Myanmar Defence Forum

[David Alayat]

Any news for 135 m frigate on 27th of March?

 

[sahureka2]

On September 5, the Prime Minister of Myanmar, General Min Aung Hlaing, arrived in Vladivostok to visit the command of the Pacific Fleet, the local Naval Academy named Makarov and show great interest in submarines.
This targeted visit leads to the hypothesis of an expansion of Russia-Myanmar military cooperation, in the training of Burmese crews and ... who knows if the submarine project 877 (Kilo) received as a gift from India, (with authorization from Moscow), will be alongside new project 636 (improved Kilo) to be built in Russian shipyards, or alternatively second-hand, one of those he visited that are currently under the Pacific fleet (5 project 877s currently still operational)

https://thailand.postsen.com/world/...n-Russia-see-the-Submarine-Pacific-Fleet.html
https://cincds.gov.mm/node/19359?d=1

 

[sahureka2]

On September 5, the Prime Minister of Myanmar, General Min Aung Hlaing, arrived in Vladivostok to visit the command of the Pacific Fleet, the local Naval Academy named Makarov and show great interest in submarines.
This targeted visit leads to the hypothesis of an expansion of Russia-Myanmar military cooperation, in the training of Burmese crews and ... who knows if the submarine project 877 (Kilo) received as a gift from India, (with authorization from Moscow), will be alongside new project 636 (improved Kilo) to be built in Russian shipyards, or alternatively second-hand, one of those he visited that are currently under the Pacific fleet (5 project 877s currently still operational)

https://thailand.postsen.com/world/...n-Russia-see-the-Submarine-Pacific-Fleet.html
https://cincds.gov.mm/node/19359?d=1

however it seems that at least some of the visits made practical sense. Myanmar will soon receive new Russian Su-30SM multi-role fighters

September 21, 2022, AviaStat.ru - Myanmar will soon receive several new Russian Su-30SM multi-role fighters, military government Deputy Information Minister Zo Ming Tun said Tuesday. He noted that Prime Minister Min Aung Hlein, during a recent trip to Russia, personally inspected the production and testing of the aircraft at the Irkutsk Air Force Plant. "They will all be delivered soon," said Zo Min Tun from The Irrawaddy. According to him, the fighters for Myanmar are supplied under a contract signed in 2018, worth about $ 204 million. The first two aircraft were delivered in March of this year, the remaining four will arrive in the near future.

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so even a visit to the submarine might not be just a courtesy

 

[Tagaung]

I hope we don't go that route. I am all for Nuclear capable Myanmar under a civilian government. But nuclear-armed Junta is a bad recipe cooked by a shit*y chef.

P.S: Don't want to life in north Korea like state.

https://tass.com/economy/1503597

Atomic energy cooperation between Myanmar and Russia raises concern

Some analysts say it is a first step in the junta’s plan to develop nuclear weapons.

www.rfa.org

Russia and Myanmar sign roadmap on nuclear cooperation at EEF — Rosatom​

The signing ceremony took place at the Eastern Economic Forum

VLADIVOSTOK, September 6. /TASS/. Russia and Myanmar signed a roadmap for cooperation on peaceful use of nuclear energy for 2022-2023, the press service of Russian nuclear corporation Rosatom reported on Tuesday.
The parties to the agreement are Rosatom and the Ministry of Science and Technology together with the Ministry of Electric Power of the Republic of the Union of Myanmar.
The signing ceremony took place at the Eastern Economic Forum.
According to Rosatom press service, the document was signed by Rosatom Director General Alexey Likhachev, Union Minister of Science and Technology of Myanmar Myo Thein Kyaw and Union Minister of Electric Power of Myanmar Thaung Han in the presence of the Chairman of the State Administrative Council, Prime Minister of the Republic of the Union of Myanmar, Senior General Min Aung Hlaing.

"The Roadmap fixes the defined steps for further Russian-Myanmar cooperation in nuclear sphere. In particular the document provides for the expanding of bilateral legal framework, possibility of implementing a small modular reactors project in Myanmar, as well as personnel training and work related to the improvement of public acceptance of nuclear energy in Myanmar," the press service says.
Organized by the Roscongress Foundation, the Seventh Eastern Economic Forum will be running from September 5 to September 8 in Vladivostok. TASS is the event’s general information partner and its official photohost agency. This year, the theme of the forum is: "On the Path to a Multipolar World.".
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Myanmar Regime Buys FTC-2000G Fighter Jets From China​

By The Irrawaddy 18 October 2022

The Myanmar Air Force has ordered several FTC-2000G midrange fighter jets from China, a major arms supplier to the Southeast Asian nation.
The Irrawaddy has learned that a group of approximately eight Air Force pilots, eight technicians and at least two armaments officers traveled to China via Kunming in June.
China has strict COVID-19 regulations and the Myanmar personnel had to go through quarantine in Kunming. The pilots are known to fly the F-7 interceptor, A-5 bomber and K-8 W trainer and light attack jet for the Myanmar Air Force.
The new jet fighters will replace the Myanmar Air Force’s aging F-7s and A-5s. Once they are delivered they are expected to be based at Namsang airbase in Shan State, according to sources familiar with the purchase.
It is not yet known when the agreement was reached between Beijing and Naypyitaw. The purchase of Chinese jet fighters may have begun in 2020, but delivery and pilot training were delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic and China’s strict policy on containing the disease.
The FTC-2000G is an advanced light multi-role trainer/combat aircraft designed and manufactured by Guizhou Aviation Industry Corporation (GAIC) under the supervision of Chinese state-owned aerospace and defense firm Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC).
It is the export variant of the Guizhou JL-9 trainer/combat aircraft, which is in service with the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) and the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).
The two-seat jet fighter has training capabilities with attack and fighting capabilities in combat.
It can be used to perform pilot flight training, aerial surveillance, patrol missions, reconnaissance, electronic warfare, close-in air support and air escort missions.
In April 2020, news emerged in Cambodia and in China’s Global Times that China planned to sell the aircraft to an undisclosed Southeast Asian country. It did not say how many units were to be sold, stating only that the deal was signed in January 2020 and that deliveries would start in early 2021 and be completed after two years.
The cost of the jet fighter is around US$8.5 million.
The reports identified Cambodia and Myanmar as potential buyers, as both countries are closely aligned with China, both militarily and politically.
Well-known middleman
The sources stated that Gateways Hong Kong Ltd. was involved in brokering the deal. A key arms broker, Gateways Hong Kong Ltd is also involved in buying spare parts for F-7 and A-5 aircraft.
Dr. Naing Htut Aung, a major arms supplier to Myanmar’s military, was also a key weapons dealer for the previous regime led by dictator Senior General Than Shwe.
Registered as a director of the Yangon-based International Gateways Group of Companies Ltd., Dr. Naing Htut Aung has had strong ties with successive military leaders, including current Senior General Min Aung Hlaing, sources told The Irrawaddy.
He is a key procurer of weapons, spare parts and upgrades for the Navy and Air Force and is an agent for major state-owned Chinese arms producers, said Justice for Myanmar (JFM), an activist group that monitors the military’s businesses, citing a private-sector source with military connections.
He was a middleman in the Air Force’s procurement of 16 JF-17 Thunder fighter jets from Pakistan in 2015, and was also a key figure in a joint venture between the Directorate of Myanmar Defense Industries and China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation to produce the K-8 jet trainer and light attack aircraft in Myanmar.
His businesses, Gateways International Holding Company and International Gateways Group of Companies, were registered at the same address as Myanmar Consultancy until late 2020.

Myanmar Regime Buys FTC-2000G Fighter Jets From China

The purchase of the fighters was arranged by arms dealer Dr. Naing Htut Aung in 2020 but delivery has been delayed by COVID; pilots are being trained in China.

www.irrawaddy.com

 

[Brainsucker]

I just watched an Indonesian youtube that claim that there are many Myanmar JF-17 are broken and must be repaired, and that make Myanmar Junta furious. Is it true or not? Is there any Myanmar posters here who can confirm this rumor, or is it just a rumor just to discredit JF-17? This is the link.

A bit of translation :

The title : Kesal bukan main pesawat baru yang dibeli dari Cina sekarang sudah masuk bengkel = (Myanmar Junta) are furious, because the new plane that bought from China now broken; and must be repaired.

Radarnya sering tulalit : The radar often get error
Masih muda tapi strukturnya pada retak = Still new but the structure already has a lot of crack.

Belinya pakai uang rakyat = They buy it using people's money

Resiko Kopong ditanggung sendiri = The risk of (kopong) must be borne alone

Kopong is empty. It is an Indonesia Military Anthusiast term for a military jet that has no weapon, because the import didn't included with weapons and other supporting gadgets.

 

[Brainsucker]

Nobody can confirm that?

 

[Indos]

Nobody can confirm that?

This is credible Myanmar mainstream media

Technical Problems Ground Myanmar’s JF-17 Fighter Jets Bought From China

The $25-million jets arrived with structural problems but post-coup sanctions and a lack of local expertise make it impossible to fix them, ex-Air Force pilots say.

www.irrawaddy.com

 

[Brainsucker]

This is credible Myanmar mainstream media

Technical Problems Ground Myanmar’s JF-17 Fighter Jets Bought From China

The $25-million jets arrived with structural problems but post-coup sanctions and a lack of local expertise make it impossible to fix them, ex-Air Force pilots say.

www.irrawaddy.com

So Irrawaddy.com claims that ALJ-7 AI Radar has very poor accuracy and maintain problem. How does Chinese and Pakistani posters respond this? Is ALJ-7 really inferior?

 

[Indos]

So Irrawaddy.com claims that ALJ-7 AI Radar has very poor accuracy and maintain problem. How does Chinese and Pakistani posters respond this? Is ALJ-7 really inferior?

Their source is Myanmar ex Air Force official, I cannot comment on this but the media is quite credible.

 

[Brainsucker]

Their source is Myanmar ex Air Force official, I cannot comment on this but the media is quite credible.

I think ALJ-7 is JF-17 standard Main radar, so by saying that ALJ-7 has poor accuracy and maintain problem, then they claim that Pakistani's JF-17 is an inferior Jet Fighter. So maybe some Pakistani posters can answer this question.

 

[lcloo]

Read the anti-government article in detail carefully, it is a big BS.

First and foremost The Irrawady is an anti government media financed by foreigners.

Secondly, check for lies and mis-informations in the article, there are plenty of them.

 

[Brainsucker]

Read the anti-government article in detail carefully, it is a big BS.

First and foremost The Irrawady is an anti government media financed by foreigners.

Secondly, check for lies and mis-informations in the article, there are plenty of them.

Yeah.

Jointly manufactured by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aerospace Corporation of China, the JF-17 was initially designed to balance India’s Air Force. They are equipped with Western avionics and powered by the Russian Klimov RD 93 aeroengine, and set up on a China-made airframe, according to analysts. They can be armed with air-to-air mid-range guided missiles, 80-mm and 240-mm rockets, and 500-lb bombs.

As the avionics and electronics installed in JF-17s are made with parts from Western countries, the Myanmar military purchased the fighter jets through middlemen between 2015 and 2020. Following the coup, the European Union imposed sanctions against the Myanmar military and arms brokers, and the Air Force now has no spare parts for the JF-17s, according to analysts and former pilots.

Thanks. This is really a deliberated lies or stupidly miss informed.

 

[HRK]

So Irrawaddy.com claims that ALJ-7 AI Radar has very poor accuracy and maintain problem. How does Chinese and Pakistani posters respond this? Is ALJ-7 really inferior?

reliability of the article is such low, it is claiming that

- Mayanmar use KLJ-7A which is an AESA radar and used only for blk-III configuration,

- Myanmar bought blk-II jet with configuration named "RUBY" which is tailored for Mayanmar only,

- One of the officially known fact is that RUBY jets of Mayanmar does not use KLJ series of radar (not even plus doppler KLJ-7 V2) but some Israeli radar made under licence in China.

so in the end it's totally fake propaganda.

 

[tarpitz]

A pair of newly inducted Su-30SME from Myanmar Air Force.