57mm aa guns against rafale su30 and mirage2000.
Your kidding right.
Su30 will carry supersonic brahmos cruise missle range 300km five times speed of sound.
Rafale will carry 500km stealth attack storm shadow or scalp cruise missiles.
And you want aa guns
The guns aren't against the SU's or the Rafale's. These are Close in Weapon Systems.....similar to the ship defense systems. Believe it or not, these are EXTREMELY effective against cruise and other missiles, stand off munitions, low flying objects and UAV's.
If you think India will take a chance to put 200 of their SU's or the Rafale's at risk, you are crazy.
Losing 50 SU 30's and say 20 Rafale's would have tremendous effect on the reputation, moral and the $$. Majority of these things will happen from stand off distances.
There is a reason as to why the PAF is looking into acquiring multiple short / medium range SAM systems in large numbers and more than likely, they'll soon build one too. The main threat is not from the SU-30'2 or Rafal's or the Jags, its from the munition they would fire and the amount of munitions being fired.
When India can have 100 jets at any time firing weapons towards Pakistan from 20 Miles inside the Indian territory, its as dangerous as if these jets are inside Pakistani airspace (but with much more risk of course).
So if you can destroy munitions before hitting their targets, you've essentially countered the SU-30 and Rafale. If 70% or 80% of the munition don't hit the target....what's left?
The next step is to do aerial bombardment and that would result in losing a big number of SU's and Rafale's....I don't think a power projecting country like India wants to show the world "we destroyed 120 Pakistani jets, but we lost 60 SU-30's and 20 Rafale's in a five day war".
What are you allowing the world to see in this case? That JFT is perhaps better than or equal to the SU-30's or Rafale's? or that F-16's, even block 15 ones, destroyed a few SU's or Rafales in dog fight.....so imagine if Pakistan had 1:1 parity....these "junior" platforms would've produced numbers from the above statement to ....pretty much the same on both sides? That's power humiliation, not power projection.
However, both the nations should work like the European Union and help the humanity in the region. Its the most populous region yet most poor too. Between India, Pakistan, China and Russia.....trillions of trade is possible BY ROAD. Why do you want to be enemies when so much more can be achieved for all humans living there if you can create some peace??
Pakistan has bought LY-80 LOMADS SAM.
The document says 3 units were purchased. Does one unit come with 6 missiles on a TEL / VLT? So it'd be 18 missiles total? That's very little.....can someone explain a bit more please on the quantity?
