Myanmar army chief says Rohingya Muslims 'not natives,' numbers fleeing exaggerated
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You have two neighbors - one is India and one is Myanmar. It is a good idea to maintain a working relationship with both.
Yup, nothing wrong with that. Many refugees have been granted Pakistani nationality and many Afghans also hold dual nationality. Afghans are actually everywhere in Pakistan, especially in the transport industry.
My personal preference is to both Afghanistan and Pakistan to merge into one nation.
Afghanistan Zindabad
Pakistan Pa'indabad
That depends how many East Pakistanis are patriots vs traitors.
Save the bravado about your fighting prowess. When things were on the line in 1971 you folded.
Pakistani army has been fighting a bunch of tribals for 10+ years.
The Pakistan that fought and dismantled the mighty Soviet Empire into 14 pieces in the 1980s?
The same Pakistan that has defied an enemy 4 times bigger than itself since 1989 and continues to kill thousands of enemy soldiers?
This isn't the Pakistan of 1971 which had over half of population of traitors.
This is the Pakistan of 2017, the only Islamic Nuclear Power with 50,000 troops deployed all over the Middle East.
Oh Wise One, how come the Bangladesh of 2017 is pleading to Pakistan for help in regards to Rohingya after pulling out of the SAARC Summit in Pakistan not so long ago?
Pakistan dismantling the Soviet empire ?? Soviets fell apart because of their inferior economic system.
The Afghans did most if not all the fighting
As far as Pakistani troops in the Middle East they are security guards for the royals. If real fighting arises like in 1990 the Gulf Royals call the real armies to do the fighting.
All you have done is to mire yourself in stagnation while India marches ahead
This is one thing you got correct. I am impressed. The Bengalis and Awami League were not the traitors.
Is it any different from Pakistan licking Uncle Sam's feet ?
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Hahaha.. Like i mentioned in my first ever post regarding this conflict months ago, The truth eventually comes out after the dust of massive propaganda war settles down.. Take history of civil conflicts the side with the blitzkrieg of propaganda is usually the one who has most facts to hide or lie.. Those conflicts/ Wars in Iraq, Syria, Sri Lanka, Latin America, Sierra Leone, The Balkans, Ukraine you name it and now Myanmar
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Yah, Sieg Heil NAZIsm for you...
The guy is as turd. Best ignored.
Rope around Myanmar generals are closing in, EU looks to be ready to trigger the sanction. UNSC reviewing Annan commission recommendation. Initial gold rush feeling in China also getting shot of reality. Even indian stooge regime in Bangladesh stating Myanmar repatriation noise is just farce at best. Waiting for next few moves....
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SINGAPORE-affiliated former Myanmar Cabinet member spreading FAKE NEWS.
By Dr Maung Zarni
October 16, 2017
Visiting Fellow at Singapore's Institute of South East Asian Studies & Ex-Cabinet Member from Thein Sein Gov, spread fakes news about Rohingyas, possibly coordinating with Irrawaddy Burmese Editors.
Ye Htut, ex-Colonel and a son of the late Myanmar Police Chief, is caught spreading Fake News, which typically frames Rohingyas as "terrorist" issue.
Ye Htut's Burmese language caption reads:
"In Bangladesh the (Muslim) fundamentalists and extremists held demonstrations demanding that Rohingyas be armed.
Now the (Bangladesh) border guards unit at a refugee camp lost their weapons to the looters."
This is based on Irrawaddy Burmese Language News (see the two additional JPEG along with the first item by Ye Htut).
Irrawaddy has emerged as a major platform for spreading genocidal racism and hatred against the Rohingyas.
Its editors - Aung Zaw, Kyaw Zwa Moe, and Ye Ni - have been mis-characterizing, Rohingyas as an Islamic threat to Burma's "national security" based on dubious intelligence sources.
Irrawaddy's stance is influenced by both their anti-Rohingya racism and Bertil Linter's anti-Rohingya racist writings in Asia Times, blowing the security concerns out of proportions.
Just yesterday a Thai-American academic named Thitanan Pongsudhirak from Chula University in Bangkok peddles the same racist lie in Singapore's mouthpiece The Straits Times.
See my scathing rebuttal to this academic whore's despicable racism, falsely accusing the wretched of my country as "terror" threat.
http://www.maungzarni.net/2017/10/zarnis-open-letter-to-thitinan.html
Framing of Rohingyas as "Islamic terrorism" has been proven non-credible by Bangladeshi senior officials including the Foreign Secretary, former US Assistant Secretary of State for Asia and Pacific Affairs Eric Schwartz and most recently in Facetime Live by Human Rights Watch Myanmar researcher.
Here is Eric Schwartz in his own words:
"... the idea that insurgency is the route of the problem in Rakhine State is nonsense.
This is not insurgency. There are parts of Burma where there are insurgent issues. This is not an insurgency-driven conflict. This is a pretext that the military has given us, by all evidence."
the idea that insurgency is the route of the problem in Rakhine State is nonsense.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/can-stop-extreme-violence-rohingya-muslims/
Myanmar: The Invention of Rohingya Extremists
Joseph Allchin, The New York Review of Books, 2 October 2017
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/10/02/myanmar-the-invention-of-rohingya-extremists/
Bangladesh foreign secretary: No sign of radicalisation among the Rohingya, 8 October 2017
http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/foreign-affairs/2017/10/08/no-sign-radicalisation-rohingya/
http://www.rohingyablogger.com/2017/10/singapore-affiliated-former-myanmar.html
Starved out of Myanmar: hunger drives thousands more Rohingya to flee
In Bangladesh, new arrivals from Myanmar said closure of food markets across Rakhine state and restrictions on aid had driven them over the border
Rohingya people arrive on the Bangladeshi side of the Naf river after crossing the border from Myanmar, in Palang Khali. Photograph: Jorge Silva/Reuters
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Monday 16 October 2017 11.57 BST Last modified on Monday 16 October 2017 13.33 BST
Hungry, destitute and scared, thousands of new Rohingya refugees crossed the border into Bangladesh from Myanmar early on Monday, fleeing violence and hunger that the United Nations has called ethnic cleansing.
The new arrivals said they were driven out by hunger because food markets in Myanmar’s western Rakhine state had been shut down and aid deliveries restricted. They also reported attacks by the military and Rakhine Buddhist mobs. Wading through waste-deep water with children strapped to their sides, the Rohingya said they had walked for days through bushes and monsoon-swollen streams from Myanmar’s Buthidaung region before reaching the border.
A seemingly never-ending line of people entered Bangladesh near the village of Palang Khali. Many were injured, with the elderly lying on makeshift stretchers, and women balancing family belongings – pots, rice sacks, clothing – on their heads.
“We couldn’t step out of the house for the last month because the military were looting people. They started firing on the village. So we escaped into another village,” said Mohammad Shoaib, 29, who was balancing his jute bags, filled with some food and aluminium pots, on a bamboo pole.
“Day by day things kept getting worse, so we started moving towards Bangladesh. Before we left, I went back near my village to see my house, and the entire village was burned down,” Shoaib said.
They walked to join an estimated 536,000 Rohingya Muslims who have fled Myanmar since 25 August, when coordinated Rohingya insurgent attacks sparked a ferocious military response, with fleeing people accusing security forces of arson, killings and rape.
Myanmar rejects accusations of ethnic cleansing and has labelled the militants from the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, who launched the initial attacks, as terrorists who have killed civilians and burned down villages.
Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya were already in Bangladesh after fleeing previous episodes of violence in Myanmar, where they have long been denied citizenship and faced restrictions on their movements and access to basic services.
Myanmar’s de facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, has pledged accountability for human rights abuses and says the country will accept back refugees who can prove they were residents of Myanmar.
The US and the EU have been considering targeted sanctions against Myanmar’s military leaders, diplomats and officials said, although they are wary of action that could destabilise the country’s transition to democracy.
EU foreign ministers were due to discuss Myanmar on Monday, and their draft joint statement said the bloc would “suspend invitations to the commander-in-chief of the Myanmar/Burma armed forces and other senior military officers”.
The powerful army chief, Min Aung Hlaing, told the US ambassador in Myanmar last week that the exodus of Rohingya, who he said were non-native “Bengalis”, was exaggerated.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ousands-more-rohingya-into-bangladesh-myanmar
By Dr Maung Zarni
October 16, 2017
Visiting Fellow at Singapore's Institute of South East Asian Studies & Ex-Cabinet Member from Thein Sein Gov, spread fakes news about Rohingyas, possibly coordinating with Irrawaddy Burmese Editors.
Ye Htut, ex-Colonel and a son of the late Myanmar Police Chief, is caught spreading Fake News, which typically frames Rohingyas as "terrorist" issue.
Ye Htut's Burmese language caption reads:
"In Bangladesh the (Muslim) fundamentalists and extremists held demonstrations demanding that Rohingyas be armed.
Now the (Bangladesh) border guards unit at a refugee camp lost their weapons to the looters."
This is based on Irrawaddy Burmese Language News (see the two additional JPEG along with the first item by Ye Htut).
Irrawaddy has emerged as a major platform for spreading genocidal racism and hatred against the Rohingyas.
Its editors - Aung Zaw, Kyaw Zwa Moe, and Ye Ni - have been mis-characterizing, Rohingyas as an Islamic threat to Burma's "national security" based on dubious intelligence sources.
Irrawaddy's stance is influenced by both their anti-Rohingya racism and Bertil Linter's anti-Rohingya racist writings in Asia Times, blowing the security concerns out of proportions.
Just yesterday a Thai-American academic named Thitanan Pongsudhirak from Chula University in Bangkok peddles the same racist lie in Singapore's mouthpiece The Straits Times.
See my scathing rebuttal to this academic whore's despicable racism, falsely accusing the wretched of my country as "terror" threat.
http://www.maungzarni.net/2017/10/zarnis-open-letter-to-thitinan.html
Framing of Rohingyas as "Islamic terrorism" has been proven non-credible by Bangladeshi senior officials including the Foreign Secretary, former US Assistant Secretary of State for Asia and Pacific Affairs Eric Schwartz and most recently in Facetime Live by Human Rights Watch Myanmar researcher.
Here is Eric Schwartz in his own words:
"... the idea that insurgency is the route of the problem in Rakhine State is nonsense.
This is not insurgency. There are parts of Burma where there are insurgent issues. This is not an insurgency-driven conflict. This is a pretext that the military has given us, by all evidence."
the idea that insurgency is the route of the problem in Rakhine State is nonsense.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/can-stop-extreme-violence-rohingya-muslims/
Myanmar: The Invention of Rohingya Extremists
Joseph Allchin, The New York Review of Books, 2 October 2017
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/10/02/myanmar-the-invention-of-rohingya-extremists/
Bangladesh foreign secretary: No sign of radicalisation among the Rohingya, 8 October 2017
http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/foreign-affairs/2017/10/08/no-sign-radicalisation-rohingya/
http://www.rohingyablogger.com/2017/10/singapore-affiliated-former-myanmar.html
Starved out of Myanmar: hunger drives thousands more Rohingya to flee
In Bangladesh, new arrivals from Myanmar said closure of food markets across Rakhine state and restrictions on aid had driven them over the border
Rohingya people arrive on the Bangladeshi side of the Naf river after crossing the border from Myanmar, in Palang Khali. Photograph: Jorge Silva/Reuters
Global development is supported by
Reuters
Monday 16 October 2017 11.57 BST Last modified on Monday 16 October 2017 13.33 BST
Hungry, destitute and scared, thousands of new Rohingya refugees crossed the border into Bangladesh from Myanmar early on Monday, fleeing violence and hunger that the United Nations has called ethnic cleansing.
The new arrivals said they were driven out by hunger because food markets in Myanmar’s western Rakhine state had been shut down and aid deliveries restricted. They also reported attacks by the military and Rakhine Buddhist mobs. Wading through waste-deep water with children strapped to their sides, the Rohingya said they had walked for days through bushes and monsoon-swollen streams from Myanmar’s Buthidaung region before reaching the border.
A seemingly never-ending line of people entered Bangladesh near the village of Palang Khali. Many were injured, with the elderly lying on makeshift stretchers, and women balancing family belongings – pots, rice sacks, clothing – on their heads.
“We couldn’t step out of the house for the last month because the military were looting people. They started firing on the village. So we escaped into another village,” said Mohammad Shoaib, 29, who was balancing his jute bags, filled with some food and aluminium pots, on a bamboo pole.
“Day by day things kept getting worse, so we started moving towards Bangladesh. Before we left, I went back near my village to see my house, and the entire village was burned down,” Shoaib said.
They walked to join an estimated 536,000 Rohingya Muslims who have fled Myanmar since 25 August, when coordinated Rohingya insurgent attacks sparked a ferocious military response, with fleeing people accusing security forces of arson, killings and rape.
Myanmar rejects accusations of ethnic cleansing and has labelled the militants from the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, who launched the initial attacks, as terrorists who have killed civilians and burned down villages.
Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya were already in Bangladesh after fleeing previous episodes of violence in Myanmar, where they have long been denied citizenship and faced restrictions on their movements and access to basic services.
Myanmar’s de facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, has pledged accountability for human rights abuses and says the country will accept back refugees who can prove they were residents of Myanmar.
The US and the EU have been considering targeted sanctions against Myanmar’s military leaders, diplomats and officials said, although they are wary of action that could destabilise the country’s transition to democracy.
EU foreign ministers were due to discuss Myanmar on Monday, and their draft joint statement said the bloc would “suspend invitations to the commander-in-chief of the Myanmar/Burma armed forces and other senior military officers”.
The powerful army chief, Min Aung Hlaing, told the US ambassador in Myanmar last week that the exodus of Rohingya, who he said were non-native “Bengalis”, was exaggerated.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ousands-more-rohingya-into-bangladesh-myanmar
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