in Afghanistan now. But there are hundreds there that have a stake there. It is an Afghan-owned process and it should be kept like that,” Alvargonzález said.

No part in talks unless Kabul invites

India is now in a catch-22 situation of sorts with the US accelerating its talks with the Taliban, with Pakistan in tow.

While the US had urged India to take up a more combative role in Afghanistan by sending its security forces there to fight the Taliban, India has maintained that it will not speak to the Taliban directly unless it is formally invited by the Afghan government to do so.

However, New Delhi is concerned that the talks could be being steered by the US for its own benefit, but that Pakistan’s presence could throw up security challenges for it.

“It is clear that the US is negotiating with the Taliban on their own behalf. NATO has no idea what it is talking about or what is going on. I agree that Pakistan plays the most critical role in it but how it discharges its responsibilities, that is something that needs to be seen,” said former high commissioner of India to Pakistan T.C.A. Raghavan.

“Problem is Taliban is ready to talk with everyone but the Afghan government, and India cannot be part of those talks unless the Afghan government invites it to be part of that process. After all, Afghanistan is a sovereign country,” Raghavan, who is now director-general of the Indian Council of World Affairs, added.

Calls for clear policy on Afghanistan

There is now growing clamour that India should come up with a comprehensive Afghanistan policy wherein it will not just focus on its development by granting aid, but also outline whether its security forces should partake in the reconciliation process.

While Army Chief General Bipin Rawat had stressed last week that India should not remain out of the Taliban talks since it has an interest in the war-ravaged country, the Ministry of External Affairs tried to downplay his remarks, saying India supports only those peace talks that is “Afghan-owned” and “Afghan-led”.

These issues were also discussed in the 10 January meeting between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and US Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad.

“We are working on a regional grouping on the peace talks where India will be a party,” Khalilzad had told The Print.

http://southasianmonitor.com/2019/0...bDYltu25o0yjli-pID4tMwLqCUH39iJ1JiJvRCeAI7Zco

So much for an "alleged" shupa powar LOL.

Pakistan role in bringing stability in Afganistan is always in negative context....It is something like you are threatening Afghanistan by supporting different groups of Talibans in order to take care of your insecurity.

There is a difference between asking friendship with Afganistan like a puppet...Where as Indian involvement is more towards bringing positive things to people of Pakistan.. Even if Taliban comes to power, India and its positive contribution has created a generation of youth who understand India...

Now India is not really expecting Pakistan to allow its sphere of infkuence to reduce in Afganistan....But we have met our objective in creating a positive influence in front of good number of people of Afganistan..

In my office, the security person who comes in night shift is Afganistan.....Sometime..i get a chance to speak with him..He left his country when he was 26. Now he may be in 30's..He is a classic case of a generation which saw the contribution of India in Afganistan....He has studied in a school operated by India and completed his vocational traning in India prior to immigrating to US...His positive words about India and the role of Pakistan in Afganistan is a real time impression i got from him...

So in a nutshell, Pakistan may try to stop India in negotiating table but you can not stop one segment of people to see India in a good way...It is too late for Pakistan..

So that is another way of saying that pakistan sidelined india in afghanistan. LOL

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

You mean before 70 years, there was Himalayan or Karakoram sea east of Afghanistan?

Afghanistan situation won't solve unless they realize they cannot bring their bharat master to fight against Pakistan. The only thing that can bring peace to Afghanistan is if Afghanistan kick bhartis and show sincerity towards peace with Pakistan and eliminate ttp bla safe heavens in Afghanistan.

Common sense. About 70 years ago there was British Raj. Pak didn't have it's own foreign policy then.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If the american superpower cannot fulfil it's interests in afghanistan after 17 years and 100s of billions of dollars spent, there is NO way the indians can.

Common sense. About 70 years ago there was British Raj. Pak didn't have it's own foreign policy then.

70 years ago was 1949. Pakistan did exist. Get your facts right please.

 

[I S I]

Turns out that fixing problems from A to Z with cow piss/dung doesn't get you special privileges in getting involved in important world issues.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Turns out that fixing problems from A to Z with a gaw muttar/dung doesn't get you special privileges in important world issues.

We may be interested but please tell why is Afghanistan important to India? Is it even relevant to us?

Afghans may live or die. Why do we care?

 

[I S I]

We may be interested but please tell why is Afghanistan important to India? Is it even relevant to us?

Afghans may live or die. Why do we care?

If Naswaristan is so worthless to India then why your dihati country built a Parliament for them? Why your dihati country built a library for drug addict Naswaris? As trump rightfully said that who would even visit a library in Naswaristan? Why built Salma dam? Does the water from Dam comes to India when it gets full?

Enlighten me why..

Edit: not to forget 100s of km of roads that built by your dihati nation just because Afghanistan have no value to you?
Sasta gaw muttar piya hai kya aaj?