NATO copter downed; Navy SEALs among the 30 U.S. dead

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

now all the proves of osama,s death have been wiped pot.......................

 

[S.M.R]

So all the Navy Seals have been killed, who did OBL's operation??? good, was trying to search my post where I said that the Seals who took part in operation should worry about their lives...

 

[S.M.R]

Team 6; coincidence or what?

Sssshhhh............. Dont try be C.T.

 

[Devil Soul]

US probes Afghanistan special forces helicopter crash
The US military is trying to confirm whether insurgent fire brought down a helicopter in Afghanistan with the loss of 38 people, most of them Americans.

The dead included Navy Seals, Afghan commandos, US Air Force personnel, a dog handler, the Chinook crew and a civilian interpreter.

The 30 US deaths are the largest single American loss of life in the conflict.

On Sunday another four Nato soldiers were killed in two separate attacks in eastern and southern Afghanistan.

Nato has not yet confirmed the nationalities of the four soldiers.

The Chinook helicopter went down in a district of Wardak province, west of Kabul, early on Saturday.

Officials, witnesses and the Taliban have said it was shot down by insurgents during a combat mission.

The presence of at least 17 of the Seals has led to speculation that they were involved in a highly significant operation, such as targeting a high-ranking figure in the insurgency.

US sources have said they were from the same Navy Seal unit, known as Team Six, which killed Osama Bin Laden in May, but are "unlikely" to be the same personnel.

American officials have refused to confirm the cause of the crash on the record but some have told news agencies they believe the Chinook was shot down.

Afghan officials in Wardak province said a Taliban rocket hit the craft. A local resident who saw the incident told the BBC that he saw the Chinook catch fire and crash after a rocket hit it.

The Taliban claimed they shot the helicopter down as it was involved in a raid on a house in Wardak where insurgents were gathering.

The BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul says it is rare for the Taliban to shoot down aircraft.

The Taliban say they have modified their rocket-propelled grenades to improve their accuracy but that may not be true, our correspondent says.

'Extraordinary sacrifices'
The top US military officer, Adm Mike Mullen, said it was too soon to say what brought it down.
"Information is still coming in about this incident. I think it's important that we allow investigators to do their work before jumping to too many conclusions," the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

President Barack Obama paid his condolences to the Americans and Afghans killed in the crash.

"Their deaths are a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made by the men and women of our military and their families, including all who have served in Afghanistan," he said in a statement on Saturday.

The US is relying more on special forces to fight the war against insurgents in Afghanistan, carrying out night raids against key leaders and conducting surveillance operations.

After last year's increase in troop numbers - credited with some success in reducing Taliban activity in southern Afghanistan - some withdrawals have begun. The goal is for all foreign combat forces to leave the country by the end of 2014.

There are currently about 140,000 foreign troops - about 100,000 of them American - in Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban insurgency and training local troops to take over security.

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force has begun the process of handing over control of security in some areas to local forces. Bamiyan became the first province to pass to Afghan control in mid-July.

Who are the Navy Seals?

2,500 US Navy special forces
They carry out Sea, Air and Land operations, hence their name
Origins lie in World War II
Involved in Vietnam, Panama, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen
Team Six is elite group officially known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group
Team Six based near Virginia Beach, members usually have five years of experience, part of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC )

Nato's worst Afghan moments

6 April 2005 - Chinook crash in Ghazni province kills 15 US soldiers and three civilian contractors
28 June 2005 - 16 US troops killed when Taliban bring down Chinook in Kunar province
16 August 2005 - 17 Spanish soldiers die when Cougar helicopter crashes near Herat
5 May 2006 - 10 US soldiers die after Chinook crashes east of Kabul
2 Sept 2006 - 14 UK personnel killed when RAF Nimrod explodes following mid-air refuelling
18 August 2008 - 10 French soldiers killed in Taliban ambush east of Kabul
6 August 2011 - 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers killed in Chinook crash
Source: BBC and news agencies

 

[Ahmad Abdullah Ravian]

Well at least Taliban took the courage that Pakistan should have exercised for US

 

[S.M.R]

US choppers haven't been shot down by RPG in 10 years in Afghanistan and suddenly two Chinooks in two weeks?

In those 10 years OBL was alive in US books, now he is dead and claimed to be living in Pakistan, something new was required to be happened. All lies, damn lies... will now become truth.

 

[Oldman1]

Well at least Taliban took the courage that Pakistan should have exercised for US

We are at war with the Taliban. Pakistan is not. Hence no need for the courage unless they are stupid to try. The Navy SEALs at least have the courage to go and find Osama Bin Laden in a high dangerous territory where people loves Osama and willing to die for him.

 

[Oldman1]

So all the Navy Seals have been killed, who did OBL's operation??? good, was trying to search my post where I said that the Seals who took part in operation should worry about their lives...

Good question and the answer is no. None of the SEALs involved in the death of Osama was killed. Just other members of SIX.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Good question and the answer is no. None of the SEALs involved in the death of Osama was killed. Just other members of SIX.

People like to make everything controversial.Among the stories making rounds one is that the team that killed OBL is dead and now no one has the proof that OBL was killed.

 

[S.M.R]

Good question and the answer is no. None of the SEALs involved in the death of Osama was killed. Just other members of SIX.

Another U turn. Do we know the names of members who took part in that operation? It is just been told what you are saying...

 

[VelocuR]

What happen to Chinook transport helicopter's radar warning system ?

Few days later, US will blame on Pakistan for no reason regarding Navy Seals deaths.

 

[Oldman1]

Another U turn. Do we know the names of members who took part in that operation? It is just been told what you are saying...

Nevermind I think you are referring to the Osama raid. No they will never release that. Unless some idiot tries.

 

[Oldman1]

What happen to Chinook transport helicopter's radar warning system ?

Few days later, US will blame on Pakistan for no reason regarding Navy Seals deaths.

Useless against rpgs. They are not guided so no warning. I think the best chance against just weapons would be the active protection system used on tanks. When a fast moving projectile heads towards a helo, it could disable or destroyed the weapon before it harms it. If indeed the helo was shot down which so far looks like it did, it would raise awareness to implement such a project.

 

[Juice]

I read in one of the news papers that the among the dead 25 Seals are those who did operation in Abbatabad ? is it so ?

Same unit, not the same guys. They were rotated out of Afghanistan for obvious reasons.

 

[soul hacker]

We are at war with the Taliban. Pakistan is not. Hence no need for the courage unless they are stupid to try. The Navy SEALs at least have the courage to go and find Osama Bin Laden in a high dangerous territory where people loves Osama and willing to die for him.

oh PAKISTAN IS NOT{to hamari army jhak mar rhi hai }