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NA 125 rigging proved.

WTH ....20 % fake votes :o::o: ..........u cant say its rigging ............its pre-planned election .........RIP Democracy:angry:
 
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I am super confused. Are you saying that no one thought that there wouldn't be bogus votes? No, that wasn't the issue. EVERYONE and their dog knows there are ALWAYS some problems with votes, specially in countries like Pakistan. If you were to believe that some votes didn't have questionable authentication, AND you live in Pakistan, I am sorry, but I don't know what to call you.

The reason you've seen my posts and all, have NOTHING to do with the votes. It is against the IK's violent stance that separates Pakistan, gets people killed and pushes Pakistan behind.
If he was to choose the right way to go about it, without getting innocents killed, people's lives disrupted and violence with economic destruction, I would have NEVER written ONE post about it. However, his violent and anti-Pakistani stance is what I am against. And so are a few other people. I've said it repeatedly and you guys doing propaganda don't wan to read it, it doesn't matter to me whether IK or NS is in power. If you have issues, go to the Parliament. Protest INSIDE the Parliament, don't get people killed. Don't take money from other nations and nationalists to separate Pakistan to build a Pashtnistan. That's what I am against!
The authentication was supposed to happen via Magnetic ink. We all saw how that was sabotaged and thrown out the window.
my posts and all, have NOTHING to do with the votes.
Oh really? Your posts have had everything to do with the votes. Did you not say that PMLN won fairly? Did you not say that Imran Khan is lying about the rigging? You did, which means you talked about the votes. Don't run from it like that.
If he was to choose the right way to go about it, without getting innocents killed, people's lives disrupted and violence with economic destruction, I would have NEVER written ONE post about it.
The fact that you wrote posts about it on Jul 26, 2014, months before the protest or violence, in this thread, calling IK a liar and drunk and saying that the elections were fair shows that this statement is a lie.

And what right way would you chose? What exactly is this 'right way'? Parliament? Tried to no avail. Judiciary? Tried to no avail. The result was orders followed by stay orders for the same orders. Election Commission? Tried to no avail. Then what should someone do in this case? Lick NS's feet? Protest is a democratic right. PTI's protest has been peaceful - the only time there was violence was when PMLN used it.

You condemn PTI for violence and getting people killed yet when fourteen people were murdered in Model town you didn't say anything to condemn the perpetrators, instead you blamed the victims by bringing up some BS about how they were 'instigated' first.

Don't take money from other nations and nationalists to separate Pakistan to build a Pashtnistan.
You condemn us (PTI supporters) for believing in conspiracy theories (which, incidentally, are being proven true), while you yourself throw around completely baseless garbage like this.
The height of hypocrisy.
 
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@Jzaib and @Leader

tell me this
my question to PTI
why you guys are so naive and utterly stupid
do you think this Noora league will leave any evidence that can implicate it? when it has the administration and judiciary under its foot then wont it destroy the ballots? there might be flooding or mysterious fire? or best of all... ALL ballots might contain votes ONLY and ONLY casted to Nawaz league?

you guys are babies , kids thinking Nawaz will play fair? Noora league will ban access to the real votes.. they might be sunk in the Ravi already. you guys are beating the bush.

or maybe I am over reacting and stating something impossible,

well I am sorry
how about this

even if a miracle happens and all the evidence is intact and indeed as per sample 27000 votes are found to be fake, duplicate or wrong then what? who will have the authority to take action?

FYI, the national assembly speaker has already filed defamation and contempt of court case against the judge that ordered the opening of ballot boxes and recounting of his votes

Saad Rafq, Khaja Asif, Talal CH, Pervaiz Rashid, Mushahid Ullah and Abid Sherali will all mock you in the end when the recounting will show that 200% votes were casted to Nawaz league.

@taimur12 Could I ask you what you think of this post by Irfan Baloch? Do you agree that PTI supporters are being naive and stupid in thinking that their attempt to get rigging investigated will lead to any results?
Thank you!
 
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The authentication was supposed to happen via Magnetic ink. We all saw how that was sabotaged and thrown out the window.

Oh really? Your posts have had everything to do with the votes. Did you not say that PMLN won fairly? Did you not say that Imran Khan is lying about the rigging? You did, which means you talked about the votes. Don't run from it like that.

The fact that you wrote posts about it on Jul 26, 2014, months before the protest or violence, in this thread, calling IK a liar and drunk and saying that the elections were fair shows that this statement is a lie.

You condemn us (PTI supporters) for believing in conspiracy theories
(which, incidentally, are being proven true), while you yourself throw around completely baseless garbage like this.
The height of hypocrisy.

Well the height of hypocrisy comes from your post or may be the height of illogical, on purpose brain shut down at the least. Let's review what I've written (which just LIKE your Greed-er for power, you'll twist and turn in the way you want and try to prove it true, like the entire campaign).

1) The "authentication with magnetic ink", I like the idea but you and I BOTH know that there will be some margin of error, corruption and all. SPECIALLY in Pakistan. There is NO such thing as a Corruption Free Society. Its a part of some books and it doesn't exist.
Let me tell you how this process works (and of course, show you the logic and statistics behind this). But, the issue with votes, is that even with the margin of error that exists ACROSS the world. You have to see how big the margin is. For example, if there were total votes like 1000, and out of which, 5 or 10% (as defined by any election commission), were inaccurate, corrupted or questionable, that's a part of the situation. However, if 40% of those votes were bogus, well, the election was rigged as the margin of error would actually turn the poll in ONE party's favor. So, obviously, the person losing this should request for a recount, investigation and then a reelection if the margin of error far exceeds the normal threshold.
I have YET to see ANYONE of you actually talk about it. I've not seen IK having this knowledge either. So....when you don't know how the process works, how do you go about claiming rigging? Everything in this world requires a margin of error, within which, you don't offset any result seriously. And that's acceptable, beyond the threshold, it is abnormal and produces wrong results. So, where did IK say, based on election commissions criteria, the X is considered normal, Y is "rigging"??? To him, without knowing the process, everything is rigging!! And what if, you take out the questionable votes and IK's opponents still win by a large margin????

2) I don't favor PMLN or any other crap in Pakistani politics. I've personally drank with IK and seen a lot as to what he does. I know Zardari and his British women, I also know Musharraff's lust for Ashwria Rao when she was made a "State Guest of Pakistan" for a week and then he used to go meet her in Dubai. So TRUST ME, there is a LOT that I know. I also know NS and his team were just as corrupted as IK and Zardari back in 90's. I ALSO know that since they came in for the past 2 years, they've not done ANY big corruption as every project is audited by multiple entities internationally to keep their name clean.

Now to PMLN's winning. NO, I never said they won right or wrong. I HAVE said, that they won, they had the majority of the votes. If you take out 4 or 20 seats that IK claims, the NS team STILL runs the government. SO.....the answer to any false hood isn't to bring down the entire system through violence. The answer is to bring the corrupted to justice BUT let the others run their term. Whoever won (from the mere 4 or 20 seats), should be sent to jail and then the reelection should happen ON THOSE seats only. That is where you and your IK instead want to blood bath the country through violence and that's simply not acceptable.

When you have a conspiracy theory that says "we may have 4 (or 20 seats) wrongfully won. Instead of getting these corrected, we want the prime minister and the government to resign and then re-election happen or else we'll attack the parliament and shut down the country"........you BET others will have an issue with it. Heck, if you read this paragraph yourself three times, I am sure you, yourself will have an issue with this as it is illogical to threaten to use force and bring down a running country.

3) There is no garbage in my post. Unlike your propagande, I've provided some links to Pashtunistan also. There is its anthem, national symbol and even flag and all out there. I've been to many dinners recently where there is international presence. Surprisingly, the Pashtunistan table is "shared" with Afghanistan while the Pakistani table either has some people from the Sindh or Punjab. In almost EVERY conversation about Pakistan, the Pashtun population makes a point how they used to "rule the area" and how they want Afghanistan to become a part of the greater Pashtunistan empire, and that the Punjabis don't treat the Pashtuns right, therefor, the Pastunistan.
When I am seeing and hearing all this, you want me to lie on here and say I've never heard such a thing? Also, your military leadership just asked all law enforcement services to watch Pakistani citizen with duel nationalities coming from the West and the Middle East specially as they've identified serious cash flow from your own dual citizens into these extremists based, separatist organizations. And you want me to just lie on here?

Also, I don't think anyone here disagrees that IK used to drink. Everyone knows his past. Heck, I am a witness, he loved Jack Daniels. In Pakistan, it used to be Black Label Whiskey. I don't know what you expect from me. If I see a Spade, I'll call it a Spade. If we all agree that Zardari, Musharraff, NS and other were corrupt, why not also agree to IK's faults??? Why the hypocrisy on everything when it comes to IK?

Last, my stance AGAIN: The system should NEVER be brought down with violence, force and threats. Pakistan, as a country should never have to suffer because of these protests. Use the Parliament and other peaceful methods to make your point and educate people. If nothing works out, for GOD's sake, don't turn your next generation violent, intolerant (and eventually extremist). When Pakistanis with differences can't live together.....Pashtunistan is born and IK would be the leader of it!
 
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@taimur12 Could I ask you what you think of this post by Irfan Baloch? Do you agree that PTI supporters are being naive and stupid in thinking that their attempt to get rigging investigated will lead to any results?
Thank you!
Personally i don't believe it will lead to any immediate results. The rigging will be proven and exposed, to some extent, adding to the public's resentment of the corrupt leeches sitting in parliament. The PTI's protest may die down, or perhaps it would eventually be extinguished by the status quo parties, but Nawaz Sharif's days are numbered. He and politicians like him won't last long with the level of awareness spreading in Pakistan now.

Eventually, either PTI or a similar new party will end up in power in Pakistan (peacefully), and hopefully they'll put the country on the right track. Or, we'll have another period of violence and/or Army rule. That is less likely to happen because of how smart and effective Raheel Sharif (the COAS) is. He didn't take NS down when he had the chance, and I'm sure he had his reasons for that - doesn't mean he likes or supports NS, just that he thought stabilizing the country was a higher priority for now.

It's hard to predict what exactly will happen because of the amount of variables involved but It is safe to say that NS and the likes of Zardari won't last long.
 
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Well the height of hypocrisy comes from your post or may be the height of illogical, on purpose brain shut down at the least. Let's review what I've written (which just LIKE your Greed-er for power, you'll twist and turn in the way you want and try to prove it true, like the entire campaign).
Unlike yours, my label (for you) has solid basis. I haven't twisted anything around. And the entire campaign? It's true and you are lying, like I proved here, here, here, here, here, here and here. And you ran away from all of these arguments.

The "authentication with magnetic ink", I like the idea but you and I BOTH know that there will be some margin of error, corruption and all. SPECIALLY in Pakistan. There is NO such thing as a Corruption Free Society. Its a part of some books and it doesn't exist.
Let me tell you how this process works (and of course, show you the logic and statistics behind this). But, the issue with votes, is that even with the margin of error that exists ACROSS the world. You have to see how big the margin is. For example, if there were total votes like 1000, and out of which, 5 or 10% (as defined by any election commission), were inaccurate, corrupted or questionable, that's a part of the situation. However, if 40% of those votes were bogus, well, the election was rigged as the margin of error would actually turn the poll in ONE party's favor. So, obviously, the person losing this should request for a recount, investigation and then a reelection if the margin of error far exceeds the normal threshold.
I have YET to see ANYONE of you actually talk about it. I've not seen IK having this knowledge either. So....when you don't know how the process works, how do you go about claiming rigging? Everything in this world requires a margin of error, within which, you don't offset any result seriously. And that's acceptable, beyond the threshold, it is abnormal and produces wrong results. So, where did IK say, based on election commissions criteria, the X is considered normal, Y is "rigging"??? To him, without knowing the process, everything is rigging!! And what if, you take out the questionable votes and IK's opponents still win by a large margin????
In this entire rant, all you have basically said is that
1) There is a reasonable margin for error in elections
2) You have never seen us talk about the electoral system.
To answer point number 1, the irregularities in five polling stations in NA-125 (out of 242; based on 2007 report from ECP) were 20% of the votes. This is in addition to the massive irregularities in NA 122, NA 154, NA 128 and basically every other constituency they looked at. In NA 154, the margin is higher than 40%. In NA 128, there are over 10% more votes counted than voters registered, not to mention the huge portion of votes that are bogus.

30%-40% is not an acceptable margin.

And you haven't seen us talk about it? You must be deaf and blind then, because we talk about it all the time.

I've personally drank with IK and seen a lot as to what he does. I know Zardari and his British women, I also know Musharraff's lust for Ashwria Rao when she was made a "State Guest of Pakistan" for a week and then he used to go meet her in Dubai.
How is any of that relevant? Who cares about Musharraf and Asharwaria, that's irrelevant now.
TRUST ME,
Says the guy who lies after every two sentences. I've already established how trustworthy you are, so cut this BS.
there is a LOT that I know
Reading a few gossip articles and propaganda doesn't make you an expert, so stop showing off this worthless 'knowledge'.

I also know NS and his team were just as corrupted as IK and Zardari back in 90's. I ALSO know that since they came in for the past 2 years, they've not done ANY big corruption as every project is audited by multiple entities internationally to keep their name clean.
That is false.
Their laptop scheme had massive irregularities. NAB is still chasing old and ongoing money laundering, tax evasion and plenty of general corruption cases. His industries steal electricity.Then we have the issue of the Raiwind palace and all the money in his family's bank accounts. And that's not even counting the small issues like not paying taxes for billboards.
That's plenty of big corruption right there. Since he's in power its easier for him to hide it, doesn't mean he isn't doing it.
The mystery of Raiwind palace ownership - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
FBR barred from recovering duty from Sharif family mills - thenews.com.pk
LHC moved after accountability court dismisses plea to open cases against Sharifs - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
‘NAB to pursue cases against Sharif, Zardari’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

If you take out 4 or 20 seats that IK claims, the NS team STILL runs the government.
Then why did PMLN oppose an investigation? Why did they hide behind stay orders?
Whoever won (from the mere 4 or 20 seats), should be sent to jail and then the reelection should happen ON THOSE seats only. That is where you and your IK instead want to blood bath the country through violence and that's simply not acceptable.
Imran Khan wanted exactly that, and that is what he demanded for the first fourteen months. He was constantly sidelined, ignored, blocked by stay orders and generally sabotaged. No bloodbath, that is a bullsh!t over-exaggeration you are using to make my argument easier to attack, also known as the strawman fallacy.
When you have a conspiracy theory that says "we may have 4 (or 20 seats) wrongfully won. Instead of getting these corrected, we want the prime minister and the government to resign and then re-election happen or else we'll attack the parliament and shut down the country"........you BET others will have an issue with it. Heck, if you read this paragraph yourself three times, I am sure you, yourself will have an issue with this as it is illogical to threaten to use force and bring down a running country.
More of that strawman bullsh!t. When your perfectly legitimate demands for investigation and electoral reform are constantly blocked and sidelined for fourteen months, you have a right to protest. The only ones causing violence here are PMLN, blocking entire cities with containers and firing on unarmed protesters.
Unlike your propagande
Yes, unlike my 'propagande'. That's because my 'propagande' is backed by facts and the truth, as opposed to your racist garbage.
I've provided some links to Pashtunistan also
Yes, yes , links. Links to one article that doesn't say what you are saying and a wikipedia link that, again, says none of what you're saying.
There is its anthem, national symbol and even flag and all out there.
There are flags, symbols and anthems for a Reptillian Illuminati out there too. Doesn't make it any more real.
In almost EVERY conversation about Pakistan, the Pashtun population makes a point how they used to "rule the area" and how they want Afghanistan to become a part of the greater Pashtunistan empire, and that the Punjabis don't treat the Pashtuns right, therefor, the Pastunistan.
Bull. What every conversation? I've talked to pashtuns about Pakistan dozens of time. Not one of them brought up any Pashtunistan. You are spreading racist propaganda here.
Also, your military leadership just asked all law enforcement services to watch Pakistani citizen with duel nationalities coming from the West and the Middle East specially as they've identified serious cash flow from your own dual citizens into these extremists based, separatist organizations.
Source? Give me as ource that says it is because of some 'pashtunistan'. If it is happening, that's because of the regular Terrorism. Not any pashtunistan. You are using completely unrelated stuff to back your absurd and racist conspiracy theory.
Also, I don't think anyone here disagrees that IK used to drink. Everyone knows his past. Heck, I am a witness, he loved Jack Daniels. In Pakistan, it used to be Black Label Whiskey.
And when did I bring this up? When its about IK you'll gladly bring up his alleged drinking from twenty years ago, but when it is about Nawaz Sharif's millions upon millions dollars worth corruption from twenty years ago, you acknowledge it and then disregard it completely. Hypocrite.
The system should NEVER be brought down with violence, force and threats.
Protesting is a democratic right. When injustice becomes law, opposing that law is perfectly justified.
Use the Parliament and other peaceful methods to make your point and educate people.
Yeah, yeah, the parliament that would rather legalize child marriages and oppose electoral reform than do anything of use to the country. Protesting is perfectly peaceful. Thank God people like Nelson Mandela didn't listen to fools like you, imagine the world we'd be living in now if that was the case.

When Pakistanis with differences can't live together.....Pashtunistan is born and IK would be the leader of it
Total Bull. Pakistanis with POLITICAL DIFFERENCES will NOT form AN ETHNIC DIVIDE. PTI has massive support from Punjabis, Sindhis, Karachiites and people from every other ethnicity. Your theory is illogical and racist.

If I see a Spade, I'll call it a Spade.
No, when you see a spade you call it a grand Pashtun conspiracy to destroy the world.
A racist hypocritical liar. What a beautifully nauseating combination.
 
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The whole elections were rigged since 2008. PPP & PML-N have decided, no matter what happens we will take turns & ANP, JUI, MQM will be part of the Govt. & support no matter what.

PPP are all set & ready to win the next elections.
 
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This is shame. That's why they were hiding behind the stay orders. Doob maro if you call this democracy.
 
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280 votes out of 1254 votes checked have been found to be fake while 12 people at PS-98 have been reported to have cast their votes twice.

@Proudpakistaniguy @WishLivePak @SBD-3 @cb4

yaar kuch sharam ati ha ab???? u supported this guy? then u do propoganda against imran khan for standing up for the rights on Pakistanis
Why you are getting over excited and making too much noises by tagging us. We dont support PML(N) blindly in everything they do. We dont blindly worship every MNAs or MPAs of PML(N) and neither we consider them holly or saints who cannot do curruption or wrong doings. If crimes get prove in court of law then i personally will happy if they get banned for life time. Also some bogus votes in one constituency dont nullify the whole election. It was your Ik who never trusted Nadra and election commission and went for sit ins long marches and shut down routes but now you guys are jumping up and down because nadra finding was accoding to your accusations. If you had trusted in these institutions then why took different plans A, B, C and D?

And what we will say about this finding of Nadra?

Over 122,000 votes “unidentified” in PTI’s Tareen’s constituency

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The National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) has declared over 122,000 votes cast in constituency NA-154 Lodhran as “unidentified” besides disclosing that 728 persons cast their votes more than once.

This was revealed in a NADRA report which will be presented before an election tribunal in Multan on November 6 during the hearing of a petition filed by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Secretary General Jahangir Tareen against alleged rigging in the constituency. Tareen had lost the General Elections 2013 which he had contested from NA-154.

Sources said that per the report, 218,000 votes were cast in NA-154 during General Elections 2013 out of which 122,553 votes have been declared “unidentified”, while 728 voters exercised their right to vote more than once.

The report states that only 73,000 votes have been verified so far while 189 votes were found to have been cast by people whose thumb impressions did not match the thumb impressions present in their records. Ballot boxes of 14 polling stations were not found available.

And this

Rigging proved in PS-93, PTI's Hafeez Uddin de-seated | Pakistan | Dunya News


 
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New CEC seeks 'unauthorised' Prado
Ali Akbar
Published about 20 hours ago
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Justice Sardar Mohammad Raza Khan. - Photo courtesy: peshawarhighcourt.gov.pk
ISLAMABAD: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) sent a summary to the Prime Minister’s Secretariat on Friday evening, seeking a new 3000 cc 'Prado' for new Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) Justice Sardar Raza, despite the fact that he is only authorised to have a 1600-1800 cc car as per his service rules, sources in the ECP confirmed to DawnNews.

The reason stated for seeking a Prado is that the new CEC requires it for field work. He will keep the authorised vehicle with him too.

PM Secretariat officials confirmed receiving the summary but said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has not yet made the decision to grant a Prado to the CEC.

Justice Sardar Raza was appointed as the new CEC last week after the post remained vacant for 16 months.

Examine: Justice Sardar Raza Khan named CEC

The issue of the appointment of the CEC became widely politicised after Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan openly criticised some of the earlier choices for the post.

The position had been vacant since retd Justice Fakharuddin G. Ebrahim resigned after the May 2013 general elections on July 31, 2013 to protest court interference in the commission’s domain with regards to changes in the schedule for the presidential elections, announced by the ECP as per its constitutional mandate.

Take a look: Chief Election Commissioner Fakhruddin G Ebrahim resigns

Justice Khan is the 14th permanent CEC to be appointed since the formation of the ECP in 1956. Ironically, Pakistan had 31 acting CEC(s) which are more than double as compared to the permanent ones.

Justice Sardar has been a judge of the Supreme Court and is a former chief justice of the Peshawar High Court. Before his retirement from the apex court in February 2010, he was appointed the acting CEC twice in 2009.

He is generally praised for being an impartial and independent judge. On Sept 28, 2007, a Supreme Court bench, in a 6-3 split verdict, held that a petition challenging former military ruler Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf’s candidacy for a second term as president, was invalid.

Justice Khan was one of the three judges who dissented along with Justice Bhagwandas and Justice Mian Shakirullah Jan.

He was also among the judges who had refused to retake their oaths under the Provisional Constitutional Order (PCO) when Gen Musharraf had proclaimed a state of emergency on November 3, 2007.

Hearing a petition challenging the PCO, he had opposed the idea of issuing contempt notices to judges who had taken oaths under the order.

Joke after joke?
Rulling Mafia of pakistan stands committed to find their slaves to serve them?
 
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@taimur12 Could I ask you what you think of this post by Irfan Baloch? Do you agree that PTI supporters are being naive and stupid in thinking that their attempt to get rigging investigated will lead to any results?
Thank you!

@HughSlaman sure. he's going on somewhat of a tantrum here, but i get the gist of it. i think i've explained this before, but the notion that everything in pakistan, the police, the army, the bureaucracy, the civil service, the judiciary, every single element of state in pakistan is against pti, and is involved in rigging for pmln, is ridiculous. i mean there is no word in the dictionary to describe how truly stupid and factually incorrect that view is.

for example. just recently the courts asked nawaz's sharif's daughter mariam to step down from her position in the laptop distribution scheme because she didn't fit the merit. courts in pakistan are completely independent.
the thread itself signifies that the election tribunal is working and is not under any influence.

now your question, and the thread itself, is underlining a premise, and that is that the 2013 elections were rigged. and all state institutions of pakistan were involved in it. anything that satisfies this claim is correct, and anything that doesn't, is incorrect. if the election tribunal finds fake votes, it is doing allah's work, and if it finds no fake votes, kill everyone in pakistan. shutdown. nuke pakistan. it is this mentality that has been eating pakistan for so long. intolerance, cynicism, everything is a conspiracy, everyone is corrupt. these views have lead to political parties becoming cults.

coming to your other question, pti supporters are not naive or stupid. they are just ignorant of reality and hold their party and its leader to a different set of rules, which is hypocritical of them. now obviously not everyone that supports pti holds these values, for example you and I have had a civilized discourse that has been quite insightful. but just look at the posts above, made by tankman and oranzaib. one supports pmln, the other pti. majority of the forum is filled with posts like these and look at the level of intellect in these posts. unfortunately, an overwhelming majority is held by people with these views and so therefore we have frenzy of fanaticism right now, in which the truth has been murdered.
 
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@Jzaib and @Leader

tell me this
my question to PTI
why you guys are so naive and utterly stupid
do you think this Noora league will leave any evidence that can implicate it? when it has the administration and judiciary under its foot then wont it destroy the ballots? there might be flooding or mysterious fire? or best of all... ALL ballots might contain votes ONLY and ONLY casted to Nawaz league?

you guys are babies , kids thinking Nawaz will play fair? Noora league will ban access to the real votes.. they might be sunk in the Ravi already. you guys are beating the bush.

or maybe I am over reacting and stating something impossible,

well I am sorry
how about this

even if a miracle happens and all the evidence is intact and indeed as per sample 27000 votes are found to be fake, duplicate or wrong then what? who will have the authority to take action?

FYI, the national assembly speaker has already filed defamation and contempt of court case against the judge that ordered the opening of ballot boxes and recounting of his votes

Saad Rafq, Khaja Asif, Talal CH, Pervaiz Rashid, Mushahid Ullah and Abid Sherali will all mock you in the end when the recounting will show that 200% votes were casted to Nawaz league.

Yar you know that we are aware of these possibilities, some have even taken place, woodbugs destroyed Tareen's ballots, some Election commission office in lahore at a school also caught fire, the CEC who demanded new Prado? but what other option do we have, give up? No, never. this is our way of life to fight, till they mend their ways or we are taken out..there is going to be no compromise. we only have this hope that somewhere down the road, if we continue to fight, we might get electoral reforms in our life-time, that may ensure fair elections.. only then we can move on from this sinkhole created by pmln/ppp's monarchy.. yar this is a fight for Pakistan. simple, wont give up.
 
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@Jzaib and @Leader

tell me this
my question to PTI
why you guys are so naive and utterly stupid
do you think this Noora league will leave any evidence that can implicate it? when it has the administration and judiciary under its foot then wont it destroy the ballots? there might be flooding or mysterious fire? or best of all... ALL ballots might contain votes ONLY and ONLY casted to Nawaz league?

you guys are babies , kids thinking Nawaz will play fair? Noora league will ban access to the real votes.. they might be sunk in the Ravi already. you guys are beating the bush.

or maybe I am over reacting and stating something impossible,

well I am sorry
how about this

even if a miracle happens and all the evidence is intact and indeed as per sample 27000 votes are found to be fake, duplicate or wrong then what? who will have the authority to take action?

FYI, the national assembly speaker has already filed defamation and contempt of court case against the judge that ordered the opening of ballot boxes and recounting of his votes

Saad Rafq, Khaja Asif, Talal CH, Pervaiz Rashid, Mushahid Ullah and Abid Sherali will all mock you in the end when the recounting will show that 200% votes were casted to Nawaz league.




This concern is nothing new, its been in PTI ranks since start. But that shouldn't stop us from demanding the justice and keep trying to expose them. Even if a fire burns all the results, or only Nawaz Sharif's votes come out of ballot papers, it will still expose them.

Remember, N-League's biggest problem is the audit. They've never been questioned in this country, especially when they were in power. If the audit happens, it will be their biggest defeat as it will set a trend that even the govt can be challenged regardless of how much they try.
 
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as dumb as a patwari is, JK lost election winning candidate is N league. It is one of the halqa in 4 halqa in PTI demand to be opened. bro a leadship that support murderer, done corruption and made riggers ministers and speaker even after they involvement how can u say that. why did u proved this link?>?

shame on ur stupid arguments . still trying to defend him

Why you are getting over excited and making too much noises by tagging us. We dont support PML(N) blindly in everything they do. We dont blindly worship every MNAs or MPAs of PML(N) and neither we consider them holly or saints who cannot do curruption or wrong doings. If crimes get prove in court of law then i personally will happy if they get banned for life time. Also some bogus votes in one constituency dont nullify the whole election. It was your Ik who never trusted Nadra and election commission and went for sit ins long marches and shut down routes but now you guys are jumping up and down because nadra finding was accoding to your accusations. If you had trusted in these institutions then why took different plans A, B, C and D?

And what we will say about this finding of Nadra?

Over 122,000 votes “unidentified” in PTI’s Tareen’s constituency

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The National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) has declared over 122,000 votes cast in constituency NA-154 Lodhran as “unidentified” besides disclosing that 728 persons cast their votes more than once.

This was revealed in a NADRA report which will be presented before an election tribunal in Multan on November 6 during the hearing of a petition filed by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Secretary General Jahangir Tareen against alleged rigging in the constituency. Tareen had lost the General Elections 2013 which he had contested from NA-154.

Sources said that per the report, 218,000 votes were cast in NA-154 during General Elections 2013 out of which 122,553 votes have been declared “unidentified”, while 728 voters exercised their right to vote more than once.

The report states that only 73,000 votes have been verified so far while 189 votes were found to have been cast by people whose thumb impressions did not match the thumb impressions present in their records. Ballot boxes of 14 polling stations were not found available.

And this

Rigging proved in PS-93, PTI's Hafeez Uddin de-seated | Pakistan | Dunya News


WTH ....20 % fake votes :o::o: ..........u cant say its rigging ............its pre-planned election .........RIP Democracy:angry:
na Nawaz sharif is expert in electoral rigging
 
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