Nationalism instigated to challenge political system in Vietnam

[Unknown-V]

Cpc must help Vcp?

Man, you are a funny clown.

That makes no sense, if VCP's regime collapses, why does CCP face the same threat? Viets are not even the same species as us. They are closer to monkeys.

 

[empirefighter]

That's exact order for a color revolution, my friend. You are in prison if you say this in Vietnam.



I agree. I think China will never allow VCP to collapse. In fact, if you follow recent precautionary steps taken by the VCP, they are learning from China experience against foreign meddling. VCP has one, and only one place to go: Father Beijing.

Overseas anti-VCP southern Vietnamese, Foreign social media, US government, and liberal voices at home are are Vietnam's biggest threats. In that order.

不破不立。VCP collapse is not a bad choice for China. Whatever, color revolution will be a very possible future for VN, I am very happy to see that VCP collapse. For us, VCP is actually a party of anti China, if VN changes another anti China party to take over the country, I do not see any difference to us.

 

[Kai Liu]

That makes no sense, if VCP's regime collapses, why does CCP face the same threat? Viets are not even the same species as us. They are closer to monkeys.

 

[Viva_Viet]

@TaiShang if u can not stop bad words of other stupid Cnese, then I wont reply to u any more.

@Viet u should also stop replying to stupid Cnese or we will.not consider u r Vnese.

lets just talk to our friend here. we dont comw here for bark contest wt dogs

 

[Brainsucker]

That makes no sense, if VCP's regime collapses, why does CCP face the same threat? Viets are not even the same species as us. They are closer to monkeys.

I start to understand why you put Hu Jun photo as your avatar, duh.

 

[bolo]

I think Beijing needs to seize the opportunity. Be proactive instead of reactive. Just like there is Inner Mongolia versus Outer Mongolia and Inner Manchuria versus Outer Manchuria, there is also Inner Annam and Outer Annam. Unfortunately, the barbaric uncivilized Outer Annam took control and purged the country of Inner Annam population in the 1970s. The Inner Annam population was already weakened by policies of Western colonialists and Japanese occupiers.

Taking a step back, the very common Chinese blind spot is being flattered at the idea that some other nation looks up to China as a role model. It simply does not happen that way. It's more like a joke how easily Chinese people are flattered.

Kill a bunch of Chinese or pro-Chinese people. A few years later, flatter the Chinese by saying you are learning from them as a role model, then the Chinese get all excited like a dog with tail wagging at the idea that some foreigner "looks up to Chinese" and the killing is long forgotten. Rinse and repeat.

Modern Chinese need to break free from old Chinese teaching and be more aggressive. East Asians in Europe and America are very passive and viewed as feminine. I think CPC need to be aggressive with its neighbors. The stigma of sick man of asia is still in the subconscious minds of us westerners.
If China want to be respected and not simply use as a monetary tool, it need to show aggressive behavior like an alpha male

 

[Feng Leng]

Modern Chinese need to break free from old Chinese teaching and be more aggressive. East Asia in Europe and America are very passive and viewed as feminine. I think CPC need to be aggressive with its neighbors. The stigma of sick man of asia is still in the subconscious minds of us westerners.
If China want to be respected and not simply use as a monetary tool, it need to show aggressive behavior like an alpha male

The short answer is that reform and opening up did not work properly. The society polarized. Some people think having a middle and upper class that is large in absolute numbers will impress foreigners but actually it does not because many are still poor. Moreover, the upper class are more afraid than ever of descending back to poor status so their own selfish interest comes first. In some ways, I think China is weaker than in the 1950s. The current administration has taken huge steps to curb the trend but the situation is still quite severe with the result that Beijing is still too reactive rather than proactive.

 

[Zsari]

不破不立。VCP collapse is not a bad choice for China. Whatever, color revolution will be a very possible future for VN, I am very happy to see that VCP collapse. For us, VCP is actually a party of anti China, if VN changes another anti China party to take over the country, I do not see any difference to us.

Color revolution leads to a failed state or a western puppet, neither is in China's interest. While VCP can be anti-China, it is not necessarily pro-US. For its own survival, it has to keep the US at an arm's length, and that is better than the alternative.

 

[Feng Leng]

Color revolution leads to a failed state or a western puppet, neither is in China's interest. While VCP can be anti-China, it is not necessarily pro-US. For its own survival, it has to keep the US at an arm's length, and that is better than the alternative.

No. A colored revolution is the perfect scenario for a military intervention to carve out a truly pro-China statelet similar to the pro-China statelets on the northern Myanmar border.

Of course if Beijing does nothing, then the opportunity is lost. There is no difference between an anti-China VCP and an anti-China pro-US Vietnam.

Military intervention, of course, requires courage. I already explained in the post below why courage is unfortunately lacking.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nati...system-in-vietnam.563165/page-2#post-10559781

 

[Zsari]

No. A colored revolution is the perfect scenario for a military intervention to carve out a truly pro-China statelet similar to the pro-China statelets on the northern Myanmar border.

Of course if Beijing does nothing, then the opportunity is lost. There is no difference between an anti-China VCP and an anti-China pro-US Vietnam.

Military intervention, of course, requires courage. I already explained in the post below why courage is unfortunately lacking.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nati...system-in-vietnam.563165/page-2#post-10559781

The difference between a US puppet and VCP is the amount of US presence in the South China Sea. Do you really want to give US a foothold on those islands?

 

[Viet]

@Viet u should also stop replying to stupid Cnese or we will.not consider u r Vnese.

lets just talk to our friend here. we dont comw here for bark contest wt dogs

I think you are right. I shouldn’t participate in a barking contest. Worthless.

 

[Misay]

The Vietnamese do not know that they cannot pay the price of American democracy.The moth flapped the fire.maybe，Vietnam thinks it's smarter than the Soviet union.

That makes no sense, if VCP's regime collapses, why does CCP face the same threat? Viets are not even the same species as us. They are closer to monkeys.

你在侮辱那些娶越南人的同胞。而且越南国内的华族是汉人，别AOE了。

 

[Feng Leng]

The difference between a US puppet and VCP is the amount of US presence in the South China Sea. Do you really want to give US a foothold on those islands?

After VCP is overthrown, China can create a buffer zone by absorbing some of Vietnam's northern provinces like Lang Son with military action. PLAN can also take over some of the South China Sea reefs from Vietnam. This is a net gain for Chinese security. After we have our buffer zone, it no longer matters what the pro-US puppet does.

 

[bolo]

After VCP is overthrown, China can create a buffer zone by absorbing some of Vietnam's northern provinces like Lang Son with military action. PLAN can also take over some of the South China Sea reefs from Vietnam. This is a net gain for Chinese security. After we have our buffer zone, it no longer matters what the pro-US puppet does.

Did northern Vietnam used to belong to China?

 

[Feng Leng]

Did northern Vietnam used to belong to China?

It was directly incorporated as part of China for many centuries and was a vassal state before the Opium War.