Marwat Khan Lodhi
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So who could be this pashtun princess of havi sultan?
He should write a book on it.
He should write a book on it.
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What Pashtun Princess ?
I thought that the Afghans of ages past were a bunch of raiders & mercenaries; hardly a exquisitely developed civilization to speak of ! I've always understood the Pashtuns (Afghans) as the Mongols of the East; disjointed & warring amongst themselves killing all & sundry in an incessant cycle of blood feuds !
Then a leader was born - Ahmed Shah Abdali who galvanized them into One Nation unlike any other Pashtun Chieftain had been able to in the past but like Genghis Khan his posterity or his Nation couldn't live up to his vision & fell back into petty feuding & raiding !
Yeah something like that; we never had much of a warring tradition on the East of Indus ! I suppose when you've got ample food, are at the cross roads of a couple of major trading routes & have an inclusive society you're not that much into fighting & killing !
Wrong. Read history of your rajputs, jats, sials, awans etc, they were always ready for wars. Hindostan was never peaceful, always engaged in inter-state wars.
The more things changed the more they stayed the same huh. BTW how could they be mongols of the east when the mongols are the mongols of the east?
Yeah something like that; we never had much of a warring tradition on the East of Indus ! I suppose when you've got ample food, are at the cross roads of a couple of major trading routes & have an inclusive society you're not that much into fighting & killing !
Rajputs?? Marathis?? You Kashmiris just got lazy is all, nothing to be ashamed of. For a long time Afghans were sheeps of the Persian Empires. Today Afghans are sheep of Pakistan's military establishment.
So who could be this pashtun princess of havi sultan?
He should write a book on it.
I know but tis also true that these areas have welcomed almost every Invader that came from the West whether it were the Ghauris, the Mughals, the Persians or the Afghans - all of them ! Didn't even put up a half-arsed fight.
Ooppps !
Marathas were from the South of India - that has nothing to do with me !
The Kashmiris were a sorry arsed bunch of fair skinned MOFOs who could cook & paint well ! The Punjabis were only just a shade better. The Sindhis - Dunno if they were any good either ! And the Baluch - Dunno much about them to be honest.
Rajputs?? Marathis?? You Kashmiris just got lazy is all, nothing to be ashamed of. For a long time Afghans were sheeps of the Persian Empires. Today Afghans are sheep of Pakistan's military establishment.
East of the Indus though so they too are warlike ergo proving your statement wrong. IDK about Kashmiris, it may have been the affects of the valley which calmed you guys down but us Punjabis never had a problem fighting. The only thing us Punjabis did wrong which still bites us today is being to open to others and never trying to rise up ourselves. We had no problem with who ran the throne of Delhi as long as they didn't bother us and never sought it for ourselves. The Sikhs of course were the exception however it was not power but revenge and hatred towards the Muslim rulers which caused our Sikh brethren to form their own empire.
Yes pashtuns of nowadays are sheeps of punjabis, i agree with you. But hill tribes of pashtuns in old times were never bothered by any invaders, infact hill tribes used to harass passing armies towards hindostan, unless they pay them some fee.
Its simple, punjab is a plain area, you cant put up much defence in open wide fields. Pashtuns were living in mountains, so they were safe and also daring.
though kashmiris also live in mountains, but they are genuine sheeps lol
No Afghans are sheeps of Pakistanis, Pashtuns are brother to Punjabis. Go to Punjab our people will welcome you with open arms but I doubt Punjabis would be received the same in Pashtun areas. You are right about the open plains and mountains though. It is because they were in that beautiful valley made them soft lol.
East of the Indus though so they too are warlike ergo proving your statement wrong. IDK about Kashmiris, it may have been the affects of the valley which calmed you guys down but us Punjabis never had a problem fighting. The only thing us Punjabis did wrong which still bites us today is being to open to others and never trying to rise up ourselves. We had no problem with who ran the throne of Delhi as long as they didn't bother us and never sought it for ourselves. The Sikhs of course were the exception however it was not power but revenge and hatred towards the Muslim rulers which caused our Sikh brethren to form their own empire.
More precisely talibans are your sheeps.
Unlike on internet, real life Punjabi-pashtun relationships are very friendly and warm-hearted. I have some wonderful punjabi friends. And
Our areas are imagined "no go areas" by you people but you would be surprised that there are many punjabis settled in our towns. Unlike balochs we are not allergic to settlers, but outsiders are afraid to come because of gun culture and all that. Otherwise hospitality is part of imaan of our culture.