Naswar Corner

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger

The shepherd psalm is THE christian hymn. It is drawn exclusively from Pslam 23 ( Book of psalms ) which goes like this :

Psalm 23
King James Version (KJV)
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

That is marvelous!

 

[haviZsultan]

@haviZsultan Yea kitties do that! They bring home toys and gifts! I recall we had our cat in the house when she gave birth to 2 kittens and they grew up in the house until they were 1 mth then kitty pooped in our laundry and mom showed her the door to the outside world...

The 2 kittens refused to step on the drive way and would run back into the house to enjoy airconditioning apparently the cement was too hot for their paws! They walked funny because they were used to tiles! And they stayed in the porch for a good 2 days refusing to get in the dirt! we were really at them!

Same thing with mine too btw. At first they were skittish about this novel concept of going out. They usually allow you to touch them when they are inside but when they are outside they just run. But they like it a lot trust me. But they just get over-excited. Don't ask me how many times they have climbed trees and become stuck there and it was not the tree right in front of our house, we had to search like crazy until 15 minutes away from our house we heard, Meow, meow, meow. lol.

 

[Armstrong]

Same thing with mine too btw. At first they were skittish about this novel concept of going out. They usually allow you to touch them when they are inside but when they are outside they just run. But they like it a lot trust me. But they just get over-excited. Don't ask me how many times they have climbed trees and become stuck there and it was not the tree right in front of our house, we had to search like crazy until 15 minutes away from our house we heard, Meow, meow, meow. lol.

Havi yaraa hows the health ? Dude, what exactly is wrong with the stomach ? My Dad is a gastroenterologist maybe I can ask him something if you'd want me to ?

 

[haviZsultan]

I was expecting a long essay a long essay, but congrats.
You dont "choose" your identity, you are what you are actually. You dont choose to be pakistani, you are born Pakistani. You dont choose patriotism, it comes naturally, like love you can not chose it . My question was actually related to your claim that i might be Afghanistan citizen, you are confused about yourself but also about me whether i am an afghan national or Pakistani, its funny.
Dont tell me you are dual nationality canada/pakistan? the journey of your identity crisis might have started in canada.

I was saying yesterday I REJECT Canadian citizenship. Luffy I get angry and I go on a tirade against Afghanistan but any person whether an MQM thug showing loyalty to Pakistan or someone like you showing loyalty to Afghanistan is for me a murder of my ancestors blood for Pakistan.

In Canada there were Pakistanis who called Pakistan a cult and bullshit country. Then there are those who love it. There is a choice. There is one even for you. This motherland needs to be fixed, Pashtun culture and traditions make it rich and give us very strong history. You should work for it rather than supporting afghanistan.

Also I saw a comment by abbasina afghan and you that was exactly the same. Maybe he was qouting you but qoute didn't work, I don't know. I can't find the comment again so I suspected it was deleted. I suspect you but some people on the other site know you so I give you benefit of the doubt.

You can share whatever happened or if hard times or anything forced you to work for Admin Khan due to some hardship or problems. @Armstrong is a very good person for this. He is a very nice person and will make no issue of it. But if you are working for him you should reveal the truth.

Also there is a good person in you but you have been brainwashed to hate others. Luffy I can actually help you even. We should work to eliminate FCR, institutionalize Lashkars and Jirga system, find a system for election of Maliks. These are things Pashtuns can do but so called Pashtun Nationalists have no wish to fix issues. They just want to bash others.

 

[Mani2020]

@Talon bas phr tau urdu aur punjabi ka janaza e nikalta hoga

 

[Mani2020]

Oh bhai @Armstrong subha subha kya kr rahay ho yahan tmhe nend nahi ati

 

[haviZsultan]

Havi yaraa hows the health ? Dude, what exactly is wrong with the stomach ? My Dad is a gastroenterologist maybe I can ask him something if you'd want me to ?

Thanks for the offer. I think the issue may be permanent. There's bacteria, vomiting at times too... long story. I will deal with it and want it to be fixed but... anyway whats up. And leave the entologist and all alone. Will deal with my own issues. Thats why I am writing the book-get sales, royalties maybe I can change the flopped fortunes.

Otherwise I just wanted it to be like that, just for Pashtuns to read and appreciate.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I was saying yesterday I REJECT Canadian citizenship. Luffy I get angry and I go on a tirade against Afghanistan but any person whether an MQM thug showing loyalty to Pakistan or someone like you showing loyalty to Afghanistan is for me a murder of my ancestors blood for Pakistan.

In Canada there were Pakistanis who called Pakistan a cult and bullshit country. Then there are those who love it. There is a choice. There is one even for you. This motherland needs to be fixed, Pashtun culture and traditions make it rich and give us very strong history. You should work for it rather than supporting afghanistan.

Also I saw a comment by abbasina afghan and you that was exactly the same. Maybe he was qouting you but qoute didn't work, I don't know. I can't find the comment again so I suspected it was deleted. I suspect you but some people on the other site know you so I give you benefit of the doubt.

You can share whatever happened or if hard times or anything forced you to work for Admin Khan due to some hardship or problems. @Armstrong is a very good person for this. He is a very nice person and will make no issue of it. But if you are working for him you should reveal the truth.

Also there is a good person in you but you have been brainwashed to hate others. Luffy I can actually help you even. We should work to eliminate FCR, institutionalize Lashkars and Jirga system, find a system for election of Maliks. These are things Pashtuns can do but so called Pashtun Nationalists have no wish to fix issues. They just want to bash others.

You are newcomer to Pakistan, take your time. You would soon realize that things related to Afghanistan are of very tertiary importance, there are bigger things that need to be sorted out in Pakistan. For you afghans might be those mommy daddy type who you saw in canada, whose stomachs are filled with burgers, who insulted you. But for me Afghans are those poor hardworking refugees that i see on daily basis. I simply cant hate an entire community whether they are afghans or indians, you should'nt tie your patriotism with hating indians or afghans. I used to do so when i was young and immature, but i have realized that it is stupid.
If you are angry at e-afghans and want to take revenge from them on this forum , then drop it. You are contradicting your own message of your book "badal , the thirst for vengeance", the way i see it, you are obsessed with badal from me and afghans/afghanistan. I have noted that You dont forget and forgive those, who goes against your views...you keep "keena" in your heart...why? I would give you example, you were frequently quoting taimi khan, then stop doing it when he refused your info on waziristan , said some thing like "then correct your book", i feel he is no more in your good books because of very small disagreement.

 

[haviZsultan]

You are newcomer to Pakistan, take your time. You would soon realize that things related to Afghanistan are of very tertiary importance, there are bigger things that need to be sorted out in Pakistan.

For you afghans might be those mommy daddy type who you saw in canada, whose stomachs are filled with burgers, who insulted you. But for me Afghans are those poor hardworking refugees that i see on daily basis. I simply cant hate an entire community whether they are afghans or indians, you should'nt tie your patriotism with hating indians or afghans. I used to do so when i was young and immature, but i have realized that it is stupid.

I neither hate the Indians nor the Afghans. I am vary of them. If you will support Afghanistan over Pakistan people may insult it to attack you or get angry at Afghanistan for no reason-for this I apologize to @Sher Malang but he should admit those Afghan nationals are saying very rude things about Pakistan and disrespect our country severely. You should also stop backing him because one of the reasons I dropped the term Muhajir as an identity was because of the support for Altaf's partition speech. You have not seen how scathingly I attack MQM supporters. Hate is a strong term but as I said still maintaining loyalty to my family someone who calls my family's struggle for Pakistan a mistake is someone I can barely respect.

In this I cannot forgive someone. I was being harsh on you as you were better than some people there so I am saying this more calmly without jesting or mocking in the middle though in Naswar corner I have that right.

Also you do not know our history. I told you about how we suspect Pashtun links and even gave you evidence of Mughals marrying Pashtuns while I have told you before Aurungzeb awarded us land in Oudh and from barabanki when we came to lucknow we were awarded land by the governor too upon his order. So now you even know the princess's tale largely and the hypothesis that goes behind it. However you do not know what happened to a lot of us back there. In this I would be totally justified to hate India rather than Afghanistan with which on the family level at least I have no link. The link I have is on a personal level as I have adopted Pashtun identity and they believe I have no right to do so and brainwash my countrymen like you whose job is to be useful citizens.

If you are angry at e-afghans and want to take revenge from them on this forum , then drop it. You are contradicting your own message of your book "badal , the thirst for vengeance", the way i see it, you are obsessed with badal from me and afghans/afghanistan. I have noted that You dont forget and forgive those, who goes against your views...you keep "keena" in your heart...why

I am highly emotional and get enraged very quickly. In that I am a born Pashtun. From childhood, when I spoke urdu it seemed I was speaking like a Pathan and some people made fun and said tumhey urdu wurdu aati nahi hai. Hence there are a number of things that solidified in my mind the past links. Perhaps I have a quick temper too. In any case you did not apologize for insulting my family not once but twice second time with a bunch of Indians so I will not either... furthermore this defense of Afghanistan annoys me so I cannot guarantee or assure you of any support if you are going to defend them.

As far as Badal is concerned it will be an explanation of how Badal as a concept was breaking down in Pashtun areas very very slowly. But the war on terror and atrocities committed have given new vigor to it. The only way to stop the cycle is to stop taking revenge. There are many discussions on badal in the book but not all of them discuss it as a negative light. Though of course in modern day there should be an institution that ensures badal rather than an individual. In old days badal made us Pashtuns strong. I was trying to explain this to you but you got angry. Pakistan must institutionalize Pashtun culture and make it a part of the fabric.

? I would give you example, you were frequently quoting taimi khan, then stop doing it when he refused your info on waziristan , said some thing like "then correct your book", i feel he is no more in your good books because of very small disagreement.

Is this a joke? I feel like making a joke at this one of many scandalous allegations aimed to create discord but I will not. Taimi Khan, I corrected in the reply. You can't keep going everywhere to create fights. Taimi Khan is a brother. Also I called him to places but he refused to be part of the discussion. So I refused to tag him any further. Also most Pashtuns do feel I am a little confused. I haven't yet dropped links with family (Ansaris and fathers side) so they don't understand either or most don't take ethnicity so seriously.

Also about anything you say in a debate it will be countered. You have not met me. People can't speak when I am around. I just give figures and facts and they have nothing before it. I memorize all this stuff. There is no arguing with me. You can disagree but you can't face me in debate. It is best if you remember this. I can be an asset for Pashtuns though you fail to see it but an Afghan sympathizer like you attacking my views and being stuck on my background-with your intolerance towards Jinnah and my people you can turn me into one of the worst opponents. It is your choice whether a so-called Pashtun nationalist will use my potential or he will deny it. I can see in your attitudes you how you guys lost Hazara division. Daily fights in Hazara university between Pashtuns and Hindkowans now. Hazaras deeply respected Pashtuns and even called themselves that.

 

[Sher Malang]

@haviZsultan, I never supported anyone of them there... in fact I left that place long ago because of the same thing that hurt you! since day one I am supporting those who could bring positive change in Afghan Pakistan relations... if they are insulting someone they are actually showing their own character you as a knowledgeable person should not counter them with the same arguments... rest is all cool dude!

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Havi i am not your grandpa but still i would give you an advice. Dont let this online foruming grow on you, it might affect your real life.
@ and your idea of institutionalization of pashtunwali, jirga? Well it is already integrated into fabric of Pakistani system. Pashtunwali is not parallel or opposite to pakistani law, it is code of pashtuns which exists and thrive in its own dimension. There is proper law and judicial system in KPK, it is not lawless, you are answerable to law. People resolve their land disputes or other local issues on local level. If they are unable to reach to a decision, then the issue is taken to court. Local defence and security parties, like chagha or offensive lashkars against terrorists usually have full support of governament authorities. In Inter-tribal disputes goverment acts as neutral party to mediate.
Police dont interfere in local customs, forexample i have right to shoot and kill a thief into my house at the night. I wont be arrested for murder. In villages the male of the house keep his gun near his sleeping place. You wonder why so harsh on thief? If you have studied pashtuns then you should know better.

 

[Rafael]

Aagaz hua hai ulfat ka ab dekhiye kya-kya hota hai.
Saari umar ki rahat hai ya saari umar ka rona hai

 

[Dubious]

@Talon bas phr tau urdu aur punjabi ka janaza e nikalta hoga

@Mani2020 its called Gulabi Urdu with a twist!

 

[A.Rafay]

Hello naswarians!

 

[Dubious]

Hi @A.Rafay

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