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Myanmar took advantage of Bangladesh Weakness
The state is the people's wealth.
The government runs the state for the people. But when a government does not have public status, then it is weak. Nobody in the country does not believe in him. Likewise, the present government of the present government of liberation is going to be with Burma.

The Burmese army has ransomed the killing of its citizens and pushed them to Bangladesh, along with them entering the territory of Bangladesh again and again, they are helicopters firing, violating our sovereignty. But the present government of Bangladesh is not giving any reply, the head is low. Earlier, the Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) personnel took away the people of Burma Police.

In 1978, when the Rohingya problem arose, martyred President Ziaur Rahman sent first Brigade soldiers to the border. As a result, the Burmese regime, Nay Win, feared and judged in the United Nations. Afterwards, President Zia sent Rohingya back to the United Nations mediation agreement. In the face of Burma's incursion in 2000, more than 6 hundred Burma's Burmese soldiers were killed in the lasting 3-day continuous offensive of 2500 soldiers led by BDR chief General Fazlur Rahman. After teaching the Burmese army that there was a lot of peace.

Already the Burmese army has killed more than 3 thousand Rohingya Muslims, burnt thousands of houses, has thrown 7 lakh Rohingyas at least 17 times in Bangladesh's helicopter - but the present SPINELESS government of Bangladesh is not able to respond to Burma. Because of this there is no military failure in the country, but the government has no moral force. The Burmese government also knows that there is no universal government of Bangladesh. So they are showing the thumb.

Professor Asif Nazrul analysis on the problem of Rohingya problem and ongoing crisis with Myanmar is praiseworthy.
 
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Discussions/Talks are the Signs of Weakness
অক্ষমের অস্ত্র হলো আলাপ আলোচনা; রোহিঙ্গা বিষয়ে অনেকের প্রশ্নের জবাব

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Tue, September 12

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Major General A L M Fazlur Rahman (Retd), former Director General of BDR
মেজর জেনারেল আ ল ম ফজলুর রহমান (অব.):

ණ☛ ভারত আমাদের ট্রেইনিং দিয়েছিল যুদ্ধ করে দেশ স্বাধীন করার জন্য। আমরা যুদ্ধ করে দেশ স্বাধীন করেছি। আমরাতো তালেবান হই নাই। বরং মুক্তিযোদ্ধারা তালেবান বিরোধী। কে বলেছে মিয়ানমার সেনাবাহিনী আমাদের আক্রমন করলে আমরা যুদ্ধে হেরে যাবো? আমাদের যুদ্ধ আমরা করবো।ভারতের সাহায্যের কোনো প্রয়োজন নাই।

ණ☛এইতো কয়দিন আগে চীনের সাথে বিনা যুদ্ধে পরাজয় মেনে নিয়ে ভারত দোকলাম থেকে সৈন্য সরিয়ে নিয়েছে। কে বলেছে মুক্তিযোদ্ধারা অস্ত্র জমা না দিয়ে ঐ অস্ত্র দিয়ে চুরি ডাকাতি করেছে? এই ধরনের কথা দেশ বিরোধী কুলাঙ্গাররা বলে। ৪০ বছর ধরে দালাইলামা ভারতে আশ্রয় নিয়ে আছেন। তিব্বতে ফিরতে পেরেছেন আলাপ আলোচনার মাধ্যমে? যুদ্ধ করলে তিনি বহু পূর্বেই তিব্বতে ফিরতে পারতেন।

ණ☛অক্ষমের অস্ত্র হলো আলাপ আলোচনা। আমরা এতে বিশ্বাস করলে বাংলাদেশ স্বাধীন হতোনা। বংগবন্ধু একদিকে আলোচনা করেছেন সাথে এও বলেছেন " ঘরে ঘরে দূর্গ গড়ে তোলো। তোমাদের যা আছে তাই নিয়ে শত্রুর মোকাবেলা করতে হবে। রক্ত যখন দিয়েছি রক্ত আরো দেবো বাংলাদেশকে মুক্ত করে ছাড়বো ইনশাহআল্লাহ"। স্বাধীনতা রক্ত চায়। রোহিঙ্গাদের স্বাধীনতার জন্য রক্ত দিতে হবে। আজ হোক আর কাল হোক।
লেখক: কলামিস্ট ও প্রাক্তন মহাপরিচালক বিডিআর।

http://newsorgan24.com/detail/27848
 
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1. Few years after the 1947 independence, CM Shere Bangla had opened training camp for Arakanese FFs at Comilla Cantt. If the Burmese were looking for an weakness after the Brits left, it was not there.

2. In late 1972, during a summit, Gen Ne Win told BB that there were some Bengalis in Arakan. BB advised them to observe Burma's laws and they can stay on.
BB instantly retorted, "Where there are Bengalis, that is my Bangladesh."And the Burmese received the message loud and clear. The weakness the Burmans looked for in Bengal centuries was not there.

3. When there was an exodus during Zia's rule, he allowed the Mujahids to organize training camps to resist. Then he sent a message to Burma, "stop this exodus or I shall arm and send them back". And the Burmese did take back their citizens."

4.With BKZ coming in the weakness was found indeed. Corrupt ministers and officials easily bribed with rubies, emerald and jade made matters easy. NSI Chief Nasim Minister Col Mustafiz worked overtime to shut down the remnant Mujahid camps. However some Rakhine, Chin and Kachin camps continued in inaccessible locations.

5. During SHW's first tenure Pol Adviser Suronjit Sen took a keen interest in wiping out Mujahid leadership and any camps. His appointee CI Purohit posted in Ukhia was given special authority to deal with them. This CI could surpass the DIG or SP in terrorizing the Mujahids. He had most of Mujahid jailed. In one raid on Ruma Madrasa he desecrated the Holy Quran. Mujahid offices, libraries, computers, etc were all ransacked.

6. The Buddhist Burman have been focused for last three centuries to physically eliminate the Muslims of Arakan. And they struck whenever Bengal was weak.

7. What is now happening is furthering a joint policy of the Buddhist chauvinists and Hindu extremists to annihilate the Muslim bridgehead into this region.
We are going to propose to UN what Duval-Modi has agreed with the Burmese Junta. The proposal is for creation of a cage like Gaza for this people.

8. Unless BD has leaders with balls there is no hope for these unfortunate people.
 
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1. Few years after the 1947 independence, CM Shere Bangla had opened training camp for Arakanese FFs at Comilla Cantt. If the Burmese were looking for an weakness after the Brits left, it was not there.
Sher-e-Bangla certainly tried Arakan to join east Pakistan, but neither Jinnah Sahab nor the local Chittagong political families of Fazlul Qader Chowdhury, A. K Khan and other rich and influencial families contributed to the same cause. It is also true that many of these families themselves migrated from Akyab (Sittwe) bofore or after 1947.

The result was the finalization of Arakan to be a part of Burma that started only in 1937, only ten yrs before partition. The callousness of our Muslim leaders is fully responsible for the present tense situation there. With their support Arakan could have been a part of east Pakistan.
 
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Bangla bhai/Bluesky,

You guys are yourselves admitting that Rohingyas wanted to break away from Burma and join East Pak, so can we blame Burma for being suspicious of Rohingyas?

Regards
 
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What was the situation of that area , border , Rohingiya Muslims , Burma vs East Pakistan etc, before 1971 , I mean before BD??? Its a serious question .
 
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Farahnaz Ispahani, ContributorGlobal fellow, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars
The U.N. Needs A Peacekeeping Force, Not Just Words, To Protect Myanmar’s Rohingya
Finding a mechanism to prevent future tragedies like the Rwandan genocide and the unfolding disaster in Myanmar will be the real test for our civilization.
09/11/2017 02:10 pm ET
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ANADOLU AGENCY/GETTY
Rohingya refugees flee to Bangladesh.

As reports of atrocities against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar’s western Rakhine state pour in, one thing is clear: The international community needs to respond more robustly.

The United Nations refugee agency has reported that more than a quarter of the Rohingya in Myanmar — 270,000 people — have fled their homes so far. The horrors we’re seeing in Rakhine are similar to those we witnessed in the 1990s during the slaughter of the Tutsi minority in Rwanda and the ethnic cleansing of Bosnia’s Muslims and Croats.

Rendered stateless because Myanmar refuses to recognize them as citizens, the Rohingya are being forced to flee as their villages are burned. Reports of rape, murder and arson have increased as refugees arrive by land or sea in Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand.

The horrors we’re seeing in Rakhine are similar to those we witnessed during the Rwandan genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Balkans.
But the situation demands a stronger response than merely condemning the actions of the Myanmar government. The atrocities in Bosnia did not end without NATO’s involvement, and the genocide in Rwanda did not cease until the U.N. sent in a peacekeeping force.

Much of the world’s response to the Rohingya crisis has centered on well-deserved criticism of Nobel laureate and Myanmar’s de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi. Public figures have penned newspaper editorials calling to revoke Suu Kyi’s Nobel Prize. Two Nobel laureates, Malala Yousafzai and Desmond Tutu, have criticized Suu Kyi’s role in the humanitarian crisis. Tutu came out of retirement to voice his criticism of a woman he described as “a dearly beloved sister” he has long admired but whose behavior he strongly condemns in the “unfolding horror” of this “ethnic cleansing.”

Tutu admonished Suu Kyi, saying it was “incongruous for a symbol of righteousness to lead” a country that allowed such atrocities. “If the political price of your ascension to the highest office in Myanmar is your silence, the price is surely too steep,” he said.
This situation demands a stronger response than merely condemning the actions of the Myanmar government.

Suu Kyi’s attempts to spin the violence against the Rohingya is ingenuous, at best. Reports of attempted genocide and mass exodus of the Rohingya, which began to surface in 2009, are based on eyewitness accounts and are documented on video. Refugees arriving in Bangladesh have recounted matching stories of children being beheaded and men and women being burned to death.

The Rohingya are unwanted in Bangladesh and other neighboring countries as well. With little economic or social standing and virtually no rights even in their homeland, these people have no voice. They are friendless under the might of military guns.

Although the history of the Rohingya can be traced back to the eighth century, Myanmar law does not recognize the ethnic minority as one of its national races. The government’s attitude, as well as silence from the international community, reflects the mistreatment and marginalization of ethnic and religious minorities that have, unfortunately, resurfaced as a global phenomenon today.

It’s shocking. I’ve never encountered a situation like this.Linnea Arvidsson, U.N. investigator
The result of events like the tragedy in Myanmar is communal majoritarianism. As Linnea Arvidsson, a U.N. investigator who met refugees in Bangladesh, put it: “It’s shocking. I’ve never encountered a situation like this, where you do 204 interviews and every single person you speak with has a traumatic story, whether their house was burnt, they’ve been raped or a relative was killed or taken away.”

The U.N. Security Council must heed the advice of Secretary-General António Guterres to step up its response. “The international community has a responsibility to undertake concerted efforts to prevent further escalation of the crisis,” Guterres warned. This might involve sending international forces to protect the Rohingya from Myanmar’s security forces and allied mobs intent on eliminating another minority.

But after the immediate issue has been attended to and international forces have intervened to save the Rohingya from being eliminated or permanently excluded from their homeland, there will remain a need to work on the larger issue of communalism. Majorities must not be allowed to attack minorities to create religiously or ethnically pure societies.
Finding a mechanism to prevent future Rwandas and Rakhines will be the real test for our civilization.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/myanmar-rohingya-united-nations_us_59b695c3e4b0dfaafcf95e79?m7d
 
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Burma know very well they can kills muslims because we the leaders of muslims world are in bed with the all the non muslims and all we do is to do bla bla bla
 
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Bangla bhai/Bluesky,

You guys are yourselves admitting that Rohingyas wanted to break away from Burma and join East Pak, so can we blame Burma for being suspicious of Rohingyas?

Regards
Punjabi Sikh wanted to break away from India and wanted to form independent Khalistan.So India should start genocide campaign against Sikh people?
 
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Doyalbaba,

They had legitimate reasons to be angry with India and even then only some Sikhs took up arms. They are our Indic brothers and brothers have a right to be angry with each other.

Regards
 
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Doyalbaba,

They had legitimate reasons to be angry with India and even then only some Sikhs took up arms. They are our Indic brothers and brothers have a right to be angry with each other.

Regards
And Rohingya have no right to be angry with burmese? Rather you should stop apologizing for burmese campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
 
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Rohingya crisis should concern region
Mahfuz Anam
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Rohingya Refugees (PHOTO: Twitter)
Reacting to the insurgent attacks on some police outposts and an army camp on August 25, the Myanmar security forces have unleashed a ‘war’ of sorts on the Rohingya Muslims – an ethnic minority group living for centuries in the Rakhine state of Myanmar – burning down their villages, killing their men and raping their women, committing what can be termed as ‘crimes against humanity’ that have resulted in nearly 500 dead and nearly 200,000 taking shelter in Bangladesh, which has hosted Rohingya refugees for more than three decades in varying numbers depending on the level of oppression acrossthe border.

Myanmar, then called Burma, became independent in 1948 from the British, a year after the latter’s withdrawal from the Indian subcontinent in 1947. Geographically Rakhine state, where the current conflict is taking place, is separated from the rest of Myanmar by a barren mountain range.

Ancient history gives the area its own separate past with a distinct Rakhine Kingdom being established in 1430 with its capital in Mrauk U located as a link between Buddhist and Muslim Asia with close ties with the Sultanate of Bengal.

After 350 years of independent existence Rakhine State was conquered by the Burmese in 1784. This annexation was short lived as the territory was occupied by the British in 1824 and made a part of the British Indian Empire.

Today the Rohingyas are about 1.1 million Muslim citizens of the Rakhine state but are not recognised legally as one of the 135 ethnic groups constituting a part of the citizenry of Myanmar. It is perhaps not just a coincidence that the current attack on the Rohingyas follows on the heels of the report of the Rakhine Advisory Commission led by the former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan.

This Commission was set up with active participation of the Myanmar government, albeit under severe pressure from the international community, and whose findings it had earlier pledged to implement. Now with the latest spate of violence the prospect of implementation of the Rakhine Commission recommendations appears remote and the possibility of a peaceful resolution of the Rohingya crisis may elude us once more.

The Commission has correctly identified the central questions to be “citizenship verification, documentation, rights and equality before the law” and goes on to say that “… if they are left to fester, the future of the Rakhine state – and indeed of Myanmar as a whole – will be irretrievably jeopardised.”

As we see it from Bangladesh, it is not only the future of Myanmar which will be jeopardised but that of this region itself as the Secretary General of the UN warned last Wednesday (6th September). China, given its historical links, will take more than a passing interest in this affair, an effort in which it will be supported by Russia the indications of which is discernible in their pattern of voting at the UN Security Council on recent resolutions on Rohingya issue.

The bloc of Arab and Muslim countries will naturally be drawn into this fray as fellow Muslims are being slaughtered. Already there is sufficient reason for concern at the flow of Middle eastern money in the region with distinct fundamentalist overtones.

We all know about Rohingyas finding their way into various Arab and Muslim countries with stories of atrocities invoking a natural reaction for seeking justice and fighting a future of fear and intimidation by building up some sort of resistance including armed.

These are but natural outcomes of prolonged oppression to which the Annan Report clearly alludes to. The US is likely to be more interested than usual given its deteriorating relationship with both China and Russia and the rising tiff in the South China Sea, not to speak of tension with North Korea and its unpredictable and dangerous consequences.

India has completely surprised Bangladesh by its all out endorsement of Myanmar’s position.

We, naively as it now appears, were hoping that Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Myanmar would help, if not to solve issue but at least to stop the violence and ebb the flow of refugees.

PM Modi’s support to Myanmar’s position and the absence of any substantive reference to the refugees issue and the consequent humanitarian disaster has greatly disappointed Bangladesh.

The rising terrorism that both Prime Minister Modi and the Aung San Suu Kyi have pledged to fight are created and sustained by oppression and ignoring the rights of a minority group. That has been the experience everywhere. For the so-called “Jihadists” the oppression of the Rohingyas fit the bill completely as a cause they will espouse to gain credibility in the Muslim world whose natural support for this oppressed group of Muslims is only obvious.

In this regard the emergence of ARSA (Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army) is something that should concern all. In the early hours of August 25 this group, whose Arabic name is Harakah al-Yaqin simultaneously attacked 30 police posts and an army base in the northern side of the Rakhine state. Twelve Myanmar troops and officials and 77 insurgents were killed.

This is by far the most audacious and damaging attack by the insurgents who are mostly equipped with machetes, few small arms and hand held explosives.

The emergence of such an armed group cannot be welcomed by any country wanting peace and stability in this region.

The International Crisis Group (ICG) termed this as the most serious escalation in the conflict. Obviously the biggest losers from the escalation and continuation of this conflict will be the two countries directly affected – Myanmar and Bangladesh. Bangladesh has not yet taken any hard-line against its only other neighbour save India and has tried, over the years to reach an understanding with Myanmar.

It has internationalised the issue only to the extent of seeking humanitarian aid and nothing more. It first received about 300,000 Rohingya refugees in 1978. Through negotiations about 210,000 were repatriated with the rest continuing to live in Bangladesh. However, the latest situation has changed everything. Bangladesh will now be under severe pressure from the Arab and Muslim world to internationalise the issue and take a tougher stance than it has hitherto taken.

The visits of the Indonesian and Turkish foreign ministers are indications of that.

If there is no change in the situation on the ground Bangladesh will be left with little option but to take a tougher stance leading to further complicating the situation.

Myanmar on its part must realise that blaming all the current atrocities on the so-called terrorists and claiming that its security forces had nothing to do with the crimes committed, in spite of unvarying account of thousands of refugees to the contrary, is neither credible nor helpful in solving the situation.

The Kofi Annan Commission has painstakingly worked out what international experts say is a realistic path towards peaceful resolution of a conflict that left to itself may become a dangerous crisis.

Myanmar must pay heed to the recommendations of that report. Aung San Suu Kyi, the leader of Myanmar needs to remember what she herself said in her Nobel Prize acceptance speech that “Whenever suffering is ignored, there will be seeds of conflict, for suffering degrades and embitters and enrages”.

(The writer is Editor and Publisher, The Daily Star)
SOURCE THE STATESMAN
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/09/09/rohingya-crisis-concern-region/
 
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