Myanmar Defence Forum

[MINN]

Any pics of Myanmar's new radars that were acquired recently like YLC-2V & Vostok radar

we won't see those until there an military parade.

 

[MINN]

Guys, I heard that an Antonov 124 landed in Mandalay international recently could it be the Su 30s.

 

[MINN]

Myanmar Army EE 9 and BTR 3U test driving in Mon State.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Vostok is already operational for years , they won't show it in a parade.

 

[MINN]

I was looking through the old news clips and I realized that back in late 2019 the commander in chief went to Russia and had a demonstration of armored vehicles. and at that demonstration, there were 3 types a
BRDM 2, BTR82, and an Armored recovery vehicle. out of the three, the BRDM arrived in Myanmar earlier this year. so does that mean we are also getting the BTR82 and armored recovery vehicle for it?
in this video includes the part of the trip with the demonstration at 09:56.

 

[Song Hong]

I want to ask the Myanmese opinion about Myitsone dam. You guys agree or not agree?

 

[tarpitz]

I want to ask the Myanmese opinion about Myitsone dam. You guys agree or not agree?

Partially agree.
We need a mega dam like Myitsone but not in the place where the mighty river Ayerwaddy originated.

 

[tarpitz]

Myanmar Army in Caucasus 2020 military exercise.

 

[MINN]

Myanmar Army in Caucasus 2020 military exercise.
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why are we not carrying guns?

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Jun 24, 2020

Speaking of Aung San Suu Kyi, is it true that North Korea still keeps military ties with Burma? DPRK is known to sell ballistic missiles to Burma.

North Korea Defence Forum

According to recent satellite imagery taken on 5th April 2020, North Korea has conducted the first solid-propellant [Pukguksong-4] intercontinental ballistic missile cold-launch test in which the missile is expelled by gas and the rocket engine ignited after the missile clears the tube. First...

defence.pk

Jul 11, 2020

Is it true?

North Korea Defence Forum

According to recent satellite imagery taken on 5th April 2020, North Korea has conducted the first solid-propellant [Pukguksong-4] intercontinental ballistic missile cold-launch test in which the missile is expelled by gas and the rocket engine ignited after the missile clears the tube. First...

defence.pk

After 2 months of analysis, here the clarification:

Before any cooperation in the field of ballistic missile technologies could be conceived, this should be a win-win situation for both parties.

The gains should exceed several folds the risk exposure, such as more diplomatic rows and international sanctions. Politically, any leaders would have to survive with an increased loyalty from his fellow ministers, politicians from all sides, opposition included, and increased popular support from the masses.

1. Therefore what could Burma offer to the DPRK that is worth more than hard currency?

2. What could the DPRK offer the Tatmadaw in exchange?

1. The Tatmadaw's Godsend Solid Rocket Tech

Sep 24, 2019

Not sure how much we can reverse engineer out of a scrap but falling into our land shouldn’t have happened in the first place.

Myanmar Defence Forum

No. I don't use Wikipedia for defense research. Myanmar buying SY400 was mentioned in many articles and journals. Not just one article. Sorry, I meant the part you said it was not in the current inventory and I was saying the inventory is not accurate. So it might be or might not be already bought.

defence.pk

From time to time, China is launching solid propellant rocket to a Sun Synchronous Orbit (SSO) from Jiuquan Space Launch Center, causing spent rocket stage to fall over Burmese territory.

We already speculated last year on 23rd September 2019, that fallen CZ-11 rocket stage were being carried away probably to some military research institute for reverse engineering purpose.

https://archive.is/dXg2k/a9a9f3a9623ff8436a328f527e131d4605923cf8.jpg ; https://archive.is/dXg2k/76f7214767f0f811fecc293b1ae6e6fed13dee22/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20190923060227/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE7Nr0VWsAA_-p5.jpg
▲ 1. CZ-11 rocket stage retrieved.

https://archive.fo/HLfus/0fbc139b21aa808273851303447291f43b462445.jpg ; https://archive.fo/HLfus/c74a9294ecc4b4d46d8347c52a647726cbb4f1c4/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20190923060317/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE7Nr0nXoAA_RDC.jpg
▲ 2. Part of the CZ-11 rocket stage.

It is obvious that such advanced technologies could not be of immediate use for a first timer such as Burma.

It is the ultimate level in solid propellant engines.

But for North Korea, it is exactly the final stage in the development of its nuclear deterrence: a last 2 meters diameter solid propellant ICBM with 10'000 km range able to carry 10 MIRVs warheads.

No wonder, as the CZ-11 SLV is derived from the Chinese DF-41 ICBM, to date the most powerful in the PLA's inventory.

You can bet that the DPRK would take the highest risks and pay the highest price to have one of this. Previously, the 80 tons-force Peaktusan-1 engine used in the liquid propellant Hwasong-15 ICBM was said to be the fruition of 20 years of reverse engineering, based on a single retrieved Russian Glushko RD-250 engine.

2. The DPRK Space Expertise

For the beginner that the Tatmadaw is in the field of space rocket, any assistance might be useful.

We know that computer software for the guidance of ballistic missiles were sold to other “international entities”:

10:06PM December 17, 2017

The AFP allege the man was generating income for Pyongyang by brokering the sale of computer software for the guidance of ballistic missiles to other “international entities”.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

And that sale of missiles and missile technology have been reported:

Australian man accused of trying to sell North Korean missiles overseas refused bail

Fri 18 Oct 2019 09.12 BST

Choi Han Chan, 60, is the first person ever charged under Australia’s Weapons of Mass Destruction (Prevention of Proliferation) Act.

He has been charged with offences under the Charter of the United Nations Act and the Autonomous Sanctions Act, as well as the Weapons of Mass Destruction Act. The maximum penalty for these offences is 10 years’ imprisonment.


Choi described himself as North Korea’s “international commerce” liaison, working on behalf of the highest echelons of the DPRK government.

“I am a recognised strategist that has favour with Kim Jong Un,” he wrote.

The police allegations state that in late 2017 Choi brokered the sale of missiles and missile technology with a Taiwanese contact. They also state that he negotiated to send experts to the contact to help operate the technology. But the alleged deal was disrupted by his arrest.

Australian man accused of trying to sell North Korean missiles overseas refused bail

Sydney man Choi Han Chan allegedly used blackmarket contacts to broker deals in coal and iron, but also in weapons technology

www.theguardian.com

From the image released of the first Burmese Space Rocket, similarities in the design could indicate some sort of North Korean assistance.

The Burmese separation and acceleration solid propellant rockets, found at the level of the interstage skirt and top end of the first stage present some analogies with that of the Unha-3 space launcher:

https://archive.is/DAjJr/3df72460c766095544938e7213c7c43ab36aaa6d.jpg ; https://archive.is/DAjJr/eb9dd99cfbb62e9fa88b85f250abb25a6ccdd3a4/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20200922221347/https://i.imgur.com/wo7ZVcI.jpg
▲ 3. From left to Right: Unha-3's separation rockets without covers, Unha-3 separation rockets with cover, Burma's wind tunnel model space rocket image from video, Burma's space rocket CGI model.

3. The Manned Space Race

The final question is can the Tatmadaw send a manned spacecraft into a suborbital spaceflight before India, the most dangerous contender for the 5th place as a manned spacefaring nation?

That means before 2025, and by using only the first Burmese space launcher.

Below the solution, provided the first stage can develop a thrust of more than 50 ton-force, and by placing a single seater spacecraft on top of it, similar in configuration to the Indian Test Vehicle Mission (TV):

https://archive.vn/ZMV2m/1722c37be6c724c110e54b0896703914ad1ca5f3.jpg ; https://archive.vn/ZMV2m/4abcb58c99e70089537bbf2561318ccc3a165677/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20200922221456/https://i.imgur.com/2rK6Xri.jpg
▲ 4. Burma's first suborbital manned space flight by placing a single seater spacecraft on top of it's first space launcher, similar in configuration to the Indian Test Vehicle Mission (TV).

With reverse engineered 75 ton-force engine from fallen Chinese rocket stages and with foreign technical assistance, this should be doable!

Congratulations again bro! As this winning strategy can only be crowned with success!

Welcome in the Elite Club of Manned Spacefaring Powers!

May Buddha's Compassion go with you!

 

[MINN]

80 THOUSAND! Russia, China, Pakistan, Myanmar & Belarus Launch Massive 'Caucasus 2020' Exercises

 

[IblinI]

No news of SY400?

 

[MINN]

Myanmar Military Deploy in Arakan State 2020

 

[Devilduck]

Myanmar Military Deploy in Arakan State 2020

Hey bro I dont think we use those Hueys anymore.

 

[polanski]

Embarrassing Display: Russian Su-35 shot down a Su-30SM2: https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/09/26/embarrasing-display-russian-su-35-shot-down-a-su-30sm2/