NATO data: Assad winning the war for Syrians’ hearts and minds

[BDforever]

LoLz, like we care

who knows

 

[mohsen]

@mohsen

Fair point about the USA training camp I concede this. Never said I cannot be wrong and a thank you for providing me some new info.

You still have to provide similar info for EU and Israel to base your statement on facts.

As for the American fighter, I tend to ignore conspiracy theories. look she could have just as easily (more so actually) caught a plane to Turkey/Iraq/Jordan and joined the rebels. She wouldn't be the first person to do so.

first of all let me clear myself, my source of information isn't western media, but our own media, long time ago before some one decide to leak the info about U.S training base in Jordan, we heard it in our own media, so we didn't need foxnews confirmation.
for now European are arming rebels officially, but regarding the past:
EUobserver.com / News In Brief / European jihadists in Syria spook Germany
Germany fears return of European jihadists in Syria - Miscellaneous - Panorama | Armenian news
Young German Jihadists Fight on Side of Rebels in Syrian War - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Analysis: Syria's Assad faces growing rebel, foreign threat | Reuters
France gives non-lethal military aid to Syrian opposition: PM
At least 50 French citizens ‘waging jihad in Syria’
Yahoo! News UK & Ireland - Syria Rebels 'Aided By British Intelligence'
Syrian conflict tests European policy on violent jihad - Threat Matrix
Open War Crimes: US and British-Backed Weapons Airlift From Croatia to Terrorists in Syria | UK Column
75 Planes With 3,000 Tons Of Weapons Left Croatia For Syria | Croatia Week

I hope It's enough for you, and regarding Israel, closest friend to U.S and number one enemy of Syrian government, doesn't need further explanation, specially after all of those images and videos of Israeli weapons and even cars seized from F$A and that so called hospital camp for F$A terrorists in Golan heights and Israel's direct attack to Syria's military bases.

 

[Hussein]

Europe and USA spoke about training before PressTV speaks about it. that's why you could see the articles above too.
PressTV only copies the news , except for inside news.

And there is a huge difference between some crazy individuals who go jihad and policy of a nation.
Here many times on TV they say how they are worried about the French salafi going in Syria being dangerous for France.

USA and Europe never hide their support for rebels, support which is still limited compared to other countries.
Israel didn't take side EXCEPT against Hezbollah ... but quite logic: Hezbollah is the number one ennemy of Israel.
And Syria is not the number one ennemy of Israel...

 

[mohsen]

@mohsen


Has the Russian missle defense system arrived yet?

On other note, just because someone said we should withdraw our ambassadors, it doesn't mean that they are siding with an A or B state. = /

well, you heard bashar asad, except that, all reports are unofficial, and according to them Syria already has S300 and 14 days earlier training of their operating crews have finished, I also saw a report about delivery of S400 in the near future.

and regarding the other note, It depends on your logic and definition of siding.

 

[Doritos11]

S400 has a range of 400km, what does Syria need that for, besides they said they will not export this system.

 

[mohsen]

Europe and USA spoke about training before PressTV speaks about it. that's why you could see the articles above too.
PressTV only copies the news , except for inside news.

And there is a huge difference between some crazy individuals who go jihad and policy of a nation.
Here many times on TV they say how they are worried about the French salafi going in Syria being dangerous for France.

USA and Europe never hide their support for rebels, support which is still limited compared to other countries.
Israel didn't take side EXCEPT against Hezbollah ... but quite logic: Hezbollah is the number one ennemy of Israel.
And Syria is not the number one ennemy of Israel...

wrong, long time ago commentators on presstv were referring to trainings in turkey and Jordan, you just have to listen to them, what you see is a special news confirming the earlier reports.
and again you can repeat that funny story about Europeans again, it's your choice.
yes, they hide it behind some lame propaganda about sanding humanitarian aids, while they were sending weapons.
your obsession for supporting Israel doesn't let you to see the fact that Israel is the only country that has directly attacked to Syria military bases so I have no answer for that.
regarding your last line, better to read my comment again.

 

[mohsen]

S400 has a range of 400km, what does Syria need that for, besides they said they will not export this system.

No, S400 has different ranges, the important factor is it's upgraded systems for accuracy and resisting against electronic warfare.

 

[Hussein]

No you get me wrong. It is a long time newspapers say here that Europe and USA are training people in Turkey and Jordania. It is what i was meaning.

For Israel, i try to understand their policy. And it is clear from their news and few friends i have there (few are Iranian Jews) that the ennemy is Hezbollah . Not Syria. All Israelis i know and i can read in a forum i participate often in France... all say they just cannot choose one side and it is not the business of Israel to choose one side.
I guess Israel is doing everything the way Hezbollah is weakened.

ah and i heard many Israelis saying that they would prefer Hezbollah fighters enter Lebanon army, the way Lebanon having a real army, efficient. and then stopping the fact there is a militia in Lebanon.

 

[ResurgentIran]

More importantly: Assad is has turned the tide, and is now on the offensive. He is hitting back and winning on the ground.
Even FOX news admit it LMFAO

Above video speaks about how Iran sent IRGC special unit of 150 personnel, to train the Syrian Army forces. Even the rebels in Al-Qusayr admit the game has changed and there is an entirely new spirit in Syrian soldiers, that was not seen before. IRGC has instilled the fire in them and the balance of power is steadily going in Syrian gov favour.

 

[Hack-Hook]

what can I say? Hezbollat, Iranians, Iraqi, Houtis and SAA Alawis with air bombings, missiles, tanks, chemos etc are fighting the poorly armed FSA and foreign mujahideen with only hand held weapons and less used tanks? Anyway, the war isn't gonna finish in a month anyway, probably for another 5 years because you Shias are united but we aren't. This is a problem.

No it's not because we are united its because people of syria have known the true face of these alqaeda sympathizers and fireign mercenaries of foreign cannibal army

 

[Hack-Hook]

Let's slow down guys, maybe they were referring by the word "win" to his forces taking off (literally) Syrians' minds out of their heads and their hearts out of their chests, in that case yes he won their minds, hearts, eyes, heads and more of Syrians body origans. I hope that what they meant, otherwise this should be in the Guinness Book as the most ridiculous lie in history.

Well by this definitions I'm ready to accept foreign canibbal army is undisputed winner of the heart and mind of syrian people. They ever promised of more such victories and made videos of their conquest

 

[Battle of Kursk]

@mohsen

If you care to take a critical look you can see yourself the difference between the link about USA to the one about EU "training".
It is the difference of night and day, and excuse me if I completely ignore questionable sources. I can provide similar ones which say Iran was bombed twice over last night and going to get an Atom bomb tonight (I am talking about the lat 3 links).

So there are extremists that came from EU countries, this does not show that they were trained by EU. Some extremists came from Iraq and Syria itself, applying the same logic you are saying that Assad and Malici are training Al Qaeda rebels to fight against themselves...?

No one is denying that EU sends aid in non weapon form (food and health type) and probably aids with intelligence. However this is not the same as saying they are training rebels as you know yourself.

The fact of the matter that completely opposite to the USA case where one link was enough, in EU case you have resorted to many links, none of which say what you claim, except a few bogus sites. And no link at all regarding Israel.
I think that maybe you yourself understand that you are wrong here?
@Yzd Khalifa

Thanks for the concern mate, but it seems like we got ourselves a nice discussion after all.

 

[somebozo]

A revolt let by foreign funding and backing is not a revolt but state sponsored terrorism.

 

[mohsen]

@mohsen

If you care to take a critical look you can see yourself the difference between the link about USA to the one about EU "training".
It is the difference of night and day, and excuse me if I completely ignore questionable sources. I can provide similar ones which say Iran was bombed twice over last night and going to get an Atom bomb tonight (I am talking about the lat 3 links).

So there are extremists that came from EU countries, this does not show that they were trained by EU. Some extremists came from Iraq and Syria itself, applying the same logic you are saying that Assad and Malici are training Al Qaeda rebels to fight against themselves...?

No one is denying that EU sends aid in non weapon form (food and health type) and probably aids with intelligence. However this is not the same as saying they are training rebels as you know yourself.

The fact of the matter that completely opposite to the USA case where one link was enough, in EU case you have resorted to many links, none of which say what you claim, except a few bogus sites. And no link at all regarding Israel.
I think that maybe you yourself understand that you are wrong here?

Israel Rescues Al-Qaeda Terrorists From Syria. Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
Israeli- and Hizballah-controlled enclaves inside Syria

Israeli's support for F$A is most obvious case, that's why I didn't post any link, even Israeli media have repeated these news about Israeli weapons in Syria, by the way do you want to deny Israel's attack on Syrian military bases?

each country has done part of job for supporting the F$A, when did I say European are the trainers? feel free to review my comments again. and regarding sending weapons, you can't discredit the last 2 links, cause this news were revealed by Jutarnji list newspaper in Croatia and it became an scandal, and that's one of the reasons that EU decided to put an weapon embargo on F$A, to cover their faces. and as I said it belonged to the past, right now they are supporting these terrorists officially.

 

[TheThreePashas]

NATO doesn't need to say anything. I think it's pretty obvious Assad is winning. Russia is just strengthening his hand with weapons a little bit more before this apparent peace conference. The idea is that Assad has the high ground and by putting the opposition in such a tough spot, make them look like they're the ones not negotiating for peace. Seems to be working