NATO copter downed; Navy SEALs among the 30 U.S. dead

[lem34]

So much lie about "freedom of speech/Information" in the USA :

I dont know how they get away with so many lies. Americans and co are consumate liars.

 

[bularab]

It seems that all the advanced technology of the oil-hungry-coalltion can't deal even with Russian weapon from 1950. Nice one, America.

 

[CardSharp]

It seems that all the advanced technology of the oil-hungry-coalltion can't deal even with Russian weapon from 1950. Nice one, America.

We still don't know how the Helicopter was brought down. Besides the way a weapon is deployed is a lot more important the weapon itself in this case.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

those crappy old RPG-7s they use (and what many armies still use) are crude and not all-too-accurate --especially longer range... but when they do hit --then yes, they cause sufficient damage. And this Chinook made a mistake by coming in hot and fully loaded, low approach.

as per reports, the aircraft was hit by several on-target shots. It wasnt just one guy on the ground shooting a single round for the kill.

it was a textbook ''LURE & AMBUSH''

 

[CardSharp]

those crappy old RPG-7s they use (and what many armies still use) are crude and not all-too-accurate --especially longer range... but when they do hit --then yes, they cause sufficient damage. And this Chinook made a mistake by coming in hot and fully loaded, low approach.

as per reports, the aircraft was hit by several on-target shots. It wasnt just one guy on the ground shooting a single round for the kill.

it was a textbook ''LURE & AMBUSH''

All very logical but I am still surprised at the level of operational sophistication of this attack.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

from what i read, the taleban insurgents found some way to disseminate ''misinformation'' which ended up reaching NATO forces through some kind of channels.

 

[Battle Axe]

In case it has not been pointed out yet, the PA has also suffered chopper and troop losses from occasional 'lucky' RPG hits and AA Guns.

I don't really see this particular incident as that 'unusual'.

I don't recall a PA heli being downed by AA guns. Please elaborate...

And US will be thanking God that Taliban no more got those Stingers, else it did be bull's eye hits & many...

 

[CardSharp]

from what i read, the taleban insurgents found some way to disseminate ''misinformation'' which ended up reaching NATO forces through some kind of channels.

''some kind of channel'' has to be a US paid informant acting as a double agent.

That is one of the biggest problems the US hasn't been able to get a handle on. They don't have anyone in the population that they can trust. It makes their intelligence unreliable and thus many of their operations counter-productive.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

''some kind of channel'' has to be a US paid informant acting as a double agent.

That is one of the biggest problems the US hasn't been able to get a handle on. They don't have anyone in the population that they can trust. It makes their intelligence unreliable and thus many of their operations counter-productive.

off topic, but remember this? :


CIA base bomber 'was double agent' - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English

 

[CardSharp]

off topic, but remember this? :


CIA base bomber 'was double agent' - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English

Yes I most certainly do. I was thinking about that incident while I was typing the post. I even remember his chilling pre-suicide bombing video.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Afghanistan is hell on earth for anybody and everybody who tries or has tried to militarily occupy it. If not initially......then at least eventually!

history has shown this...

 

[bularab]

Don't bother the Taliban while they are eating... or meet your tragic end

 

[CardSharp]

Afghanistan is hell on earth for anybody and everybody who tries or has tried to militarily occupy it. If not initially......then at least eventually!

history has shown this...

I don't believe Afghanistan is UNconquerable but it's definitely not a good idea by any stretch.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

with the Rules of Engagement (ROEs) they have to deal with, its impossible

to ''tame'' Afghanistan to their favour would require nothing short of what Webster comtemporary dictionary (and the ICJ) would label as ''genocide''

 

[Battle Axe]

I don't believe Afghanistan is UNconquerable but it's definitely not a good idea by any stretch.

Sure. Conquering Afghanistan is as easy as said but when one wishes to consolidate the gains and goes to hold the territory, it is then the men drown from te barren hills to wreck both the conqueror and the conquered.

Ignore them should be the mantra.