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Sir read Quran and Sunnah and follow it because Quran and Sunnah is clear and hijab is the order of ALLAH and HIS PROPHET SAW @ajtr
i wont take your words as gospel untill i come across such instance during my own study of islam.Even though there are people who says like there are different interpretations of quran and hence difficult to understand it.
 
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i wont take your words as gospel untill i come across such instance during my own study of islam.Even though there are people who says like there are different interpretations of quran and hence difficult to understand it.
@ajtr lady only difference of opinion is on weather covering face is farz or not other than everything is agreed by all scholars not one difference that is women has to cover her whole body except her face and hands and clothes should not be see through or very tight or very attractive or resemble Men and or other sex
 
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@Zarvan when i stated looking for the explainations for hijab.I find even muslims being too confused about it.there are many interpretations and everyone takes whatever suits their views like this one.....

"And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, (with their Khimar) and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed." 24:31


God does not wait for a Scholar to put the correct words for Him!

The Arabic word for CHEST, GAYB is in the verse (24:31), but the Arabic words for HEAD, (RAAS) or HAIR, (SHAAR) are NOT in the verse. The commandment in the verse is clear - COVER YOUR CHEST OR BOSOMS, but also the fabrication of the scholars and most of the translators is clear by claiming- cover your head or hair.

The last part of the verse (24:31) translates as, "They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies." The details of the body can be revealed or not revealed by the dress you wear, not by your head cover.

Notice also the expression in 24:31,

"They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary."

This expression may sound vague to many because they have not understood the mercy of God. Again God here used this very general term to give us the freedom to decide according to our own circumstances the definition of "What is necessary".

It is not up to a scholar or to any particular person to define this term. God wants to leave it personal for every woman and no one can take it away from her. Women who follow the basic rule number one i.e. righteousness, will have no problem making the right decision to reveal only which is necessary.

The word "zeenatahunna" in this verse refers to the woman's body parts (beauty) that can be exaggerated by the movement of the body while walking and not to the artificial ornaments and decorations as some people interpret it or translate it. At the end of the verse, God told the women not to strike with their feet to show their "zeenatahunna." Striking the feet while walking can emphasize , exaggerate or shake certain parts of the body that do not need to be emphasized. It is important to remember that striking the feet while walking does not have this effect on the head, hair or face, they are not part of what God calls in this verse the hidden zeena.

Accepting orders from anybody but God, means idol-worship. That is how serious the matter of Hijab/khimar is. Women who wear Hijab because of tradition or because they like it for personal reasons commit no sin, as long as they know that it is not part of this perfect religion. Those who are wearing it because they think God ordered it are committing Idol-worship, as God did not order it, the scholars did. These women have found for themselves another god than the One who revealed the Quran, complete, perfect and FULLY detailed to tell them they have to cover their heads to be Muslims.

THE WORD "HIJAB" in the QURAN

"Hijab" is the term used by many Muslims women to describe their head cover that may or may not include covering their face except their eyes, and sometimes covering also one eye. The Arabic word "Hijab" can be translated into veil or yashmak. Other meanings for the word "Hijab" include, screen, cover(ing), mantle, curtain, drapes, partition, division, divider.

Can we find the word "Hijab" in the Quran??

The word "Hijab" appeared in the Quran 7 times, five of them as "Hijab" and two times as "Hijaban," these are 7:46, 33:53, 38:32, 41:5, 42:51, 17:45 & 19:17.

None of these "Hijab" words are used in the Quran in reference to what the traditional Muslims call today (Hijab) as a dress code for the Muslim woman.

God knows that generations after Muhammed's death the Muslims will use the word "Hijab" to invent a dress code that He never authorized. God used the word "Hijab" ahead of them just as He used the word "Hadith" ahead of them.
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Khimar" is an Arabic word that means, cover, any cover, a curtain is a Khimar, a dress is a Khimar, a table cloth that covers the top of a table is a Khimar, a blanket can be used as a Khimar..etc. The word KHAMRA used for intoxicant in Arabic has the same root with Khimar, because both covers, the Khimar covers (a window, a body, a table . . . etc.) while KHAMRA covers the state of mind. Most of the translators, obviously influenced by Hadith (fabrications) translate the word as VEIL and thus mislead most people to believe that this verse is advocating the covering of the head.

In 24:31 God is asking the women to use their cover (khimar)( being a dress, a coat, a shawl, a shirt, a blouse, a tie, a scarf . . . etc.) to cover their bosoms, not their heads or their hairs. If God so willed to order the women to cover their heads or their hair, nothing would have prevented Him from doing so. GOD does not run out of words. GOD does not forget. God did not order the women to cover their heads or their hair.

I'm just like pre-school kid so let me leave it to you to give me some points to ponder wrt to above explanation.
 
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@Zarvan when i stated looking for the explainations for hijab.I find even muslims being too confused about it.there are many interpretations and everyone takes whatever suits their views like this one.....



I'm just like pre-school kid so let me leave it to you to give me some points to ponder wrt to above explanation.
@ajtr lady their are only two interpretations one says that women have to cover her face to and other says covering face is not compulsory it is preferred other that everything is agreed that women have to cover her whole body except her face and hands and also fulfill requirements that is clothes not being tight or see through or attractive or resemble men or women
 
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The Question of Hijab: Suppression Or Liberation?

"Why do Muslim women have to cover their heads?" This question is one which is asked by Muslim and non-Muslim alike. For many women it is the truest test of being a Muslim.

The answer to the question is very simple - Muslim women observe HIJAB (covering the head and the body) because Allah has told them to do so.

"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed..." [Noble Quran 33:59]

Other secondary reasons include the requirement for modesty in both men and women. Both will then be evaluated for intelligence and skills instead of looks and sexuality. An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, "We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks." A Muslim woman who covers her head is making a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Many Muslim women who cover are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as a Muslim woman. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out.

The question of Hijab for Muslim women has been a controversy for centuries and will probably continue for many more. Some learned people do not consider the subject open to discussion and consider that covering the face is required, while a majority are of the opinion that it is not required. A middle line position is taken by some who claim that the instructions are vague and open to individual discretion depending on the situation. The wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were required to cover their faces so that men would not think of them in sexual terms since they were the "Mothers of the Believers," but this requirement was not extended to other women.

The word "Hijab" comes from the Arabic word "hajaba" meaning to hide from view or conceal. In the present time, the context of Hijab is the modest covering of a Muslim woman. The question now is what is the extent of the covering? The Quran says:

"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." [Noble Quran 24:30-31]

These verses from the Quran contain two main injunctions:

A woman should not show her beauty or adornments except what appears by uncontrolled factors such as the wind blowing her clothes, and

the head covers should be drawn so as to cover the hair, the neck and the bosom.

Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met. The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered. Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Quran, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind. The following is a Tradition of the Prophet:

"Ayshah reported that Asma' the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma'! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not properthat anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to theface and hands." [Abu Dawud]

The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary. Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) stated that in later generations of his Ummah there would be

"women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed." [Muslim]

Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman. In addition there are other requirements:

Women must not dress so as to appear as men.

"Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.'" [Bukhari]

Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.

The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.

Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to Hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear Hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life. Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being. The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.

For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner.

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The Obligatory Conditions For An Islamic Hijab

1. Covering ALL Of The Body

It is an agreed position by many respected scholars that the face and hands of the woman must be covered. Some scholars say it is permissible to uncover the face and the hands of the woman as long as there is no fitnah (infatuation) caused by this action. Two things must be taken into consideration

If she is beautiful and beautifies her face and hands with external substances, or

The society around her is corrupt where men do not lower their gaze, then it is prohibited for her to uncover her face and hands.

On the authority of the wife of the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), Umm Salamah said:

"When the verse was revealed that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies' was revealed, the women of Ansar came out as if they had crows over their heads by wearing outer garments.

2. The hijab must not be a display

The hijab itself must not be a display. Allah ordained it so as to cover the beauty of women and not for showing off. Allah says:

"And not show of their adornment except only that which is apparent." [Noble Quran 24:31].

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"And stay in your houses and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance." [Noble Quran 33:33].

It is in no way logical that the hijab itself be a source of display.

3. The hijab must not be transparent

The purpose of wearing hijab must be achieved. In order for the hijab to be a cover, it must not be made of transparent material making the woman covered only by name, while in reality she is naked. The prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is quoted as saying:

"In the latest part of my Ummah (nation of Muslims) there shall be women who would be naked in spite of being dressed, they have their hair high like the humps of the Bukht camel, curse them, for they are cursed. They will not enter Al-Jannah and would not even perceive its odor, although it's fragrance can be perceived from a distance of 500 years traveling by camel"

This indicates that a woman could cause herself a grave and destructive sin if she puts on a garment that is thin and transparent and which clearly shapes her body's features.

4. Hijab must be roomy, and not tight.

The hijab is a safeguard against fitnah. If it is tight, it will be descriptive of the woman's body and this violates and defeats the whole purpose of hijab.

5. The hijab must not be perfumed

On the authority of Ad-Diya' Al-Maqdisi, the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:

"Any woman who perfumes herself and passes by some people that they smell her scent, then she is a Zaniyah (adulteress)."

6. The hijab shouldn't resemble the dress of a man

Imam Ahmed, an-Nasa'i reported the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to have said:

"Women who assume the manners of men are not from us and also those of men who assume the manners of women."

Abu Hurairah narrated that: "The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) CURSED the man who wears the dress of a woman and the woman who wears the dress of a man."

7. The hijab must not resemble the garments of the Kuffar

Abu Dawud and Ahmed have related the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:

"The one who take the similitude (manner) of a certain people, then he/she becomes one of them."

Abdullah bin Umar said: "The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) saw me wearing two garments dyed in saffron (orange), whereupon he said: these are the clothes (usually worn) by the Kuffar, so do not wear them."

8. The hijab should not be for fame

Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah have related the prophet to saying:

"The one who wears a garment designed for a worldly fame, Allah will make them wear a garment of humility on the Day Of Resurrection then he will be set ablaze."

The garment of fame is any garment a person wears to make themselves look famous. This applies whether the garment is highly precious and shows admiration to the life of this world or if it is chosen of a low quality to show lack of interest to this worldly life. The person may put on clothes with distinct colors so as to draw attention, act proudly and/or arrogantly.

9. Concealed ways of display

Examining the various conditions about the hijab one can clearly recognize that many of the young Muslim women are not fulfilling these conditions. Many just take "half-way" measures, which not only mocks the community in which she lives, but also mocks the commands of Allah. They consider what they put on now wrongly as "hijab" So, O Muslims, be mindful to Allah and His Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and do not deceived by those who "bless" this action of yours and conceal their true intentions. Do not be deceived, and there is no excuse to follow the evil.

If you are sincere in achieving Al-Jannah, then be mindful of these things, insha'Allah
 
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Sir their are requirements like clothes should not be tight or see through or too attractive or resemble non Muslims or opposite sex if these requirements are being filled than you can have duppata but these days most clothes are not fulfilling these things that is why better to wear Hijab

So it goes from 'Hijab is compulsory' to 'its better to wear Hijab' ! :blink:

Maulana Zaravan
....I think the KFC is getting to your head ! :rofl:
 
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So it goes from 'Hijab is compulsory' to 'its better to wear Hijab' ! :blink:

Maulana Zaravan
....I think the KFC is getting to your head ! :rofl:
I am saying referring to that black or some other co lour Abaya type thing covering the parts of body which ALLAH have ordered for women is compulsory on her and also fill the requirements which HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW have told
 
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@ajtr lady only difference of opinion is on weather covering face is farz or not other than everything is agreed by all scholars not one difference that is women has to cover her whole body except her face and hands and clothes should not be see through or very tight or very attractive or resemble Men and or other sex
so why do you insist on hijab ? some reasons can you give.Do you think if women dont wear burqa then they tend to tempt men folks? if this is the case then @Zarvan do you yourself practice the command in quran where it says that men should lower their gaze in presence of women.If men lower their gaze their is no need for hijab etc.If by accident you cant then i better suggest this for men.


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so why do you insist on hijab ? some reasons can you give.Do you think if women dont wear burqa then they tend to tempt men folks? if this is the case then @Zarvan do you yourself practice the command in quran where it says that men should lower their gaze in presence of women.If men lower their gaze their is no need for hijab etc.If by accident you cant then i better suggest this for men.


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@ajtr lady even if a all men lower their gaze still women will have to wear Hijab in front of Na Mehram Men because that is made compulsory on them by ALLAH you can't make excuses to run away from this order Sir you have to do it at every cost
 
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Wese ye Crocodile ribs halal hain ya haram?? mere khayal se haram hai lekin roasted toad se khayal aaya bear grylls ka name suna hai? woh kuch b hi kha jae ga!
 
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I am saying referring to that black or some other co lour Abaya type thing covering the parts of body which ALLAH have ordered for women is compulsory on her and also fill the requirements which HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW have told

Mereii bhai neither the word 'Hijab', nor the word 'Abaya' nor the commands 'compulsory' or 'enforcement' are used in any of the quotes you mentioned; I'm afraid at the end of the day its your interpretation of those verses ! I'd say the way most women in Pakistan dress up - dupata & shalwar kameez fulfills that quite properly ! Even in the case where Western styled attire is used, as long as the dressing is both modest & not revealing (poncho, jeans, long shirts) I'd say it sounds alright !
 
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so why do you insist on hijab ? some reasons can you give.Do you think if women dont wear burqa then they tend to tempt men folks? if this is the case then @Zarvan do you yourself practice the command in quran where it says that men should lower their gaze in presence of women.If men lower their gaze their is no need for hijab etc.If by accident you cant then i better suggest this for men.


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Behan, Mr.Ajtr pe tarasss aaa rahaa hai ! Hamaraa hataa kataaa no-jawan thaaa iss bichareiii ko blinders penhaa diyeeee aur uppper see aaap ki post kardaa photograph seh laggg rahaa hai keh innn kaa runnng bhii kuch uraaa uraaa hai ! :blink:

I know Pashtuns have high cheekbones but I never meant that they look like horses ! It appears Mr.Ajtr (the handsome guy in the photograph above) is the exception to the rule :rofl:
 
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Mereii bhai neither the word 'Hijab', nor the word 'Abaya' nor the commands 'compulsory' or 'enforcement' are used in any of the quotes you mentioned; I'm afraid at the end of the day its your interpretation of those verses ! I'd say the way most women in Pakistan dress up - dupata & shalwar kameez fulfills that quite properly ! Even in the case where Western styled attire is used, as long as the dressing is both modest & not revealing (poncho, jeans, long shirts) I'd say it sounds alright !
When I said wearing that thing is compulsory women have to cover her body with the except of face and hands if cover face than that is better agreed by all Ulema what I am saying is Shalwar Kameez of today is fare more attractive than before and also many times really see through Abaya pretty much solve these problems that is most women are now preferring to wear Abaya even in abaya lot of styles have come even now designer Abayas are available
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