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Myanmar ops: Why letting Pakistan know we have options is good in itself

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There is only one reason why India's recent raid in Myanmar has captured everyone's imagination - its implications for India's western border with Pakistan. This obsession with the Islamic Republic hinges on the fact that it has, for three decades, aided terrorists against India and harboured them on its soil. It has protected them even by threatening nuclear retaliation in case of reprisals.

Naturally, the Indian media and commentariat have wondered - egged on by the ambiguously suggestive wording of statements by some government sources - whether last week's cross-border raid is a template for future Indian counter-terrorism operations, especially along the western border. Criticism has come along two axes - the veiled references to Pakistan, a much graver threat, and to the publicity the military operation has received.

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When news of the Indian incursion into Myanmar broke, Pakistan's Interior Minister, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, made a rather banal remark when and warned us that "Pakistan is not Myanmar." Indian security officials would be the first to testify that the latter is a friendly neighbour that has had a long history of cooperation with India in matters of cross-border terrorism and narcotics trafficking while the former is a well-armed, hostile, nuclear state-sponsor of terrorism. Pakistan struggles to find a raison d'etre that is not in opposition to India. Any references equating the two theatres have simply been misunderstood; rather, they most likely were to suggest that the differences between Myanmar and Pakistan will no longer tie Delhi's hands against provocations from Rawalpindi.

Guilty for sins of omission in the development of the Pakistani bomb, Western governments have now taken to urging Delhi to act with prudence in its dealings with Islamabad, despite the incessant and almost daily provocations from across the border. While they continue to sell weapons to the Islamic Republic, they simultaneously appeal to Delhi's wisdom and forbearance while dealing with an unstable neighbour. The west casts Indian military modernisation as destabilising. Delhi must think for itself whether these recommendations have yielded any positive results over the past so many decades.

In responding to Pakistan, India must learn from its neighbour. Islamabad has shown Delhi how useless nuclear weapons become at lower thresholds of conflict. Delhi must, therefore, lower its threshold of conflict to below the Pakistani nuclear tripwire. It is almost certain that a massive military incursion by India, however limited and short, would trigger Pakistan's nuclear tripwire; it is questionable how it would respond to small, yet intense, raids a la Myanmar, and it is beyond doubt that Islamabad would struggle to justify a nuclear response to "forceful persuasion" of terrorist leaders to give up their trade or an upswell in the yearnings of its Baloch or Pashtun populations for liberty. Were India to engage in hot pursuits, the upside is that there is little that Rawalpindi can do beyond what it is already doing.

Such operations take a high degree of skill and material sophistication which is, by all indications, presently beyond Indian capabilities. Nonetheless, the Myanmar mission indicates a change in thinking and direction in Delhi. Though it serves as no template for operations across India's other borders, the political intent is quite clear: the tepid security legacies of PV Narasimha Rao and IK Gujral have been jettisoned for more pragmatic measures. There has always been a constituency in India urging the strengthening of Pakistan's civilian institutions by bestowing legitimacy through engagement. However, India can only go so far as Pakistan's own security apparatus is willing to go. One cannot become Ashoka without fighting the Kalinga war. If India does resort to conflict below Pakistan's nuclear threshold, some of it will have to receive some publicity despite the thick veil of secrecy that shrouds security affairs in India. Some ascribe noble motivations to it, with discretion being the better part of valour, but it is more likely that the government is reluctant to share information with its citizens. Public displays of covert planning are as vital an ingredient of deterrence as weapons systems are. Deterrence is ultimately a psychological weapon. If the enemy perceives India to be strong or is certain of repercussions in case of misadventures, an additional pause is given to its planning.

One of the best examples of this is the Charles de Gaulle myth of the French Resistance during World War II; another is Italian diplomacy of the early Cold War period, when Italian bureaucrats and politicians leveraged their close and sometimes clandestine relations with the United States and the CIA for enhanced prestige within Europe and the North Atlantic alliance. Such behaviour actually created another component of national identity and bolstered Rome's actual relevance on the international scene.

Undoubtedly, some of India's operations will never be acknowledged, others will only be whispered in shadowy corners, and a limited handful will become the stuff of legends; only the security agencies will distinguish between the three. The lessons from Israel's intelligence agencies are there to be seen: out of the hundreds of operations run in the neighbourhood, a small handful like Wolfgang Lotz, Eli Cohen, Thunderbolt, and the Wrath of God were enough to create the illusion of an unforgiving and invincible Israel. In an era where the media has become another theatre of war, it would be a myopic for Indian planners to disregard the advantages of publicising a few, well chosen operations.

Albert Einstein is credited with defining insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In his book, Through the Looking Glass, Appu Soman chronicles over a decade of diplomacy between India and Pakistan and how little it has yielded. Restraint is a virtue - something India's commentariat seems to have forgotten - only if one is seen to have other options. The Myanmar operation may not be a template for Pakistan, but it was certainly the announcement of a change in thinking at Raisina Hill. Let the word go out.

Myanmar ops: Why letting Pakistan know we have options is good in itself - Firstpost
 
If Pakistan would allow India to cross its border at all to perform any operations, than suck attack is possible. I just don't see Pakistan would allow it anytime soon. So it's not possible and not an option for India.
 
The usual empty rhetoric without any substance. The Indians only bluff. Their imagination knows no bounds. They have been doing this for the past 60 odd years. Always consumed by their blind hate.

I say bring it on man... Stop talking already and bring it on. You have done enough hollow talking for the past 60 years. Your empty words don't mean a thing and fall on deaf ears. No more sissy backstabbing stuff. You got a problem, right? Come out in the open ans let's settle it...
 
If Pakistan would allow India to cross its border at all to perform any operations, than suck attack is possible. I just don't see Pakistan would allow it anytime soon. So it's not possible.
There is no need for India to carry out a Myanmar-type operation from our Western boarders. We have other assets to strike down the terrorists that we want to. Why should we even provoke a direct confrontation with pakistan even after having other means to get our things done. But this ops is also about sending right kind of message to our neighboring Islamic republic.
 
There is no need for India to carry out a Myanmar-type operation from our Western boarders. We have other assets to strike down the terrorists that we want to. Why should we even provoke a direct confrontation with pakistan even after having other means to get our things done. But this ops is also about sending right kind of message to our neighboring Islamic republic.

LMAO We'll see what you're capable of. Bluffing with empty words and carrying out a meaningless operation in a country like Myanmar doesn't make you invincible. LMAO @ Myanmar... Don't even make me laugh... Indians as usual getting high on their "achievement" which in reality only amounts to a joke...
 
The usual empty rhetoric without any substance. The Indians only bluff. Their imagination knows no bounds. They have been doing this for the past 60 odd years. Always consumed by their blind hate.

I say bring it on man... Stop talking already and bring it on. You have done enough hollow talking for the past 60 years. Your empty words don't mean a thing and fall on deaf ears. No more sissy backstabbing stuff. You got a problem, right? Come out in the open ans let's settle it...
For sure we will do it. But the time will be ours. Place will be yours.:-).
 
For sure we will do it. But the time will be ours. Place will be yours.:-).

We'll see. Tired of hearing the same old broken record... You could do it back then when Pak wasn't a nuke power. What the fvck are you going to do now? LMAO keep dreaming ugliness...
 
LMAO We'll see what you're capable of. Bluffing with empty words and carrying out a meaningless operation in a country like Myanmar doesn't make you invincible.
Hi @Dalit - According to many PDF Pakistanis thousands ( many put this figure as 50,000) of RAW agents has already infiltrated your highly protected Pakistani territory. Every Separatist organizations like BLA and BRA are already being funded by evil India and are fighting with Indian made weapons. So far India has caused 200 billion dollar damage to your economy. So i guess either PDF Pakistanis who are claiming that thousands of RAW agents are already operating from your country is lying or you who is claiming Indian covert ops are useless is lying. As these 2 contradictory claims can't be true at the same time.
 
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Abbotabad proved Pakistan's military is powerless against cover operations ..
 
We'll see. Tired of hearing the same old broken record... You could do it back then when Pak wasn't a nuke power. What the fvck are you going to do now? LMAO keep dreaming ugliness...[/QUOTE
According to many PDF Pakistanis thousands ( many put this figure as 50,000) of RAW agents has already infiltrated your highly protected Pakistani territory. Every Separatist organizations like BLA and BRA are already being funded by evil India and are fighting with Indian made weapons. So far India has caused 200 billion dollar damage to your economy. So i guess either PDF Pakistanis who are claiming that thousands of RAW agents are already operating from your county is lying or you who is claiming Indian covert ops are useless is lying. As these 2 contradictory claims can't be true at the same time.
In fact Pakistan seeks parity with India by talking about India.
 
Hi @Dalit - According to many PDF Pakistanis thousands ( many put this figure as 50,000) of RAW agents has already infiltrated your highly protected Pakistani territory. Every Separatist organizations like BLA and BRA are already being funded by evil India and are fighting with Indian made weapons. So far India has caused 200 billion dollar damage to your economy. So i guess either PDF Pakistanis who are claiming that thousands of RAW agents are already operating from your county is lying or you who is claiming Indian covert ops are useless is lying. As these 2 contradictory claims can't be true at the same time.

LMAO Like as if Indian sponsored terrorism inside Pakistan is helping India in anyway? The last time I heard our army was slaughtering Indian sponsored militants like cucumbers. Many are laying down their weapons already. So much for Indian victory inside Pakistani territory.
 
LMAO Like as if Indian sponsored terrorism inside Pakistan is helping India in anyway? The last time I heard our army was slaughtering Indian sponsored militants like cucumbers. Many are laying down their weapons already. So much for Indian victory inside Pakistani territory.
Dont believe the guy who told you this BS. He was lying.
 
There is no need for India to carry out a Myanmar-type operation from our Western boarders. We have other assets to strike down the terrorists that we want to. Why should we even provoke a direct confrontation with pakistan even after having other means to get our things done. But this ops is also about sending right kind of message to our neighboring Islamic republic.

then why are you making fun of yourself by giving such irresponsible statements.....
and time and again indians are accepting a fact that india is indeed waging a proxy war.....
 
The last time I heard Abbotabad operation was carried out with the knowledge of ISI... Your theory kind of doesn't add up...

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Where was it heard from ?

Why is a Doc in jail if the ISI was in the loop ?
 
So a dog trying to show a cat how dangerous he is, he kills a mouse, then thumps his 26 inch chest.
 

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